SVO

[extreme-4x4]

Hmmm cunning! I think I'll stick to 50/50 max for now and see how it goes.

No problems so far but have noticed that it splutters a bit on start up from cold and blows a bit of blue smoke. Now I know they say using SVO can expose problems and since it runs perfectly when even slightly warm (the smoke and splutter lasts only a few seconds) I'm wondering if my plugs might want changing. I've noticed that it seems to take at least twice as long as the older truck for the preheat light to extinguish and I'd put that down to either a weakish battery (75AH of unknown vintage, so was planning at least a 90/100 AH replacement soon) or dodgy glowplugs.

Since they aren't that expensive, is there any mileage in just swapping them out? I have a meter but not sure where to stick it - if you know what I mean (Team Wales keep quiet).

i just had visions of an old cary on film .... the one with the daffodil :lol:lol:lol

 

[lacroupade]

i just had visions of an old cary on film .... the one with the daffodil :lol:lol:lol

kiss my hairy a**...

 

[Deleted account DD]

If you start selling bio it becomes taxable.

I've never considered selling it so I've never taken any notice of suppliers regs but I do seem to remember the latest white paper (searching for it now ) allows the magic 2500litre threshold too????????

 

[Deleted account DD]

and on a lighter note have a read of this http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/footnmouth/biofuel.html

The asda managers comments about healthy eating are :thumb2


(ps old article so the bit about tax etc has changed)

 

[Deleted account DD]

I've never considered selling it so I've never taken any notice of suppliers regs but I do seem to remember the latest white paper (searching for it now ) allows the magic 2500litre threshold too????????

Here we go, now this refers to biodiesel but as HMRC seem to bunch alternative road fuels together I'm pretty certain it covers vege oil as a straight supply rather than manf, so according to the first paragraph:

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<!-- InstanceEndEditable --> <!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="Title" -->"Revenue & Customs Brief 43/07<!-- InstanceEndEditable -->

<!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="Content" --> Follow up to Revenue & Customs Brief 37/07 on Biofuels Simplification

• Revenue & Customs Brief 37/07

issued on 19 April 2007 confirmed that the following changes applying to biofuel producers were to be introduced:

• A production threshold of 2,500 litres per annum below which producers will not need to enter premises, submit returns or pay duty, and
• A reduction in the frequency of returns for all but the largest producers (defined as those producing over 450,000 litres per annum) from monthly to quarterly.

We can now confirm that these measures will be introduced on 30 June 2007."








still like clarification though

 

[lacroupade]

interesting to know if the biofuel and SVO limits are mutually exclusive....

Liked the Asda article....nipped into Tesco on the way home tonight and stuck 6x3ltr bottles in the trolley at £2.93 each just to continue my experiment...a little old lady giggled at me and said "gosh you do a lot of cooking dear!" - I just grinned! :naughty:naughty

 

[zippy656]

cant you ask where your local chippy gets theres from, they must get it cheaper...

 

[lacroupade]

cant you ask where your local chippy gets theres from, they must get it cheaper...

oh i'm about to buy 1000 litres of spanking new stuff at 50p/litre!!

 

[extreme-4x4]

thats 5 200 litre drums init .... dumb question but are you getting it in 5 drums or do you need to buy a storage tank so they can pump it in?

only askin cos your probably paying 25.00 for each drum before you get oil in it ?????

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

at 50p a litre i can undersand, but at about £1 a litre is there any point?

there are no benefits and a fair amount of associated risk!

and on top of that it is heresy, in the middle ages people were burned at the stake for less (or was it steak?) diesel engines run on diesel!


And above all that I am a coward!

 

[lacroupade]

thats 5 200 litre drums init .... dumb question but are you getting it in 5 drums or do you need to buy a storage tank so they can pump it in?

only askin cos your probably paying 25.00 for each drum before you get oil in it ?????

no it comes in a 1000 litre caged tank that you can later flog as a water butt!

 

[extreme-4x4]

at 50p a litre i can undersand, but at about £1 a litre is there any point?

there are no benefits and a fair amount of associated risk!

and on top of that it is heresy, in the middle ages people were burned at the stake for less (or was it steak?) diesel engines run on diesel!


And above all that I am a coward!

me too..... but i tried kerro, and enjoyed.

i recon the bloke up the road would change the engine for 250.00 and you'd possibly get an engine for another 250.00
so if you kill it its going to cost 500.00 minimum.
how long would it take to save the 500 on fuel in miles

using crisp and dry , could be the new anarchy

 

[extreme-4x4]

no it comes in a 1000 litre caged tank that you can later flog as a water butt!

seen them farmers use em...
so when you got 2 or three of them can you buy pumped in to your own tanks... possible saving ??????

 

[lacroupade]

at 50p a litre i can undersand, but at about £1 a litre is there any point?

there are no benefits and a fair amount of associated risk!

and on top of that it is heresy, in the middle ages people were burned at the stake for less (or was it steak?) diesel engines run on diesel!


And above all that I am a coward!

the 97p a litre experiment is just that - i wanted to see how it ran, and its an improvement - not a startling one but an improvement - not to mention being 12p a litre less than diesel.

and as has been pointed out, Diesel's original engine ran on peanut oil....

and what risk? theres lot of conjecture but the hard evidence is there - its been commonly done in Europe for many years.....and these trucks have the most vegoil friendly combination you can have (older engine technology, i.e. not common rail or direct injection, plus the Bosch fuel pump)....so I see no risk whatsoever, except that I might be running my truck at the equivalent of 75 a litre or less (at 50/50 mix)....or the equivalent of 37 mpg against full price fuel...

 

[Terranosaurus]

the 97p a litre experiment is just that - i wanted to see how it ran, and its an improvement - not a startling one but an improvement - not to mention being 12p a litre less than diesel.

How does that work? Diesels about 100p/L at the moment

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

so are you paying £1.07 a litre for fuel? I paid 98p two days ago! in that case your point seems better. I htink for me its the risk of 'down time' with any problems caused as that has to be added to the repair costs.

Goon on all you 'mavericks' (pardon the pun) for being brave enugh to experiment!

 

[lacroupade]

How does that work? Diesels about 100p/L at the moment

average £1.09 around Oxford area for diesel. but then we're rich ba5tards and we can afford it.....my arse!

 

[lacroupade]

Quick update on the earlier post about cold starting - this morning I left it a few seconds more after the glowplug light had gone off and it started fine, no drama, no smoke....so happy again!

Seems I was probably a bit quick on the throttle last time! :thumbs

 

[extreme-4x4]

ok so in plain words for us stupid people.

how much of this oil can we burn legally without paying any tax on it.

 

[Darwin]

ok so in plain words for us stupid people.

how much of this oil can we burn legally without paying any tax on it.

2500 Litres