The story of our Red T2, Jiggly (Project thread)

[terranosaurusdoug]

Yeah me too, mine should be about due I reckon, should improve air flow as well to get that heat round the car for those cold winters mornings :clap

Are terrano heaters any good, mine doesn't seem that warm!

 

[Banshee]

Are terrano heaters any good, mine doesn't seem that warm!

Cabin filter will make a lot of difference to air flow, also down to what thermostat you have fitted :sly I have an 82 degree one which opens quicker :sly

 

[terranosaurusdoug]

Cabin filter will make a lot of difference to air flow, also down to what thermostat you have fitted :sly I have an 82 degree one which opens quicker :sly

I took mine out other week to flush coolant through, it's said 88 on it?!

 

[Banshee]

I took mine out other week to flush coolant through, it's said 88 on it?!

So yours opens slower, I need that heat as quick as possible to warm my oil and my cockles :kissy

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

So yours opens slower, I need that heat as quick as possible to warm my oil and my cockles :kissy

That's an interesting take on it...

I was always told the hotter one allows the engine to run hotter, which is better in the winter, and as the Terrano's run low anyway, better all round for them in the UK climate. By trapping hotter water round the engine, it allows it to actually warm up quicker as well.

I think I can see a flaw in your reasoning though, I always thought the thermostat only stops the water passing through the radiator. The water that is trapped around the engine, is always pumped round the heater matrix, so the thermostat has no impact directly on that. That is the reason if the car starts to over heat, you open all the windows, and stick the heating full on, as it can save your engine, should the thermostat jam closed.

 

[terranosaurusdoug]

Aha that's what I was wondering, if they run quite cool, would I be risking anything if I put a hotter stat in?

Sorry to hijack your thread Clive

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Aha that's what I was wondering, if they run quite cool, would I be risking anything if I put a hotter stat in?

Sorry to hijack your thread Clive

I put one in my car not long after I got her, and have been running it for 3 years, including a fair bit of towing with no problems. Jiggly already had one in, when I fixed the thermostat housing leak.

Oh, and by the way, when I checked the filter for a date, the tiny mould stamp was 06/99, so as guessed at, its most likely is the original.. so much for Nissan servicing, as this one was done by them for the first 8 years of it's life.

 

[Banshee]

That's an interesting take on it...

I was always told the hotter one allows the engine to run hotter, which is better in the winter, and as the Terrano's run low anyway, better all round for them in the UK climate. By trapping hotter water round the engine, it allows it to actually warm up quicker as well.

I think I can see a flaw in your reasoning though, I always thought the thermostat only stops the water passing through the radiator. The water that is trapped around the engine, is always pumped round the heater matrix, so the thermostat has no impact directly on that. That is the reason if the car starts to over heat, you open all the windows, and stick the heating full on, as it can save your engine, should the thermostat jam closed.

I'm always open to being corrected, I've been told that the 82 degree one was much better for getting the heaters to churn out heat sooner :nenau

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

I'm always open to being corrected, I've been told that the 82 degree one was much better for getting the heaters to churn out heat sooner :nenau

It will be interesting to see what others think.

 

[terranosaurusdoug]

I put one in my car not long after I got her, and have been running it for 3 years, including a fair bit of towing with no problems. Jiggly already had one in, when I fixed the thermostat housing leak.

Oh, and by the way, when I checked the filter for a date, the tiny mould stamp was 06/99, so as guessed at, its most likely is the original.. so much for Nissan servicing, as this one was done by them for the first 8 years of it's life.

So you've got an 88 stat? That filter is so bad, I bet it blows like a hurricane compared now! I reckon nissan techs must know about that filter, probably couldn't be bothered takin trim off to change it! Give it to the ferrets, they could use it for burrowing its that bad :lol

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

So you've got an 88 stat?

Yes..

That filter is so bad, I bet it blows like a hurricane compared now! I reckon nissan techs must know about that filter, probably couldn't be bothered takin trim off to change it! Give it to the ferrets, they could use it for burrowing its that bad :lol

:lol Very true, then they will dig it all out, and spread it around the house.:doh

 

[solarman216]

It will be interesting to see what others think.

L F is absolutely correct, 88 stat will circulate around engine and heater till 88 is exceeded which it then opens a little to let some cool water in but maintaining 88 all the while, overheating happens when the whole rad is at or above 88 due to fan fail and or stationary in traffic, or loss of water etc, this is why you need to check your viscous fan from time to time, but this is a different story, Rick

 

[Banshee]

L F is absolutely correct, 88 stat will circulate around engine and heater till 88 is exceeded which it then opens a little to let some cool water in but maintaining 88 all the while, overheating happens when the whole rad is at or above 88 due to fan fail and or stationary in traffic, or loss of water etc, this is why you need to check your viscous fan from time to time, but this is a different story, Rick

Rick has taught me something again

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Had a chance to do a bit more to Jiggly today...

First off, out came the ashtray, and in went a switch panel.

I fitted a twin 3.1amp USB socket in the middle, and either side are the flashers for the amber strobe lights.

While I had the dash out, I replaced the cigarette socket, which had been mullered at some point, so you could not plug anything into it, plus the clips were snapped, so it kept popping out the dash, oh and the bulb was blown... I also made up a Cool White LED bulb for the cubby hole, as the bulb for that was also blown.

I had planned on using the existing 13 core cable to the towbar, but as I did a bit more looking at things, while disconnecting it from the cars wiring, I discovered so many issues with the remaining wiring, I decided it was best to just rip the lot out, and start again.

There were multiple Scotchlock joins in all of the cables, most having 3, and many having 4 joins, with differing sizes and colours of cables at each join. There was a wad of joins all wrapped in "insulting tape" behind the N/S Indicator, which took separate wires that ran from all the feeds, and joined them to a short length of 13core cable which ran along the towbar to the socket. As I pulled the old wires free, I discovered the permanent 12v feed to the socket had rubbed where it passed through the hole behind the bumper into the rear wing, and had at some point shorted out, which explains why the fuse was blown. I will now be replacing the whole lot with a new 13 core cable, and socket right the way into the car.

With all the bits I will be putting at the back of the car, I decided to run a big 12v feed cable, and then use a multi-core signal cable to trigger relays mounted at the rear. This will greatly reduce any voltage drop. To do this, I needed to put a few bits at the back for all the electrics.

First off, I cut a hole and made up a bracket to fix the relays, fuses, Bypass relay, and Power Joiner....

I then wired and labelled it all up with plugs and sockets, so I can put it in, and plug it all up easily.

Front..

The Back

And all fitted into place.

I am just waiting for the relays to arrive, I ordered some, and then got an Email to say they only had 2, did I want to wait until 17/12 for the other 4?... Joy... Cancelled order, and ordered them from another place.

I still have the Towing Socket to wire up, and the cable to run, but I need to get some flexible trunking to run it through, and work out where I am going to put the 13pin socket where it is out the way of mud etc.

I have ordered some nice dash switches, which I hope to let into the centre console beside the heated seat switches, but only 2 have arrived so far, so that will be a job for next week.

list of Jobs now,

The Passenger, and rear O/S windows do not work.
Wheels need balancing
Tracking out
Gas Air Con
Look into replacing front wing
replace plastic captive nut section for the Sunroof
Keep eye for ally thermostat cap, as this has a plastic one.
Centre Console lid inner moulding
Boot door carpet Trim panel broken along edge
New/repair steering wheel, as stitching has come apart
put modified led lightbar on bull bars
Finish connecting wires for second battery, and extras.
add second battery
Make second Flip key.

 

[solarman216]

Looks real good Clive, what a mess you had to sort, yes I have come across this sort of stuff many times, makes you wonder what they were thinking, got called to a car wash today, guy wanted me to replace 6 or so double sockets, I asked why? he said they do not work, I asked where the fuse board was, he did not know where or what I was talking about, had a hunt round and eventually found it, one 32 amp trip off, reset it, all sockets now good, on site 20 mins or so, told him £25 he thought I was having a laugh yea right, sorry for digressing but just thought it fitted the subject, Rick

 

[jims-terrano]

Loving all this wiring Clive, still can't decide if I'm keeping the green project machine. If I knew for sure I'd be doing a similar wiring job.

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Rick, he sounds like someone who should be nominated for the Darwin awards, would help the gene pool no end...

Didn't get as much done to Jiggly today as the Fuzzmobil decided to show some more of the green eyed monster, and just how jealous she is of her new sister.

The other day, when out helping KSAR with a road search, someone noticed several small patches of oil on the road behind us. We had a look under the car, but it was all nice and clean, so decided it must have been left by someone else. A couple of days later, the handbrake light would not go off when I released it. I added a faulty handbrake switch to the list of jobs to fix.

Last night, I decided to search on line, to see if I could find a picture of the switch, and stumbled across a post where someone else had had the same problem, and it turned out the Handbrake light is also the low fluid level light... (My car never came with a manual).

I looked at my reservoir, and it was nearly empty. I did a bit of searching and then saw the inside wall of the rear o/s tyre was all wet... Slave cylinder had gone. So I spent most of today fitting new Cylinders, brake shoes, etc to the rear of the Fuzzmobil.

I told her that if she does not start behaving, she wont be getting any shiny toys for Christmas..

Anyway, while waiting for the brake parts to be delivered, I started on the centre console, cutting the holes out for the switches... I like things to be balanced, so while modifying it, I moved the driver side heated seat switch to the other side.

We will now have switches for heated seats, Front Bumper light bar, Front Roof light bar, Rear roof Lights, rear power sockets, and the centre hole is for the trailer indicator warning lamp.

I am pleased with how it has come out.

 

[solarman216]

What is this with heated seats, my bum does not need this, Rick

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

What is this with heated seats, my bum does not need this, Rick

When you get to our age, heated seats can be dangerous... you suddenly have to check the switch to see if the seat is on, or you have had a mishap...

Must admit, on my V70, after a long day standing on site in a cold comms room, driving home with the heated seats on really did help my back.

 

[solarman216]

When you get to our age, heated seats can be dangerous... you suddenly have to check the switch to see if the seat is on, or you have had a mishap...

Must admit, on my V70, after a long day standing on site in a cold comms room, driving home with the heated seats on really did help my back.

never thought about it that way, phew very glad I do not have them, Rick