Failure to wear seatbelt

[zippy656]

I was thinking of Terrano owner

 

[solarman216]

I live in Bexhill 5 miles from Hastings drug city I think you would call it, and our bobbies are controlled from the Hastings lot, and seems to me there is no real enthusiasm in enforcing anything other than the motorist, Hastings for instance has many streets that ban the consumption of alcohol, yet all day you will see drunks consuming and police cars driving by, but park on a double yellow and a warden pops out from nowhere, there I have said my bit, Rick

 

[firebobby]

I was thinking of Terrano owner

Now you come to mention it, I think I am the only Terry owner in the village

 

[firebobby]

I live in Bexhill 5 miles from Hastings drug city I think you would call it, and our bobbies are controlled from the Hastings lot, and seems to me there is no real enthusiasm in enforcing anything other than the motorist, Hastings for instance has many streets that ban the consumption of alcohol, yet all day you will see drunks consuming and police cars driving by, but park on a double yellow and a warden pops out from nowhere, there I have said my bit, Rick

Rick, we have a pelican crossing in the village and it was nice to see a Police traffic car had stopped and was giving a driver a ticket for parking on the zigzags, (dangerous) We have a few travellers in the village and the vehicle in question was a van belonging to a traveller who normally gets away with a fair few things.
A child was hit by a car a few months back, while crossing at the pelican crossing, so I was very happy to see this idiot get his comeuppance.

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

victim less crime, not wearing belt, eh.

even in low speed accident you are more likely to suffer greater injuries without the
belt on. So you are you're own victim. You'll need more help from A&E. This all costs
us all.

Whats issue with it, been law long enough, one few thinks Jim did help fix, clunk click.

Imagine those that don't wear one are more likely to be committing other offences too,
only have to see the police camera action type progs to see people found to be drunk
too or unroadworthy.

 

[solarman216]

firebobby, please pay a visit to Hastings/Bexhill no one and I mean no one takes any notice of zigzags they are constantly being parked on as thou it is a space reserved for them and the police just drive past, I do not understand why as it is points on your licence, but maybe the fine is not enough to get them interested, Rick

 

[solarman216]

Thomas the T2 the only serious accident I have had in over a million miles of driving, had I been wearing a belt I would have lost my head, that is what the officer told me in hospital, I know nothing about it as an object came through the windscreen and KO'd me, so slumped across the steering wheel when the roof was torn off I survived, Rick

 

[solarman216]

Just as an add to this, and I am sure no figures are available to substantiate it, but how many near misses have you seen where people are trying to put their belt on once on the move, and another point is many people rely on belts, air bags, abs etc and so take risks that they would not otherwise take, food for thought, Rick

 

[briggie]

my opinion is ..... we all know its illegal to not wear a seatbelt ..... so we should be prepared for the consequences ..... whatever they may be .

 

[makeitfit]

I really can't be arsed to wright all the failings I've encountered with plod in non motoring events
BUT in all things motoring they've been nothing but an arse as is the law they uphold , mostly
"The motorist" is simply a cash cow, we're the wrong end of the UK stealth tax attack. Twats with drugs and bad dogs get fined but pay sod all. We have to pay or else the old licence gets fooked , simples :doh
I live in a village and have never seen a police man van or car hanging around for me to have a "chat" :lol
Mind you some poor soul daring to eat a twix while driving Pay the fooking fine you choco abuser "

 

[clivvy]

this is my point, I think generally this is the problem with the police. I am a bit harsh with them, because where I live AND the surrounding area (most of West Yorkshire) the Police are not approachable, nice or helpful - don't get me wrong, if one did turn up I'd be happy to talk to them, but you know, every time I have spoken to a police person its all doom and gloom and "nothing we can do" and "we are too busy" and "think yourself lucky" and " don't do anything or we will arrest you " bull crap.

I think THATS the general problem in many areas. I would LOVE to see the police enforcing some actual laws that make a difference, but no, what I keep reading in the paper is how the police fail the community and the excuse is always the same - red tape, paper work blah blah.

the government really needs to get its head out of its arse and let the police do what they want to do and fight actual real crime.

I understand road Traffic is a separate "department", but the law is the law, and I hate to see the police picking and choosing their "jobs". I understand its a hard job, but how can I support something so big, when it isn't supporting me? The last time I rang the police to help, I got no help.

 

[AD Ent]

victim less crime, not wearing belt, eh.

So you are you're own victim. You'll need more help from A&E. This all costs
us all.

Drunk and dissorderly is a crime. Urinating in the street is a crime. Have a look around a town near you tonight and tomorrow night and see how many 'law breaker's' get on the spot fines.... now have a look at how many ambulances, paramedics, doctors, nurses, police officers are needed. Services are overstretched at A&E.
You wont see any police officers sat outside pubs and clubs waiting to dish out fines for being drunk and dissorderly. More than likely assist them on their way to the next bar.

I dont have an issue with seat belts just the way its policed in relation to other law breaking.

 

[solarman216]

A while ago I and my family were travelling to Gatwick for a holiday, on the way the car in front of us in the early hours and some 100 mtrs away suddenly went haywire and ended up on the opposite side of a single carriageway and the engine bay burst into flames, we stopped on our side of the road hazards on and with a fire extinguisher rushed to help having told my daughter to ring 999 without opening the bonnet sprayed the powder best I could into the engine bay, fire extinguished, turns out he had run into the rear tyre of a slow moving tractor with poor lighting which explained the front of his motor going sky wards headlights and all, now we have a poorly lit tractor on the carriageway and a disabled motor not quite off the opposite road, we have torches and are slowing what little traffic there was safely, no problems at all (bearing in mind I used to be a heavy vehicle recovery operator so well used to this type of situation) along comes Mr plod who immediately reprimands me and and my son in law for what we are doing and instructs us to go back to our vehicle and stay there till he decides to come and interview us, yea right, I found the offended driver and gave him our details, got in our motor and continued our journey, we were not going to miss our plane, tractor driver was done by the way and rightly too, Rick

 

[makeitfit]

Drunk and dissorderly is a crime. Urinating in the street is a crime. Have a look around a town near you tonight and tomorrow night and see how many 'law breaker's' get on the spot fines.... now have a look at how many ambulances, paramedics, doctors, nurses, police officers are needed. Services are overstretched at A&E.
You wont see any police officers sat outside pubs and clubs waiting to dish out fines for being drunk and dissorderly. More than likely assist them on their way to the next bar.

I dont have an issue with seat belts just the way its policed in relation to other law breaking.

Where's the like button ?

 

[solarman216]

compare this to the 70's when we had a lorry with sheet steel shed its load on a main road on a twisty hill 20 tons of steel spread across the road and I am the recovery motor driver with a mate, all of the police guys present helped pick this stuff up a sheet at a time and load it onto another truck, the road A21 was shut completely till this was cleared, it was a blistering hot day and one of the officers went off and came back with 5 gallons of orange juice, but forgot cups so we removed the round lenses from the truck and trailer and drank from those, happy days, Rick

 

[AD Ent]

compare this to the 70's when we had a lorry with sheet steel shed its load on a main road on a twisty hill 20 tons of steel spread across the road and I am the recovery motor driver with a mate, all of the police guys present helped pick this stuff up a sheet at a time and load it onto another truck, the road A21 was shut completely till this was cleared, it was a blistering hot day and one of the officers went off and came back with 5 gallons of orange juice, but forgot cups so we removed the round lenses from the truck and trailer and drank from those, happy days, Rick

Love it. What a great anecdote

 

[macabethiel]

Seat Belts

When I was a young Police Constable in 1971 driving a Panda Car in North Derbyshire I would attend vehicle accidents as they were then called on a regular basis.

Most were minor shunts that today would not qualify for Police attendance. I have vivid memories of the amount of blood there used to be when the front seat occupants had facial cuts from a shattered toughened windscreen as laminated ones were not the norm.

Once cleaned up at A&E the injuries were relatively superficial but for women in particular the scars were often carried for life. I left the service in 1973 re-joining in 1989 so I missed the introduction of compulsory seat belt 1983 ?

The screaming of women with blood all over their faces became a thing of dread for me when attending accidents during my first two years of service.

When I went back to Policing in 1988 even serious accidents were relatively blood and screaming free.

 

[melissachels]

Village, you say?

well, I don't know if good policing is selective, but round here we don't see anything you mention, ever. Huddersfield, Manchester, Birstall even Leeds, all the same, all towns or cities, so maybe villages get more support.

I'd say they do, used to live in the city & wasn't quite as quick as it it is in the village we have regular patrols up & round especially on fri/sat nights or neilston show week lol
think this is one of the few place where neds/chavs own wellies :lol:lol

 

[melissachels]

I really can't be arsed to wright all the failings I've encountered with plod in non motoring events
BUT in all things motoring they've been nothing but an arse as is the law they uphold , mostly
"The motorist" is simply a cash cow, we're the wrong end of the UK stealth tax attack. Twats with drugs and bad dogs get fined but pay sod all. We have to pay or else the old licence gets fooked , simples :doh
I live in a village and have never seen a police man van or car hanging around for me to have a "chat" :lol
Mind you some poor soul daring to eat a twix while driving Pay the fooking fine you choco abuser "

Not true it'll get whipped out your benefits like it or not, I personally phone up the PF & arranged to pay my fine off of my benefits.

as for police being twats only time i've been fined/arrested I've done something wrong so its my own fault really. Tho the arrest technically wasn't as I had no idea I was to go to court as I'd moved & ended up with a warrant out for me (unbeknownst to me) hence why they now have designated citation officers, cos too much police time was being taken up chasing warrants when the folk had no idea they were even to be at court, not saying that folk don't miss court appearances anyhow, I've never been man handled or brutalized but i don't give them grief, but yet my mates man was clotheslined off his bike yesterday on his way to work cos thats the route & times that junkies like to do they're drug runs but that was my experiences.

 

[jims-terrano]

I think one of the problems is the police are far out numbered by the population. The governments cuts have also hit numbers, resources and morale.
What dealings I've had with the police they've generally being pretty fair and pleasant people. I think they become hardened through their training and also the scum they have to deal with on a day to day basis.
I was involved in an accident earlier this year and happened almost in front of a couple of PCSO's on the beat. They couldn't of been more helpful to all of us involved.