Usefull and essential off road kit to carry

[Guest]

The first serious mod you should all consider are strong front and rear recovery points. The mods you will find out that are essential are rarely the sexy mods that you can see, like huge tyres and lifts, whinches etc, but the mods made on the grounds of saftey.

A CB is also a very worthwhile accessory to add and fancy ones are just not needed as comms are rarely needed above 1 mile max. Very often just yards is all needed.

A second bit of kit to have is a strong recovery strop. Rated at least 5 tons or more. Don't even consider a tow rope they are far less than useless unless trebeled or more and then trebeled again and trebeled in length :wink:

Try a lorry ratchet strap with the metal ends removed, these are cheap enough :wink: strong enough and long enough. I usually carry at least 3 of them to cover everthing. Friends of mine have strops rated up to 17 tons or more. Think of the pressure to overcome moving a stuck 2 ton vehicle from mud 8O Imagine the horriffic backlash if a rope or low rated strop broke. If you have a strong stomach search U tube for vids of this :lol:

Shackles are also another usefull bit of kit. Picked up for around £3 - £4 each or more for test rated ones. I have them test rated to 7.5 tons.

I could go on with a kit list for you all, but common sense tells you things like a small spade, first aid kit etc.

Perhaps we should start a new thread with things you should carry in general??

 

[Deleted Member]

Think that would be a great idea cameraman! i carry a fire extinguisher(1kg) first aid kit,tool box,spade,Big torch.
Most of which i got of the bay,i do have a tow rope but it's only rated at 4tons,so i think it will be getting uprated! :?
My motor is also my daily run around so don't want to go overboard with stuff in the boot,still need to get the dog in...lol :lol:

 

[Guest]

I have split this thread from the Derbyshire lanes day one so it can be added too to help members decide what kit to purchase and carry.

Please feel free to add your twopennorce even if you disagree with an item.

 

[andrewk]

I have split this thread from the Derbyshire lanes day one so it can be added too to help members decide what kit to purchase and carry.

Please feel free to add your twopennorce even if you disagree with an item.

I think you split it around the same time I was tryping a reply to cosmic's post. Can you move my reply - or I'll copy it.

Cheers
Andrew

 

[Guest]

What a list!

Some of the kit carried by me:

CB
Maps
Sat Nav
pens paper
Mobile phones
Food/drink
spare warm clothes, waterproofs/windproofs
spare footware
Toolbox (not jeremy unfortunatley)
comprehensive tool kit to try and cover all eventualities.
Tie wraps
Gaffer tape
Hand wipes
Loo roll
String
WD40
Warm gloves
Work gloves
surgical gloves (keeps grease off hands if need to play under bonnet)
Towel
Bowl
Water
Gas cooker
Kettle
Brew kit and mugs
2 x 4' 38mm waffle boards
Hi lift jack
2 differant types of hi lift jack adaptor - able to lift nearly all types of 4x4
Firm jack base (piece of wood is as good)
Impact driver and sockets - for wheel nuts
Torque wrench - for wheel nuts
Compressor for air - on occasion you may have to let your tyres down to low psi for traction
3 x 5 ton rated tow strops and one bridle
"several" shackles all rated higher than the tow strops
Tarps for laying on kneeling on or temp shelter
bungees
Large elasticted luggage net pulled tight to hold everything firmly in place in back
Lump hammer
Pry bar/crowbar
Machety
2 x fire extinguser at 1 Kg each
Camera - cos I never go anywhere without it.

The list can go on as each person sees fit, I add and take away from mine to suit. Sure I've forgotten things that I just normally load without thinking.

 

[Guest]

I have split this thread from the Derbyshire lanes day one so it can be added too to help members decide what kit to purchase and carry.

Please feel free to add your twopennorce even if you disagree with an item.

I think you split it around the same time I was tryping a reply to cosmic's post. Can you move my reply - or I'll copy it.

Cheers
Andrew

You'll need to copy it, sorry

 

[Guest]

Posted on behalf of andrewk

Most of which i got of the bay,i do have a tow rope but it's only rated at 4tons,so i think it will be getting uprated! :?

Sorry to but in here, but I think we need to be a bit clearer about "ratings". I've seen 50mm single thickness tow straps on Ebay claimed to be "rated" at 4 tons (sometimes 5 tons). This is the breaking strain NOT safe working load for pulling. The safe working load for pulling is going to be about a third of that - i.e. maybe a ton and a half at best. If that is what you have, it needs to be pensioned off - or at least, reserved for towing broken down Fiestas on a tarmac road.

I've often seen it suggested that for safe offroad recovery, you need something like a 25mm diameter nylon tow rope (or equivalent strap) rated at around 12 tons and 4.75 ton SWL tested bow shackles (breaking strain around 25 - 30 tons).

Cheers
Andrew

 

[andrewk]

Think of the pressure to overcome moving a stuck 2 ton vehicle from mud

Or in my case, a stuck 3 ton vehicle!!!

I've heard it said that ideally for offroad recovery, you should have a rope/strap that has a rating for pulling of twice the dead weight of the vehicle you are recovering. So, for a Terrano, that'd be around 4 tons, which with a safety factor of 3 for pulling, means that you'd be looking at a tow rope/strap with a breaking strain no less than about 12 tons. That's quite a convenient outcome, because the commonly available 25mm dia nylon recovery ropes are rated at about that.

Cheers
Andrew

 

[jagdpanther]

Just a word of warning about strops . Most are made of polypropalene ( did i spell that right) and although they do stretch a little under load , they give no warning when they break. If useing one keep people well out of the way.
Working in the engineering industry i was lucky enough to aquire a small linked chain rated at 7.5tons . This with a couple of similar rated shackles does the job for me.
I would be interested to know what my pulling limit is with beasty.

I have come accross some who use wire strops . these kink if not used correctly and can fray,and personally i dont like them, always wear gloves when useing one of these.
better still get some adult supervision

 

[Guest]

Sorry buddy, but you should never use chain or wire (unless on a winch) if this breaks it will kill.

Straps with a balnket over, blanket drops brakage to floor .

 

[jace]

have to admit when i looked at winches etc i thought couple three tonne will do job but in reality minimum recomemnded is 9tonne and idealy 12 tonne 8O

 

[andrewk]

Re: What a list!

Some of the kit carried by me:

Wow and I thought I carried a lot. I can count 26 of those - but didn't take a means of cooking and the ancilliary stuff (just a pie, some sandwiches and cans of diet coke). I also had a combination folding spade, pair of wellies and some tree loppers. I don't have a high-lift or CB (yet), didn't bother to bring waffles or a lump hammer and don't have a machete, but apart from that ....... :smile:

Cheers
Andrew

 

[robobone]

Think that would be a great idea cameraman! i carry a fire extinguisher(1kg) first aid kit,tool box,spade,Big torch.
Most of which i got of the bay,i do have a tow rope but it's only rated at 4tons,so i think it will be getting uprated! :?
My motor is also my daily run around so don't want to go overboard with stuff in the boot,still need to get the dog in...lol :lol:

what i do is i have a hefty plastic box and put all my stuff for off road in that.

i have now included a trolly jack(as expereince taught me the last time i went out with Camerman )
i also carry 5litrres of plain water for rad or just washing the lights of when finished supprising how muddy i get :lol: :lol:

 

[Guest]

i have now included a trolly jack(as expereince taught me the last time i went out with Camerman )

Your wheel change was what prompted me to get the adaptors for lifting the vast majority of 4x4s and not just my own. (and an electric impact driver)

Its nice to be helpfull most of the the time and only costs pennies when you consider how long you keep the adaptors for and how much use they get. I can now lift my Disco, my Mav, my caravan etc etc as well as winching pushing pulling etc.

Nice to see you posting again Tony

 

[robobone]

i have now included a trolly jack(as expereince taught me the last time i went out with Camerman )

Your wheel change was what prompted me to get the adaptors for lifting the vast majority of 4x4s and not just my own. (and an electric impact driver)

Its nice to be helpfull most of the the time and only costs pennies when you consider how long you keep the adaptors for and how much use they get. I can now lift my Disco, my Mav, my caravan etc etc as well as winching pushing pulling etc.

Nice to see you posting again Tony

i am glad to of assistance prompting you to get stuff to get me out of trouble.

regards
posting things are a bit better my end so watch out "ill Be Back" :lol: :lol:

 

[KillerPete]

Who's got the kitchen sink? :lol:

 

[Guest]

Wow! thats a lot of stuff and when you read through it....sensible really.

I took a wheel brace, some cd's and my lunch.....oh and a coat!!

Preperation is everything 8O

Well I think i should start shopping and santa is diffinately going to get a list.

Advise on were to purchase the straps and recommended anchor points for towing. Thanks

 

[Terranosaurus]

Using Andys list as a base, dleting the stuff I don't carry, extras at the beginning.

2 x 4.5m 11Tonne straps
Kinetic recovery strap - dire emergencies not used it yet, don't really like em.
Plenty of rated shakles
40mm dia tow rope - for just that, towing not recovery
Normal commercial shackles for towing
Axe
Bush/bow saw
Extending loppers
Spare air filter/dizzy cap and set of plugs.
2 foot breaker bar, for stubborn wheel nuts but also general use as lever etc
Jump leads - proper thick cabled professional type
De-icer



CB
Maps
Sat Nav
pens paper
Mobile phones
Food/drink
spare warm clothes, waterproofs/windproofs
Toolbox (not jeremy unfortunatley)
comprehensive tool kit to try and cover all eventualities.
Tie wraps
Gaffer tape
Hand wipes
Loo roll
String
WD40
Work gloves
surgical gloves (keeps grease off hands if need to play under bonnet)
Water
Gas cooker
Kettle
Brew kit and mugs
Impact driver and sockets - for wheel nuts
Lump hammer
2 x fire extinguser Halon/BCF - ctually put fires out nbot like replacement AFFF
Camera


Have a hi-lift to carry as soon as I've built a mount and am ordering waffles very soon.

Theres probably more but can't remember.

A lot of it is carried in a big plastic box, the type with the interlocking lid halves.

 

[Guest]

Theres probably more but can't remember.

... and dont forget your new electric drill..... to remove tow balls last min :wink:

 

[Terranosaurus]

Theres probably more but can't remember.

... and dont forget your new electric drill..... to remove tow balls last min :wink:

It was in there - Impact driver and sockets - though I had forgotten I also have a 18v drill ad bits in there too cos they're both in the same case.