What Are Xtrails Like?

[macabethiel]

Also give a 7 year warranty on new motors, not many other car makers doing that, so they must be quite happy with their products.
I will seriously look at one for the next big car....not for a few years though

The 7 year warranty is not quite what it seems - lots on the internet about them only paying out if you can prove a part failure - wear and tear not covered in the later years with lots of exclusions.

That said they are pretty good.

Now don't laugh but the Ssangyong Rexton can be a cheap used buy and is a good car like drive - some of them have the Merc 5 cyl diesel engine in them.

One of our mechanics worked at the local main dealers and he reckons they have a bad press that they do not deserve. He said many can loose 4WD mode due to a few perished vacuum hoses but are easy to fix. Due to Yen / £ exchange rate they are now rather expensive new and sales are not what they were. That said the KIA is not the cheap car it once was.

 

[jims-terrano]

you could just keep putting an mot on your bus. lets face it most of its been done now and anything else should be easy to get to

I kind of half agree with ya Larson and you know how much I love the car. The sills are going to need doing again this year and I think there was an advisory on part of inner sill wasn't there last year? Daren't remove front bumper as I'll bet that end will need a dose of looking at.

Have to say apart from the clutch pedal needing flicking backup occasionally it actually drives pretty good.

Almost forgot the wings are a little moth eaten too.

We say every year that everything else is fine but the MOT station always seem to find something else to fix too and it always seems to cost another £500.

 

[jims-terrano]

Ok what about Skoda Roomster diesel? nice n practical car.

 

[rayf3262]

Ok what about Skoda Roomster diesel? nice n practical car.

Audi A4 platform,.. not too much wrong with that. Avoid the dual mass flywheel issue and go for a DSG transmission.

 

[rustic]

I was thinking of the Skoda Yeti 4x4, looks aren't everything.

Or VW tiguan next car has to do close to 50 mpg on a run, 4x4 for winter, we don't really need the high towing capacity of the Mav.

Easy and cheap to fix... I guess that really rules out both of the above.:doh

 

[firebobby]

The only problem with later metal is the road tax...£400 ish

 

[jims-terrano]

I was thinking of the Skoda Yeti 4x4, looks aren't everything.

Or VW tiguan next car has to do close to 50 mpg on a run, 4x4 for winter, we don't really need the high towing capacity of the Mav.

Easy and cheap to fix... I guess that really rules out both of the above.:doh

Terrano it is then Rustic for you :lol:lol:lol

Love both those two motors but they are just out of my price range really.

 

[jims-terrano]

Audi A4 platform,.. not too much wrong with that. Avoid the dual mass flywheel issue and go for a DSG transmission.

What's DSG and how do I know it has or hasn't got it?

 

[rustic]

What's DSG and how do I know it has or hasn't got it?

I didn't know either, I found this..


The DSG dual-clutch gearbox, available in 6-speed and 7-speed versions, is unlike a conventional automatic transmission. Two independent gearboxes are connected under load to the engine in turn, depending on the current gear, via two drive shafts. An output shaft assigned to each gearbox applies the torque to the driven wheels via the differential gear. Clutches and gearboxes are operated hydraulically by the gearbox mechatronics (a combination of mechanics and electronics). The electronic transmission control unit, sensors and hydraulic control unit form one compact unit. The control unit uses information such as engine speed, road speed, accelerator position and driving mode to select the optimum gear and to determine the ideal shift point. The control unit then implements the shift commands in a sequence of precisely co-ordinated actions. Each change takes less than four-hundredths of a second. DSG can be used manually, via the Tiptronic gearlever or the optional paddle shifts.

 

[rayf3262]

DSG combines the fuel economy of a manual transmission with the ease of an auto.
DSG transmissions are optionally fitted to just about every vehicle in the VAG range, including some of the commercial vehicles.

 

[rustic]

DSG combines the fuel economy of a manual transmission with the ease of an auto.
DSG transmissions are optionally fitted to just about every vehicle in the VAG range, including some of the commercial vehicles.

Sounds like something very expensive to repair if it goes wrong, and very expensive to diagnose what needs doing.

With injectors each costing £600 and requiring programming into the ECU by the main dealers for some modern vehicles, it does make you think where modern cars are going :doh

When will the time come that the bonnet of a car is sealed for life, and there is a little compartment you open with caps to fill with the appropriate liquid when told to do so by the onboard computer.

 

[jims-terrano]

Some of the Reno's have sealed gearboxes, they don't need topping up? :nenau:nenau:nenau

 

[firebobby]

DSG combines the fuel economy of a manual transmission with the ease of an auto.
DSG transmissions are optionally fitted to just about every vehicle in the VAG range, including some of the commercial vehicles.

I know 3 people who have VW Transporters with this box and all have had major issues...engine and box out to sort out bearing issues in the box.

They were all low mileage and still under warranty, so didn't cost the owners.

 

[Peasgood1]

I have an Xtrail.
In my couple of months ownership I have done both front wheel bearings. This is at the professional end of DIY as a press is needed, luckily I have one or I would have had to pay for it to be done. Not a fun job anyway as various bits are seized in place.

Now I cured those noises two more have appeared. One sounds like possible seized caliper or hopefully a bent splash shield (I can guess which is more likely)
The other noise is possibly damaged cam, no oil pressure or something even more horrid.

The idea of getting the car instead of a replacement Terrano was that the better fuel economy would make me more inclined to go places at the weekend.
Turns out my weekends are taken up with fixing the damned thing instead!

Don't buy one.

 

[Bedhead1157]

DSG combines the fuel economy of a manual transmission with the ease of an auto.
DSG transmissions are optionally fitted to just about every vehicle in the VAG range, including some of the commercial vehicles.

The local big taxi firm has Octavias with DSG's as their depot cars. Of the ones I've been in, most were good, but a few were jerky as hell on the change.

I know the Citygo has an autobox that is just a computer controlled clutch and manual box, those are never a good job in any make of vehicle, the clutches always come out cooked.

 

[jims-terrano]

Well we aint in a hurry to do anything at the moment, probably wait until Easter before doing much about the car. What ever the happens the Xtrail is out. I like the practical side of the Roomster and economy.

I've had my opinion confirmed that modern cars are crap without exception. The only way to run modern cars is to lease or buy brand new and dump when warranty runs out.

Still like the Terrano but trying to be realistic about it.

 

[rustic]

...I've had my opinion confirmed that modern cars are crap without exception. The only way to run modern cars is to lease or buy brand new and dump when warranty runs out...

My thoughts exactly.:thumb2
It explains why I still have my Mav:thumb2

I can't think of any modern car that I would still have or even want, in 10 years time, let alone 18...:augie

 

[jims-terrano]

I also reckon that newer Terrano's are rust buckets :doh which is a crying shame

 

[jims-terrano]

I also reckon that newer Terrano's are rust buckets :doh which is a crying shame

OH BUGGER!!!!!! I just seen a T2 with 60k on it and it's lovely :doh:doh:doh

And her in doors likes the look of it too :nenau:nenau:nenau

Got all week for somebody else to buy it as we can't go and see it until next weekend

 

[AlexD333]

I also reckon that newer Terrano's are rust buckets :doh which is a crying shame

Mines a 2004 and quite clean. Think you just need to find one thats been used in town