Need recovery from Brampton :( Banshee's Turbo gone BANG

[elty001]

Whats the board for?

To block the air intake.
When an engine runs on it can get upto 8000 rpm so something flat and solid that wont get sucked into the engine is needed.

 

[solarman216]

Good advice if you have the presence of mind to use it, Rick

 

[terranosaurusdoug]

To block the air intake.
When an engine runs on it can get upto 8000 rpm so something flat and solid that wont get sucked into the engine is needed.

I see, my snorkel hurts my hand a bit at tickover, 8000rpm would probably suck the skin off my it

 

[elty001]

Good advice if you have the presence of mind to use it, Rick

Yep,think i would be running away faster than the engine:lol

 

[Banshee]

Hi Guys

Thanks for all the kind replies, we actually ended up getting back home at 4am on Saturday morning and the girlfriend is less than impressed also as we have booked the day off work today as we were still meant to be in Clacton

I've tried to start the truck since and it tried to overrun again but as I was expecting it I was quick with the 5th gear and clutch and it didn't even get chance to get to 2000rpm and I stalled it. It will sit there and tick over fine but spits oil out of the exhaust through the flexi from the front downpipe

I'm in too much trouble with the partner at the moment to be getting caught underneath the truck on the driveway until we're back at work, luckily I have her Fiesta to use next week

What's the best course of action here for me, should I be getting my turbo refurbished? Get a 2nd hand one which could be almost on it's way out too, I haven't really got the money at the moment to be investing in a brand new one :nenau

What's the drill with the Oil Catch can mod then, lets see some pics of what you guys have done

 

[Banshee]

This is what happened with a little less smoke than that but the same if not more noise!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=5zx3qKX_Pno

 

[jims-terrano]

Get your insurance changed over to the 3 litre and give yourself plenty time to fix your truck and take the pressure off. Then the mrs can have her fiesta back. Have a break from the trucks and get back on track with everything else:thumbs.

Personally I think I’d be looking at getting your turbo refurbed. As you say a second hand one could be about to give up as well.

 

[makeitfit]

Mate get your turbo refurbished. Plenty of good companies out there who do just that for not a lot of dosh really. I had mine done and went 360 bearings while I was at it. On my way to Greece at this moment but will try and find the link before we board.

 

[johnb5177]

Get your insurance changed over to the 3 litre and give yourself plenty time to fix your truck and take the pressure off

I second that Zac.....big time......take some time off the trucks.....they are only machines.....your folks are far more important......:thumb2

 

[Banshee]

Get your insurance changed over to the 3 litre and give yourself plenty time to fix your truck and take the pressure off. Then the mrs can have her fiesta back. Have a break from the trucks and get back on track with everything else:thumbs.

Personally I think I’d be looking at getting your turbo refurbed. As you say a second hand one could be about to give up as well.

I second that Zac.....big time......take some time off the trucks.....they are only machines.....your folks are far more important......:thumb2

I'm trying not to go down that route as I don't want to keep the 3 litre as it's just too good for me, I'd end up knocking it about if I came to use it day to day, it deserves a better owner.

Mate get your turbo refurbished. Plenty of good companies out there who do just that for not a lot of dosh really. I had mine done and went 360 bearings while I was at it. On my way to Greece at this moment but will try and find the link before we board.

Pete what options do I have in terms of Turbo upgrades :nenau

 

[Mr K]

Banshee give AET Turbos a call and they can go through all options with you and what you would want. They can take your turbo and rufurb to your spec.

I'm using AET for my skyline engine.

 

[solarman216]

First off Zac how do you know it is the turbo? the one I had run away here was the one that dropped the ceramic tips onto the pistons jamming the rings and oil passed the pistons at a rate enough to run on, the turbo went on to another and proved sound, Rick

 

[Banshee]

First off Zac how do you know it is the turbo? the one I had run away here was the one that dropped the ceramic tips onto the pistons jamming the rings and oil passed the pistons at a rate enough to run on, the turbo went on to another and proved sound, Rick

Thats a very good point Rick i don't know for certain that's what is the cause.

Where do you suggest I start tonight in terms of of troubleshooting? All i know is I can start it and it will idle but idles very roughly (same symptoms as fuel starvation) lots of white smoke from the exhaust. Whilst idling you can see pure black oil dripping from exhaust flexi onto the floor :O

Go anywhere near the accelerator and it tries to runnaway again and you have to dump the clutch.

Im pretty certain its not glow plugs caused it as they are Lucas metal rods. Cheapest and easiest checks first please guys.

The sheer amount of people that have said Turbo from the accounts Ive given including the AA man and 2 recovery truck guys tempts me to start there first tonight :nenau

Got MOT in a weeks time and off roading meet planned for a few weeks after too

 

[solarman216]

Dead easy to prove, simply remove the intercooler, if that stops it running wild then turbo or oil from rocker cover, if it still runs away then oil is getting into the combustion chamber some other way, Rick

 

[Banshee]

Dead easy to prove, simply remove the intercooler, if that stops it running wild then turbo or oil from rocker cover, if it still runs away then oil is getting into the combustion chamber some other way, Rick

Thanks Rick

The first time it ran away and I was towed into the safety of a side street I whipped the tool set out and took the intercooler off and I managed to pour out about 4 bottle caps full of oil. I cleaned it out as best I could at the side of the road with some of those yellow "big wipes". Havent checked it since.

Ill certainly be trying that one tonight though

 

[solarman216]

It could well be the turbo but equally it could be blow by and the catch can not being able to manage the quantity, so that would be my next check, remove the breather pipe and see what comes out, Rick

 

[terranosaurusdoug]

Banshee give AET Turbos a call and they can go through all options with you and what you would want. They can take your turbo and rufurb to your spec.

I'm using AET for my skyline engine.

They are near me, I got a quote from them to refurb my turbo. They are very very good but not bloody cheap!!

 

[makeitfit]

My turbo T28+T25 TURBO 60trim COMPRESSOR UPGRADE SET.HIGH BOOST 360 bearing. Highly polished comp housing .
This increases CFM using existing turbine.
I can't find my old emails from the turbo company I used but it is a job worth doing. Speak to those recommended above and see what they say about it

 

[Banshee]

Reminder for myself to revive the pics in here later

http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26989

 

[Banshee]

Right guys, so I've been working on the truck over the weekend.

It's not a pretty sight at the minute but after a flip out on Friday and nearly putting it up on ebay as spares and repairs, I had a word with myself and a cup of tea and set on getting to the root of the cause of my runaway.

It's not a pretty place in the engine bay at the moment

The PCV valve and oil return from the rocker cover were not gunked up at all :nenau

This is a picture of the inside of the intake pipe from the MAF side above the oil return from the PCV valve, you will notice that it's oil free.

Here's the pipe turbo end after the oil return

So pipe off the turbo and had a look inside and it had a lot of oil inside

Had to remove some heatshields and pipework for better access

Managed to get it off in the end without losing too much skin, when it was off it was evident that it was a little broken as the amount of movement in the compressor wheel was stupid!!!! I don't know how it hadn't fell out or disintegrated.

So after doing some research it seems that there are a few flavours of turbos in the Terrano across the engines and years.

My Turbo from my truck is a Garrett M54 S/R .53

The Turbo on Elty's Zexel engine from Rick was a Garrett M27 BSK1

The Turbo on my 3 litre is a Garrett M24 .53

So currently sat with a few questions and a shopping list for parts.

Anyone recommend a new turbo gasket?

Tomorrow I'll be enquiring locally into getting my turbo refurbished.