racists thats me now

[tezzer]

yes, i am now officaly racist and bloody pi**ed off, i have had to throw my daughter out on the street, write a letter explaining that i have thrown them out, then they phone me to comfirm again that i wrote the letter, they then phoned again and asked if i could keep them for 2 more days and they will sort out accomadation, today they had an emergency appointment, and have been sent 15 miles away in a hotel that is full of immigrants, also they dont drive so i have to take them there, now all the immigrants are housed in my area in NEW houses and FLATS, because as soon as they are offered a house/ flat they dont want, they say the interviewer is a racist, what a poxy joke, there is sixty new homes been built where my old school was, i bet no one there will speaks english.

foreigners in the housing office are offered drinks, not the bloody british people, if they complain they are told to leave, my wife has seen this first hand when she went with the daughter to make an appointment.

now is anybody going to tell me im wrong for being a racist, this is happening all over britain and it is WRONG we should look after our own first. :banghead



tezzer

 

[extreme-4x4]

hey . you can be racist if you like, nothing wrong with having an opinion. its your right to make what ever choice you want!


behind you all the way

even the bloke who runs the bnp has a right to speak and his opinion
just chose your words carefully . or you could get into trouble

there is no law that says you have to deal with them , you can even refuse to talk to them. ignore them if you like

they cant take your freedom of speech from you

 

[dinky]

Democracy

 

[Deleted Member D]

Our lads

To think our lads (forces) are out amongst all these other countries trying to help them sort themselves out while our politics over here are putting them up in houses and giving them money too.
What is this country trying to prove to the rest of the world ? And why ?

 

[zippy]

It is not just immigrants. I was on our social housing list a few years back just after the NI ceasefire. Our housing is on a points system. I and my wife got 20 points to get a social house. This meant we would be on the housing system for about 15 years before getting a house. If however you were a drug dealer, intimidated out of their home or an ex IRA/UVF prisoner you got 200 points and were guaranteed a house of your choice straight away. It seems that the law abiders and the meek will always get shat upon from a great height at the expense of the people who demand!

Hope they get the house they want.

Regards
Lee

 

[Liam]

It is not just immigrants. I was on our social housing list a few years back just after the NI ceasefire. Our housing is on a points system. I and my wife got 20 points to get a social house. This meant we would be on the housing system for about 15 years before getting a house. If however you were a drug dealer, intimidated out of their home or an ex IRA/UVF prisoner you got 200 points and were guaranteed a house of your choice straight away. It seems that the law abiders and the meek will always get shat upon from a great height at the expense of the people who demand!

Hope they get the house they want.

Regards
Lee

No different down south ,Lee. The more trouble you cause the more people are there to help you. And then people wonder why people in Council/Local Authority housing are so pissed off. A few years ago councils bought up houses from developers who went bust and filled them with all sorts, really annoyed those who had paid a lot for their house and ended up beside scumbags/drug dealers. Hope you got sorted.

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

now is anybody going to tell me im wrong for being a racist, this is happening all over britain and it is WRONG we should look after our own first. :banghead



tezzer

Tezzer, i htink there is a world of diference between being a 'racist' and being annoyed by bad policy descisions, to be fair if I could up sticks and go to another country that would give me 10 times the income and 10times the standard of housing and living, at no cost to myself I would go too and so would most people i beleive?

I think it is an issue of 'bad political and social policy surrounding' this all over europe not just in the UK, not about "immigrants" and "our own" as in real terms England is a nation of immigrants and the descendents of immigrants and has no indigenous population whatsoever!

An example is the descision in france not to allow asylum to certain groups and keeping them moving on to the UK! so what we need is new policy initiatives, not what is essentialy victim blaming, as we blame the immigrants, and the doo gooders blame us then for our outspoken opinions and call us racist.

so racist no, annoyed at bad policy in the UK yes! :thumbs

 

[stefan]

i,m a nurse and i was in the outpatients department of the hospital i work in and these 2 immigrants(eastern european i think) were talking to each other and complaining it had taken a couple of months for them to get to see a consultant,which i thought was a bit rich,wonder how long it would take or how much it would cost for them to see a consultant in there own country,anyway,they waited for about an hour to see the doctor,so they were a bit miffed by the time they saw him,when they went in they in they started to kick off a bit,shouting,that sort of thing and the consultant promptly told them to bugger off,not in so many words but thats what he meant,they soon shut up,i thought it was hilarious as did a few of the other people sat there waiting patiently.
stef

 

[tezzer]

It is not just immigrants. I was on our social housing list a few years back just after the NI ceasefire. Our housing is on a points system. I and my wife got 20 points to get a social house. This meant we would be on the housing system for about 15 years before getting a house. If however you were a drug dealer, intimidated out of their home or an ex IRA/UVF prisoner you got 200 points and were guaranteed a house of your choice straight away. It seems that the law abiders and the meek will always get shat upon from a great height at the expense of the people who demand!

Hope they get the house they want.

Regards
Lee

well i can now report that after being sent to southend on sea to a absolute shite hole full of rag heads and drug dealers (standing outside) my son in law signed in and came back home, and with that phone a land lord he had previously had phoned and explained the problem, (a very decent lady) she dropped the rent from £800.00 a month to £700.00 so that the council will pay the rent, this was her idea, so after a quick call to council, we started to move them in today, and when or if s-i-law can find a job the rent will increase, no problem. but you all know that if we were from eastern europe or rag head country this would not happen, and if i was to mention this in a interview i would taken off housing list and escorted from building for being a racists, which i am. <a href="http://plugin.smileycentral.com/http%253A%252F%252Fwww.smileycentral.com%252F%253Fpartner%253DZSzeb008%255FZSfox000%2526i%253D17%252F17%255F6%255F12%2526feat%253Dprof/page.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/17/17_6_12.gif" alt="SmileyCentral.com" border="0"><img border="0" src="http://plugin.smileycentral.com/http%253A%252F%252Fimgfarm%252Ecom%252Fimages%252Fnocache%252Ftr%252Ffw%252Fsmiley%252Fsocial%252Egif%253Fi%253D17%252F17_6_12%2526uiv%253D3.0/image.gif"></a>


tezzer

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

sorry lads but when a thread becomes this openly racist I think its time to shut it down as I find rascism offensive.

compare this to the Gurkha thread now runnig, and thnk how hypoctitical this is, 'rag heads'? think of the sikh soildiers who have fought and died in world wars for Britain, or does that mean nothing? or do we have two sets of standards for those we like and those we dont?

I know where you are coming from , but as I said this is a policy thing not a reason to insult a persons racial or ethnic origins, surley we can deabate a potential contentious issue without resorting to this?

 

[clivvy]

you dont sound racist to me. I havent read you state that all foreigners should get out due to thier colour, background or creed? You do however sound bloody p*ssed off at the system, like many millions of us around the country. Its a laugh here, for anyone that is a criminal and a foreigner. Dont get me wrong, its GOOD to help people, and our country is very very generous to the needy (with our tax money), and considering the countrys past, it should be but times have changed now since th edays of the empire and this country simply cannot sustain the situation fo rmuch longer. I cannot believe that the born and bread british do not get preferential treatment, such as your SIL. I cannot believe that some of you have to wait on a list for 15 years...FIFTEEN????? WTF? disgrace. I tell you this, I don t work bloody hard, and make myself ill through stress and worry to pay for spongers new houses and bills paid for before the good people who deserve it.yet that is what happens. i am sickend. one day this will change i am certain. The problem is government and powerful figures that are NOW in control of our country, this is why immigranst and criminals etc are treated so much better than the law abiding. Tell me, what is the point in being law abiding? We all see criminals getting away with it everyday, yet it is us that are made to pay dearly for our words, or actions, or for doing nothing at all (Ian Tomlinson walking home) and its sick,. bring this up with any polition or police man and you are told you are wrong, or arrested.

anyway, ist all bloody rubbish, all I can say is I wish the best to our people.

 

[extreme-4x4]

so is it not fair to suggest these people , use the race card to gain what they want

example, they often threaten councils and public service staff that they are entitled to whatever it is they expect. and if they dont get it then the person is discriminating against them. that too is racism.

i dont need to use these so called offensive words .... we all know who they are..... not bloody British thats whomaybe its our ignorance that us british get called racists. if we spent the time to learn thair language , we would most likely find out what they refer to us as.

i personally am not offended, but i can see planks point of view. as i can see tezzer's point of view and freedom of speech

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

there is a whole lot of diffeence between frrdom of speech and offensive terms like 'rag head' and even 'not bllody british'

check the gurkha thread again they aren't bloody british either are they? but im still glad to have them on our team and would welcome a family of them living in my street. regardless of their britishness, this is my point this has noting to do with race just politics, and us hiding behind race (yes all of us of every race and nationality) just makes us puppets of the political descisions that make these situations arrise.

and the politicians keep getting away with it i think the phrase is 'divide and conquer' and there is nothing more devisive than race!

Im stopping contributing to this now as what started as a reasonable topic for debate, which was to me 'if certain veews and opinions were racist, and i thought not, has now descended into something else!

 

[extreme-4x4]

please dont tell me the word "british" is racist now...?

unless it was the words not or bloody:nenau


i can see paki or piky or jew..... but british


hang on lets all get our white flags and surrender now:surrender

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

please dont tell me the word "british" is racist now...?

unless it was the words not or bloody:nenau


i can see paki or piky or jew..... but british


hang on lets all get our white flags and surrender now:surrender

see this is how far it sinks! this is my very last contribution to this, but in the right (or wrong) context many words can be considered racist by their disparaging conotation, or pejorative stance. British as a word is not racist but defining people by their not being british could be, but im sure your just winding me up now.

to be honest i'm pretty sick of this sort of thing now, we are all mature adults and must realise there may be 'non british' members of this club we could be offending, and his sort of thing could if it got out of hand be the end of this and clubs like it.

my adivce is to keep clear of racism as a topic and move on as we have so many interesting threads we can contribute too without treading on anyones toes!

This is a friendly club and should be regardless of your ethicity, or nationality etc.!

 

[extreme-4x4]

im not female... does that make me sexist
im not colored .... does that make me racist

i am British ... does that make me a racist


to state that they are not British or as i stated "not bloody British", is merely a fact , as they ...the ones in question are simply not British

i think the problem here is the fact than me, and many others have had enough of giving to people who have not contributed and often have no intention of contributing to our society.

i dont expect everyone to have the same view as me, but i have had enough of giving and getting nothing in return.

and i will be talking with my legs this time... all the way to the polling booth, to make my views very clear.

i trust you will do the same

 

[clivvy]

this is an old argument anyway. its been around since the 70's. its just more and more apparent now due to immigration increases. personally, i dont liek racisim. its a bit old hat. people is people. better to live together, and deal with these spongers as and when. the system needs an overhaul, thats what.

 

[tezzer]

sorry lads but when a thread becomes this openly racist I think its time to shut it down as I find rascism offensive.

compare this to the Gurkha thread now runnig, and thnk how hypoctitical this is, 'rag heads'? think of the sikh soildiers who have fought and died in world wars for Britain, or does that mean nothing? or do we have two sets of standards for those we like and those we dont?

I know where you are coming from , but as I said this is a policy thing not a reason to insult a persons racial or ethnic origins, surley we can deabate a potential contentious issue without resorting to this?

plank, i doubt you have had to throw any of your children out of your home officaly, so they get a home of thier own, because if you had you would'nt come out with this post, and you would chomping at the bit like me, as for gurkha's i do work with them and yes i would rather live next them than the ragheads who site death to our innocent people they are parasites all of them, how do you think the families of the victims blown up feel. bloody immegrants send them back home. and i have sent an e-mail to downing street suggesting the same, with my address and i hope i do hear from them. then i will have the chance to really pi**ed off, poxy spongers send them home.

 

[extreme-4x4]

can i just bring to your attention, someone has made it clear they would prefer the words like "rag head" not to be used.

so while its up to you what you discuss. i think its fair to refrain from using such words.

it is a fact of law the term "rag head" can be considered racist.

i used the term "not bloody british". but no court in the land could find that racist


i did point out earlier, you can discuss whatever you like just choose your words carefully

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

as i said im dont want to be getting but your argument is wrong, and yes the statment you make could be considered racist by any court in the right (or wrong) circumstances.

well I would employ her, but im not female! = sexism

i would empoly him, but im not coloured like he is = racism

and the phrase 'coloured' is in itslef seen as racist and unaceptable and has been for the last 20 + years

tezzer, im not having a go at you, i agree you have had bad experiences, but so have we all in many ways, and i can sympathise mate, but send all imigrants home, and poxy scroungers is a bit strong for this site dont you think? So who shall we sart with then? half the pro football players, the duke of edinburgh? or maybe lets go back in history and do the ob properly, the romans? the vikings? or the saxons that invaded and wiped out the indigenous population and as such form the bulk of the dna stiock all british people are now descende from? Immigration has been a constant feature of British history for as long as it has been recorded, so has emmigration, Australia, USA etc began as British colonies. The imigration and scrounger thing is an unaceptable steroptype.

I agree current social policies that seem to priorotise non uk nationals are wrong, but most are funded my central europe and without that cash a lot of the homes would stand empty or derelcit as local councils can't manage them. And that is also wrong!

What we need is a change of policy not more victim blaming! that is too easy to just sit and moan rather than do anyhting about it! I dont think voting will do any good just exchange one load of idiots for another, we need something more radical!

as we are on the subject why did you throw them out? why did you need too?

but you do need to seperate racist comments from the real issues, i.e. imigrants are scroungers what about doctors and scientists etc from the same countries? or are only unmloyed sikhs 'ragheads' and the others are OK? its the double standards that sink the argument! or on the other hand are white unemplyed people sccroungers too? or what about non uk white people? it is too complicatd for words but basically it is wrong to stereotype people on the basis of their ethnicity or nationality regardless of the circmstances.

I am not saying 1000's of people from overseas coming here for free housing and handouts is right, but it is the policy that alows them to do this that is wrong, in the same circumstances we would do the same thing! and in fact do!

I really htink this thread should now be locked and or deleted as it has nothing to add to the smooth running of this club! can non members read this? if so what must any of them think who are outside the UK or are Asian, or mixed race, or imigrants etc etc etc?


I suggest to mods that as soon as a thread takes a racist turn it should be jumped on, before it goes to far!