Winch advice please

[solarman216]

winches? its all about how you use them, straight pull one vehicle against another limited to the max pull of the winch and the friction on the ground of the winch vehicle, I have used a 6 ton winch on a 12 ton 6 wheel truck to pull a 43 ton 8 wheel mobile crane out of thick mud up to his axles, but I had 3 ground anchors with sheave blocks which gave me 6 times the winch power plus I had a 6 ton drot dozer pushing his behind it came out but was very slow you have to overcome the mud suction, Rick

 

[Adz]

winches? its all about how you use them, straight pull one vehicle against another limited to the max pull of the winch and the friction on the ground of the winch vehicle, I have used a 6 ton winch on a 12 ton 6 wheel truck to pull a 43 ton 8 wheel mobile crane out of thick mud up to his axles, but I had 3 ground anchors with sheave blocks which gave me 6 times the winch power plus I had a 6 ton drot dozer pushing his behind it came out but was very slow you have to overcome the mud suction, Rick

:thumbs :clap :thumbs

 

[Adz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SkK6OSYxEKI#t=11s

The only 1 i could find with a jeep :augie & a 2000lb winch :thumbs

 

[jace]

one of the lads was trying to flog me his warn 9.5xp winch he said hed took the steel cable of and put some fancy nylon type rope on reckoned it was better than steel thats on mine, wouldnt that stretch first rather than pull or does the bungie action help pull u out lol

 

[Adz]

one of the lads was trying to flog me his warn 9.5xp winch he said hed took the steel cable of and put some fancy nylon type rope on reckoned it was better than steel thats on mine, wouldnt that stretch first rather than pull or does the bungie action help pull u out lol

No its synthetic rope & it is better in the sense that if it snaps it will just drop where as a cable will whip :thumbs

Then its just down to personal preference & use :thumbs

 

[Deleted account DD]

it is better in the sense that if it snaps it will just drop

serious question....................

are you absolutely certain about that ? Ive not seen a 100% synthetic rope snap but I have seen a "rope" rope go from a block and tackle (if you know what I mean) and ...............

Surely it comes down to the elasticity etc of the rope in question :nenau

 

[Adz]

serious question....................

are you absolutely certain about that ? Ive not seen a 100% synthetic rope snap but I have seen a "rope" rope go from a block and tackle (if you know what I mean) and ...............

Surely it comes down to the elasticity etc of the rope in question :nenau

Yeah positive but i'll go research :thumbs

 

[Adz]

http://www.ehow.com/about_5962551_synthetic-vs_-steel-winch-cable.html

 

[briggie]

if you get to the stage where a rope / chain .... whatever is going to snap ..... you are doing something wrong , but then i know nuffin

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

i think that even if a rope does whip, it does less damage!

but, there is less resistance in coiling and recoiling rope,

it doesn't corrode

it weighs less

it doesn't fray, so it doesn't cut your hands - stray strands of cable are painfull!

there must be more reasons, but i don't know any :augie

 

[Adz]

if you get to the stage where a rope / chain .... whatever is going to snap ..... you are doing something wrong , but then i know nuffin

Its not a case of doing something wrong. Its if the cable is old or strands are broken & rope like rubber can perish :thumbs

 

[Adz]

i think that even if a rope does whip, it does less damage!

but, there is less resistance in coiling and recoiling rope,

it doesn't corrode

it weighs less

it doesn't fray, so it doesn't cut your hands - stray strands of cable are painfull!

there must be more reasons, but i don't know any :augie

:thumbs :clap :bow

 

[jace]

mmm might buy it take the rope off and flog winch on ebay see if cant get dosh back lol see what he says tonnight.be nice to gain
gain a lighter winch coz i dread to think how much weight in extras is at front never mind yrs mud an crud lol

 

[solarman216]

main problem with rope is size for size rope will be thicker than steel wire for the same breaking strain, so less winch length available, also the cable/rope should have a working strain greater than the power of the winch, and breaking strain will be greater still, might be common stuff but worth mentioning, Rick

 

[Adz]

main problem with rope is size for size rope will be thicker than steel wire for the same breaking strain, so less winch length available, also the cable/rope should have a working strain greater than the power of the winch, and breaking strain will be greater still, might be common stuff but worth mentioning, Rick

:clap :thumbs

 

[extreme-4x4]

the synthetic rope does stretch unlike cable and does give a bungee action . and gives a totally different pull with less shock damage to the winch . some of my ropes are bloody awesome for stretch and then it just pulls so gently too.

you know when you tow a car on a rope and you get that constant tugging back (cos you put some numpty in the towed car). well with these ropes it takes the shock out of it

 

[jace]

ive seen a video of some aussie nutters with bungey tow ropes recovering a navara they race of stretch rope then stop and rope pulls the stuck jeep outve mud,all i gota do now is persuade him what a favour im doing him taking it off his hands lol

 

[Deleted account DD]

http://www.ehow.com/about_5962551_synthetic-vs_-steel-winch-cable.html

That article does not say that a rope will just drop compared to a steel cable. It simply says it is less dangerous :thumb2

ALL ropes and cables will store kinetic energy, its a matter of differing degrees but i would suggest all be treat as potential whips

 

[extreme-4x4]

the biggest advantage rope has over cable on a winch is.

winding the bloody stuff back in . cable once coiled never ever goes back in
it freys kinks and gets in a hell of a mess.

rope always goes straight back on . but when you finished for the day you have to take the rope off wash it and dry before you put it away

 

[jace]

does it have a shelf life due to uv or anything like that