Chit chat -Stanage- and other stuff,

[andrewk]

Yeah no short ones there after my shape. some dont even no they exist! bit like me, until recently i didnt know you could get short ones like andrew k's in some parts of the world. very nice!! :smile:

You haven't been able to get SWB Patrols in the UK for years. Mine is LWB. Short is one thing it isn't - at a couple of inches short of 17ft, excluding the spare carrier!!!

Cheers
Andrew

 

[andrewk]

Yes, but it suffered from the familar Jap disease - expense and nothing readily available.

Compared with the Trooper I had before, there's loads of stuff available for the Patrol - though it may well be expensive, haven't checked. You can actually get lift kits. You can also get stuff like rock sliders and winch bumpers from FrogIsland4x4 - and all the other stuff they sorted for the "Long Way Down" Patrols. Though some of that was available from Calmini and others for earlier Troopers there was very little for the MKIV (post Aug98).

Cheers
Andrew

 

[Terranosaurus]

Nissan quote 8.5 inches for both, your diff pan is probably bigger and the tyres are barely any bigger than a late model T2s anyway.

Other numbers, approach, departure, ramp over. Oh and turning circle, beaten probably only by an SJ.

Would love to take you up on your offer but mine doesn't exactly qualify as standard I'm afraid, would romp up Roych Clough I'm sure as by your own admission it's easier than stanage.

 

[Guest]

Yes, but it suffered from the familar Jap disease - expense and nothing readily available.

Compared with the Trooper I had before, there's loads of stuff available for the Patrol - though it may well be expensive, haven't checked. You can actually get lift kits. You can also get stuff like rock sliders and winch bumpers from Frogsland4x4 - and all the other stuff they sorted for the "Long Way Down" Patrols. Though some of that was available from Calmini and others for earlier Troopers there was very little for the MKIV (post 98).

Cheers
Andrew

Sorry I meant the Terrano, nothing available, Patrols are not the forgotten 4x4 :roll: My patrol was just getting too old, everything that needed doing was just too much expense. Each repair was more than the value of the vehicle.

 

[BIGBADWULF]

You haven't been able to get SWB Patrols in the UK for years. Mine is LWB. Short is one thing it isn't

Cheers
Andrew

yes i know yours is LWB mate, it was my grammar, what i was saying
is that there is in some parts of europe and U.A.E a SWB
version of yours available :wink:

 

[andrewk]

the tyres are barely any bigger than a late model T2s anyway.

Oh? Depends on whether you think 2ins taller constitutes "barely any". They are 235/65 R17 on a new T2 aren't they?

Other numbers, approach, departure, ramp over.

The approach angle for the Patrol is 37deg - straight out of the brochure. The departure angle is compromised by a towbar, so the Nissan figure isn't relevant. I've no idea what the ramp over angle is - but the ground clearance half-way between front and rear wheels is about 13ins (I've measured it), which is about 4ins more than under my old Trooper (due to the bash plate under the transfer case).

The only information I've been able to find on the T2 is for the van version. It's approach angle is 32deg The passenger T2 doesn't seem to be on the Nissan UK site. . As I don't have a stock T2 to hand, I cannot measure the ground clearance half-way between the wheels. Where did you get your numbers from?

Would love to take you up on your offer but mine doesn't exactly qualify as standard I'm afraid, would romp up Roych Clough I'm sure as by your own admission it's easier than stanage.

I wasn't aware that I'd made an offer, though I did suggest that you could test the hypothesis that a stock Terrano wouldn't find Roych too easy. It wasn't my intention to get into a better/worse arguement about the Terrano and Patrol. I really don't think there's a lot of point, do you? I can understand folks on a Nissan forum slagging off Land Rovers - but to have caused a storm (in a teacup) by suggesting that I'd buy a Defender 90 if I wanted to buy a vehicle just for laning is plain silly.

As far as Stanage is concerned I would not, at the moment, take my Patrol down (or up) it. The risk of getting it wrong is too great. In any case, I just don't know the Patrol well enough yet. Roych Clough is another matter entirely. The Patrol trundled up that a couple of weeks back with no problems at all. No waffles, no road building, no spotter, no wheelspin, no stop/start - it just breezed up with not a care, on the original Bridgestone Dueler road tyres.

I have no real idea how a stock Terrano would do but my stock Trooper didn't like going down Roych too much, so I would be a tad apprehensive - maybe other T2 owners might be able to comment if they've driven it.

Cheers
Andrew

 

[Guest]

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I have no real idea how a stock Terrano would do but my stock Trooper didn't like going down Roych too much, so I would be a tad apprehensive - maybe other T2 owners might be able to comment if they've driven it.

As I stated in another thread on similar lines as this, I have never taken this club up or down Roych as I think it is too much for a stock TII. To ascend this route in a TII to prove a point and cause possible damage would be irressponsible. I always have one eye for potential damage to vehicles when I'm either leading or planning as most drivers have only the one vehicle.

Anyone wanting to try this and make a point is welcome to park at the bottom and take a seat with me to asses the potential before trying.

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

Well, im not getting into numbers, it makes you sound like an anorak LOL

it either gets there or it dont, a calculator aint going to help when your in the mud up to your axels :lol:

I dont have rose tinited spectacles, I was just concerned that this site appears to be turning into a land rover appreciation club, of which there ae many, but only one good Nisan 4x4 site, and would like it to stay that way!

so lets loose the green oval tinted specs and keep it Nissan!

We are now even arguing between the merits of Terrano versus patrol what a bunch of wally's, we are all on the same side!

For the record i am a bit of a Suzuki 4x4 fan and have been for a lot longer thna i have owned any other 4x4 but there are also great suzuki sites and clubs out there i if have the urge to chat about them!

AndrewK, my comeetn originaly was at you not cameraman, but wasnt intended to be rude, just pointng out a simple truth, without acctualy owning and driving one, your arguments are purely acccademic and based on opinion and numbers.

we can go on measuring this and that 'mines bigger than yours' :lol: :lol: and where will it get us? and that last bit goes for Hummingbird too :wink: :lol:

 

[Terranosaurus]

AndrewK, my comeetn originaly was at you not cameraman,

Fair enough - just seemed overly apt for Camerman too.



As you say Plank (thats twice in as many days), keep the Land Rover adoration to another site.

 

[andrewk]

I was just concerned that this site appears to be turning into a land rover appreciation club, of which there ae many, but only one good Nisan 4x4 site, and would like it to stay that way!

Agreed

For the record i am a bit of a Suzuki 4x4 fan

So am I. They have the attribute of extreme shortness, which is a bigf advantage offroad.

AndrewK, my comeetn originaly was at you not cameraman, but wasnt intended to be rude

Yep, I knew that. :smile: :smile:

Have a nice Xmas.

Cheers
Andrew

 

[Guest]

AndrewK, my comeetn originaly was at you not cameraman,

Fair enough - just seemed overly apt for Camerman too.

Why? when I've owned and off roaded more Nissans than you and many people on this site?? Methinks you are just talking direct from your rear oriface and trying to stir up trouble.

so lets loose the green oval tinted specs and keep it Nissan!

Nothing wrong in pointing out that there are other options available off road be it Suzukis or any other make like Unimogs. I happen to now be in a posistion where I can see what is available for Land rover and how it can be adapted for Nissans for off road, which is only for the good of the members on here.

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

well, AndrewK and Hummingbird, it looks like we are all in agreement, I know its Christmas, but dont get carried away, Imnot going to hold hands with you or anything :lol:

roll on the new year and we can get things back to normal with a good old argument :wink: :lol:

MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!!

 

[dinky]

This topic seems to have lost the plot. CAN A MODERATOR PLEASE LOCK IT.

Have a happy xmas.
Dinky

 

[NNMan]

This topic seems to have lost the plot. CAN A MODERATOR PLEASE LOCK IT.

Have a happy xmas.
Dinky

Agree'd, I thought I was going off topic talking about offroad in scotland as the heading is clearly 'Stanage'. It has now gone way off track!

 

[andrewk]

I happen to now be in a posistion where I can see what is available for Land rover and how it can be adapted for Nissans for off road, which is only for the good of the members on here.

Which reminds me, I'm still more than a bit concerned about not having an effective means of jacking offroad. Any chance we can have a look sometime at your hilift, the contraptions you've bought to adapt it and how it might be used to jack a Patrol?

Cheers
Andrew

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

weel far from locking it i think it has ben a usefull topic that has airred several interesting opinions, and shown we can debate things in a civilised manner.

 

[Guest]

In all this Nissan, green oval talk, we have forgotten the the real star of the show "THE BLUE OVAL" YAY.

-mex- -mex- -mex- -mex-

 

[Guest]

Which reminds me, I'm still more than a bit concerned about not having an effective means of jacking offroad. Any chance we can have a look sometime at your hilift, the contraptions you've bought to adapt it and how it might be used to jack a Patrol?

Not a problem.

In all this Nissan, green oval talk, we have forgotten the the real star of the show "THE BLUE OVAL" YAY.

Green oval :?: :?: this one :?: :?:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/theonlycameraman/Ford_Corporate_Logo_2002.jpg

Don't forget my other 4x4 is a Ford too :lol:

 

[theduck]

Nice one Mr Plank -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone- -welldone-

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

I hope you are reffering to Maverick's not the old Explorer, or you will kick things off all over again :wink: :lol: :lol: