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macabethiel said:
I always find it a bit rich when people generalise and slag off the Police often based on some second hand evidence or due to a personal experience often not representative of the norm and probably instigated by a bad attitude from themselves when questioned by Police.

Okay as a retired plod I am bound to try to defend what might be a tad indefensible but I found that those who bitch about a Police experience are the first to seek help when they come up against a thug and loose or are burgled or someone in their family is sexually assaulted.

Part of the problem in my opinion is many youngsters get no discipline at home or at school and the first time they encounter someone in authority is when they are arrested or reported for a minor offence. They then scream Police State or Police Violence and often make spurious complaints.....get a life and do some growing up I say.
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I'll stick my six penneth in here then :question
Schools simply aren't allowed to "discipline" in any way, and the ruddy kids know that.
Conversely when teachers at my wife's school rang plod to report drug dealers carrying out their trade outside the school gates , they were more than lethargic regarding any "Police presence" :eek: Needless to say , no show :doh
Our sailing club's RIB was slashed by some knife wielding yob for no apparent reason one night. Plod were called and low and behold, we were told they were busy right now but would send someone out "soon" :augie
Two days later we asked what was going on and were told, it's too late now mate the finger prints will have worn off :confused:
Yet when I'm minding my own business on my way to work, I'm obliged to pull over and have my tank dipped ffs :hmh In that layby there were 4 police cars and god knows how many plod.
I feel that drivers are easy pickings for fines and clean up statistics ( not defending seat belt avoiders or speeders) . Bikecyclists don't get booked for going through red lights or speeding etc
I'll get off me box now :surrender
 
AD Ent said:
Yes you should have waved :lol
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i did not see them pull anybody and i would not know your car. i was in a zafira so if i had waved it would just hurt yor head trying to work out who it was
 
I only went to Screwfix for a self cutting tap £4.99 :rolleyes:

Larson:thumb2
 
Well for my 5 pennorth (have not got the same eloquence of makeitfit), here in sunny Sussex we experience much the same, have a break in, you will be lucky to get a response, guy falls through shop window (recent event) police every where, there is a particular roundabout here that is approached by two lanes, nearside for left and straight on, offside for right turn, the number of drivers that overtake the nearside queue and then cut in to go straight on is high but Mr plot sat in his motor able to see this does nothing, but not wear a belt and he is on you instantly, I used to respect the police very highly, not any longer, they regard the motorist as cash cows, and I am 66, Rick
 
macabethiel said:
I always find it a bit rich when people generalise and slag off the Police often based on some second hand evidence or due to a personal experience often not representative of the norm and probably instigated by a bad attitude from themselves when questioned by Police.

Okay as a retired plod I am bound to try to defend what might be a tad indefensible but I found that those who bitch about a Police experience are the first to seek help when they come up against a thug and loose or are burgled or someone in their family is sexually assaulted.

Part of the problem in my opinion is many youngsters get no discipline at home or at school and the first time they encounter someone in authority is when they are arrested or reported for a minor offence. They then scream Police State or Police Violence and often make spurious complaints.....get a life and do some growing up I say.
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Couldn't agree more. :clap
 
At the end of the day we all know it's been the law for years to wear seatbelts, if we choose to risk not wearing one then we must accept the consequence and move on which sounds to be happening. Personally I wouldn't drive without one.
I understand that some police may come across as pratts and indeed I think there will be some that are. They will get used to dealing with knobs and tar everyone with the same brush. I think it's better to treat them as humans and eat humble pie if stopped for some reason. A bobby is more likely to give you a telling off for a minor speeding than a camera that is a machine such as a camera that simply sees speeding or not and nothing between.

As for teenagers, well I volunteer for an organisation for teens and have to say that I see the other side and the really good news is that not all teenagers are a waste of space in fact most are well rounded members of our society. I'm not naming the organisation as there are other organisations who give teens the same opportunities. Long may these organisations last. The unruly are the minority it just doesn't seem that way.
 
jims-terrano said:
At the end of the day we all know it's been the law for years to wear seatbelts, if we choose to risk not wearing one then we must accept the consequence and move on which sounds to be happening. Personally I wouldn't drive without one.
I understand that some police may come across as pratts and indeed I think there will be some that are. They will get used to dealing with knobs and tar everyone with the same brush. I think it's better to treat them as humans and eat humble pie if stopped for some reason. A bobby is more likely to give you a telling off for a minor speeding than a camera that is a machine such as a camera that simply sees speeding or not and nothing between.

As for teenagers, well I volunteer for an organisation for teens and have to say that I see the other side and the really good news is that not all teenagers are a waste of space in fact most are well rounded members of our society. I'm not naming the organisation as there are other organisations who give teens the same opportunities. Long may these organisations last. The unruly are the minority it just doesn't seem that way.
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Wot he said! I also volunteer for an organisation that gives kids something different to do and by and large most kids are great kids, although we also see the degradation of home discipline, but we have various ways to encourage the little 'darlings'.

I also agree that Mr Plod will be like any organisation with 100's of employees, there will always be a few who are far from useful and likewise, only a few who are truly excellent in their job. Sadly they are shoved about by politicians (elected and just upper damagement that live by their meeting room point scoring) so that they have to concentrate on milking motorists and ignore crimes like break ins and vandalism.

We need to start from the top, old Mr Fawkes wasn't such a bad chap was he?? :D
 
some really interesting points made here. I have to say, im feeling increasingly at risk with the police, despite being very law abiding. I feel very much that the motorist is a very easy target and if we saw the same sort of patrols but on the streets - stopping burglars and arresting them there or giving them an on the spot fine, people would feel much differently about the police in general. BUT, this isn't the case, is it?

Everyone I speak to who has an experience with a none-motoring policeperson its a bad one. As in, the police do nothing. Everyone I speak to who has an experience with the motoring police, they have been done, fined, told off you name it and the police have pulled all the stops to ensure this.

I don't know about you lot, but I cant remember the last time I saw a police person walking the streets actually dealing with crime. I used to see police walking around in the safe areas, and I have NEVER seen them in the troublesome areas. This is bound to affect peoples perceptions - we simply do not SEE or HEAR the police protecting the community, we only see and hear the police either not doing anything, or seemingly working against us.

bahhh!!!

I just think things like the seatbelt incident are really low down on the list of priorities. The chap cutting in lane over a roundabout - he should be the one getting pulled over. the dick head chav boy racing up and down the street, get him.

On my way to work today, I saw three new Audis form the Audi garage speeding down the road, in line, WEAVING and SWIRVING - I don't care, I beeped at them and flashed my lights because im sick of seeing this bullshit behaviour ALL the time and never a policeman around doing something about it.

Im sick of seeing little old ladies, mums, and decent people at the side of the road getting a ticket while pimped up BMWs speed past tailgating. I feel very much that the police target the easy ones, and avoid the hard ones.

there is way too much bullshit with the police, and I don't feel that they are working for us, to protect us, I feel they are working against us and the government seriously need to sort this out. I find the police very un approachable, just asking them a question makes you feel like youre about to be arrested for something and this isn't a good environment to be in.
 
Well Clivvy I have to disagree, with you, I was burgled and the response was very fast...with in 10 mins, there were 2 patrol cars at my address, we had constant phone calls, keeping us informed and they actually caught the git who broke in...good policing

There is a mobile police station parked in village car park right now, so people can go in for a chat and advise.
We have a Police van parked up a couple of times a week and the Police officers do walk around the village on these nights.

I will often call the police and inform them of wrong doings..at home and while out and about and most times I will get a call back to say they found something or other.

So I think that most Police officers do a bloody good job, as others have said, you will get a few bad apples.
I would not want to do their job, but am bloody glad they do it :)
 
Village, you say?

well, I don't know if good policing is selective, but round here we don't see anything you mention, ever. Huddersfield, Manchester, Birstall even Leeds, all the same, all towns or cities, so maybe villages get more support.
 
I tend to side with clivvy, but I guess it will depend a lot on the area you live and the top guy in charge, just like a restaurant change of management and what was a good place can go down hill fast, and vice a versa, Rick
 
When you watch these Police TV shows, is it any wonder that some coppers are like they are though, being spat at and punched and kicked by complete arseholes.
Like I said, I wouldn't want to do their job, but am glad they do
 
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