Hi Folks.

[briggie]

if you can find one , you want a 2.7td ....... not tdi ....... virtually indestructible engine , no complicated electronics ....... and will run on veg oil :thumb2

 

[don simon]

Very true trols are nice motors Paul.

That Terrano on ebay looks smart doesn't it. Only problem I can see is that it is the large tax bracket, £500 but the slightly earlier are £285 and earlier still are cheaper but you can guarantee the really early ones will need welding. A very nice looking Terrano just the same and I prefer those headlamps with the chrome grill. My old 05 plate had that style and I think they are a lot better lamps too.
By the way if you get a Terrano with that style of alloy wheel I have one with abrand new tyre on it that I'd like to sell.

I'm confused on the VED costs here, I certainly didn't pay £500 on my 2005 plate. A quick check tells me I paid £290. Interweb says the change relates to pre and post 2001 vehicles.
Nice looking vehicle there Dave and a good price, I much prefer the black interior.

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if you can find one , you want a 2.7td ....... not tdi ....... virtually indestructible engine , no complicated electronics ....... and will run on veg oil

The TDi runs on veg too, doesn't it? Doesn't it?

 

[briggie]

some members have had their 2.7 td since new ..... over 20 years I believe :augie

 

[rustic]

some members have had their 2.7 td since new ..... over 20 years I believe :augie

Yes I have heard a rumour about that...:augie

:lol:lol:lol

 

[briggie]

I'm confused on the VED costs here, I certainly didn't pay £500 on my 2005 plate. A quick check tells me I paid £290. Interweb says the change relates to pre and post 2001 vehicles.
Nice looking vehicle there Dave and a good price, I much prefer the black interior.

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The TDi runs on veg too, doesn't it? Doesn't it?

yep :thumb2

 

[jims-terrano]

I'm confused on the VED costs here, I certainly didn't pay £500 on my 2005 plate. A quick check tells me I paid £290. Interweb says the change relates to pre and post 2001 vehicles.
Nice looking vehicle there Dave and a good price, I much prefer the black interior.

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The TDi runs on veg too, doesn't it? Doesn't it?

Check the VED and you will see the tax band changed around 2005 and 2006, when it changed it went from the £290 to the £500 band. My 05 plate was in the £285 band as it was then but obviously gone up a fiver to £290.

Yes the tax bands changed around 2001 think it is around the £200 mark for the early trucks, both of mine will be in that band.

Depending upon the fuel pump tdi's will run on veg too. The td stopped uk sales around 1995 ish and yes it has less electronics but chances of finding one in good condition are very slim.

Dave will be getting very confused with all this information over load.

 

[don simon]

Yes the tax bands changed around 2001 think it is around the Yes the tax bands changed around 2001 think it is around the £200 mark for the early trucks, both of mine will be in that band. mark for the early trucks, both of mine will be in that band.

Closer to £230, I can't see anything beyond the 2001 date change on the DVLA site. Looks like I got lucky with the 05 plate.
That would go some way to explaining why the linked Terrano above is so cheap.

 

[Barrbeast]

I'm gonna stay out of the Trol or Terrano debate as I'm obviously gonna be biased

With regard to engines, don't discount the 3.0 because of the timing chain - the 3.0 is a hybrid timing gear/chain and all the chain drives is the camshaft. As a result it's understressed and shouldn't need replaced according to the Aussie's (same engine used in the Trols and the Aussie's know about Trols).

Early 3.0s had a bad rep but were sorted by the time they were used in the Terrano.

Only real downside is they won't run veg oil.

 

[Dave_Askham]

Well it looks as though I put the cat amongst the pigeons with my question about the advantages of a TROL over a Terrano, I heard the collective 'sigh' from the masses as soon as I hit the enter key !!!

Thanks to all who have responded to my thread, your info, insight and advice is certainly very welcome.

Jim's comments on the VED cost of the terrano I saw on ebay are quite correct £500 per year tax - OUCH !!!! I think I'll give that one a wide berth, however it looks as though an 05 plate is £290 which is a little more acceptable. I'll have to unleash the power of the internet to see what I can find.

again, thanks to rustic for his advice on checking for iron worm, I have seen Jim's project thread and seen the fun that can be had finding and eradicating the little blighters, if I can avoid a load of grinder / welding time I'd prefer that, I don't have enough time as it is without buying ANOTHER project.

As for the veg oil debate, in all honesty it's something I had considered with my VW t4 van, but getting WVO and filtering and buggering about is just a load of hassle I can do without, I bought a little vw polo with LPG fitted for my daily commute, that was cheaper than anything I found in the end, and I didn't smell like a fish and chip shop rolling down the road !!!

again, thanks to all, and I'll keep you all informed of the progress and post some pictures of my purchase as and when it's here...

 

[Dave_Askham]

I'm gonna stay out of the Trol or Terrano debate as I'm obviously gonna be biased

With regard to engines, don't discount the 3.0 because of the timing chain - the 3.0 is a hybrid timing gear/chain and all the chain drives is the camshaft. As a result it's understressed and shouldn't need replaced according to the Aussie's (same engine used in the Trols and the Aussie's know about Trols).

Early 3.0s had a bad rep but were sorted by the time they were used in the Terrano.

Only real downside is they won't run veg oil.

When you say Early 3.0 engines, what year would they change to a 'newer' engine?

 

[rustic]

...
Thanks to all who have responded to my thread, your info, insight and advice is certainly very welcome...

Dave, I think you are going to fit in very well with this club, good luck with your hunt for a suitable vehicle.
Having spent your £10 before buying one, you could easily save more than that in the long run, if not already.:thumb2
Most members buy one, have a few problems, look for a suitable forum, and then start to fix it with our advice.

Welcome onboard.:thumb2

Rustic

 

[Dave_Askham]

Dave, I think you are going to fit in very well with this club, good luck with your hunt for a suitable vehicle.
Having spent your £10 before buying one, you could easily save more than that in the long run, if not already.:thumb2
Most members buy one, have a few problems, look for a suitable forum, and then start to fix it with our advice.

Welcome onboard.:thumb2

Rustic

I've already saved it, I almost bought one with £500 a year Tax !!!! :naughty

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

<<<SNIP>>>

As for the veg oil debate, in all honesty it's something I had considered with my VW t4 van, but getting WVO and filtering and buggering about is just a load of hassle I can do without, I bought a little vw polo with LPG fitted for my daily commute, that was cheaper than anything I found in the end, and I didn't smell like a fish and chip shop rolling down the road !!!

again, thanks to all, and I'll keep you all informed of the progress and post some pictures of my purchase as and when it's here...

Many of us just use brand new cooking oil straight from the can, so no need to worry about filtering, just changing the fuel filter on the car each service.

With cooking oil from Costco/Bookers etc. at £12.30 for 20l, I can put up with smelling like a fish and chip shop, especially as I only smell it when I reverse into a parking space.. Actually I say I can put up with it, the only time it is really a problem is when we are on a late night KSAR shout, and after a couple of miles crawling along on a road search, we all start to feel really hungry... :lol I am not allowed to be the lead vehicle any more as the searchers find it hard to concentrate on looking around when their tummies are rumbling

 

[Barrbeast]

When you say Early 3.0 engines, what year would they change to a 'newer' engine?

Only applies to the Trols as they were sorted by the time Nissan started putting them into the Terrano (around 2003 I think). Some of the earlier 3.0 Trols are fine but it's very much pot luck.

 

[emjaybee]

Closer to £230, I can't see anything beyond the 2001 date change on the DVLA site. Looks like I got lucky with the 05 plate.
That would go some way to explaining why the linked Terrano above is so cheap.

Just renewed tax on my '05 T2, £290!

:thumb2

 

[don simon]

Just renewed tax on my '05 T2, £290!

:thumb2

The only benefit I can find with paying that much is the muppets who have a pop at me when cycling about not paying road tax!!! :doh

 

[Dave_Askham]

Just renewed tax on my '05 T2, £290!

:thumb2

I have had a look at the DVLA tax related web page and this is a caveat at the bottom of one of the tables....

http://carfueldata.dft.gov.uk/

* Band K includes cars that have a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006

which is why some are £290 and some are £500 +

 

[emjaybee]

I have had a look at the DVLA tax related web page and this is a caveat at the bottom of one of the tables....

http://carfueldata.dft.gov.uk/

* Band K includes cars that have a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006

which is why some are £290 and some are £500 +

Congratulations!

You've just put something back into the forum!

:clap:clap:clap

Thanks for that, I reckon that there's a few of us on here who were wondering how that difference in tax came about.

:thumb2

 

[don simon]

Autotrader says http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510027441606?page=2&radius=1500&model=terrano_ii&postcode=ch14en&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&engine-size-cars=2-6l_to_2-9l&sort=default&make=nissan&search-target=usedcars&logcode=p

 

[Banshee]

Loving this thread :thumb2