CAUTION ref. SUNFLOWER OIL.!

[solarman216]

Glad you got it sorted, but Sun Flower oil, nah it was the petrol that did it, the glow plugs tell you that, 11 mm shorter?, they got more than well hot, and only the petrol could cause that, we used to add parafin to our derv going to Austria in the winter -20 degrees to stop the derv waxing but would never ever add petrol, Rick

 

[Deleted account DD]

I agree with solarman not SVO.

Theres absolutely nothing in your account of the problems youve had that indicates svo was to blame.

If anything its a fail to maintain (not cleaning out properly for one) tweaking from standard (you takes your chance) and wrong parts (glow plugs are leaping out there!!) all on an older higher mileage wagon.

Dont slag the svo and using it when theres nothing to support your allegations, opinion should be based on fact :thumb2

 

[Deleted account DD]

this is my worry about usimg 'alternative' fuels.

Do a search on keywords like veggie, svo, vegetable oil ....etc etc youll soon find its no more risky than changing from castrol to millers oil in the sump so long as basic rules are observed :thumb2

 

[Adz]

Theres absolutely nothing in your account of the problems youve had that indicates svo was to blame.

Yes it does ! As it's the only thing that i have done different in 2 years's.!

If anything its a fail to maintain It's serviced every 3 months thank-you... (not cleaning out properly for one) tweaking from standard Only up'd the boost... (you takes your chance) and wrong parts :nenau Like what I only use geniune nissan :nono (glow plugs are leaping out there!!) all on an older higher mileage wagon. don't call 120000 high mileage on a 95 motor with 3 owner's from new & full history / no welding / no accident damage :hmh



Dont slag the svo and using it when theres nothing to support your allegations, opinion should be based on fact :thumb2

Unless your a fly on my shoulder there's nothing to support your allegations regarding my truck & how its maintained.! & unless your a diesel / fuel mixtures expert as my mates friend is, then i'll take his FACT's over your CLAIM's any day

Sun Flower Oil on it's own need's to burn higher than Veg or Bio

I do love the people on here who talk the talk or read book's & think they no everything & there always right & everybody else is wrong...

Bit like people saying what you should & shouldn't do off road but don't actually do it them selves...

You always bitch with me so don't bother replying to my threads if you have no worth while input...

 

[Adz]

Glad you got it sorted, but Sun Flower oil, nah it was the petrol that did it, the glow plugs tell you that, 11 mm shorter?, they got more than well hot, and only the petrol could cause that, we used to add parafin to our derv going to Austria in the winter -20 degrees to stop the derv waxing but would never ever add petrol, Rick

11mm shorter when put next to the new ones :doh

For the amount of petrol that was in I don't think it was mate.?

Me mate's mate is going to do me a chart so to speak about the mixture's & burning temp's & the structure or each :nenau :lol that'sgoing to really help me :doh I just need an idiot guide :lol to know how much of what to put in :augie

I might try to find time to get down so you can see the old girl & wake the engine in the back :thumbs

 

[solarman216]

Me mate's mate is going to do me a chart so to speak about the mixture's & burning temp's & the structure or each :nenau :lol that'sgoing to really help me :doh I just need an idiot guide :lol to know how much of what to put in :augie

I might try to find time to get down so you can see the old girl & wake the engine in the back :thumbs

That would be good, like to see Dirty Frog, and it would be good to get the engine off the floor, Rick

 

[Adz]

That would be good, like to see Dirty Frog, and it would be good to get the engine off the floor, Rick

:lol

1/2 my engine's auxiliary's are on my mate's workshop floor :doh :augie

Us Essex Boyz get about :lol

 

[Deleted account DD]

Theres absolutely nothing in your account of the problems youve had that indicates svo was to blame.

Yes it does ! As it's the only thing that i have done different in 2 years's.!

If anything its a fail to maintain It's serviced every 3 months thank-you... (not cleaning out properly for one) tweaking from standard Only up'd the boost... (you takes your chance) and wrong parts :nenau Like what I only use geniune nissan :nono (glow plugs are leaping out there!!) all on an older higher mileage wagon. don't call 120000 high mileage on a 95 motor with 3 owner's from new & full history / no welding / no accident damage :hmh



Dont slag the svo and using it when theres nothing to support your allegations, opinion should be based on fact :thumb2

Unless your a fly on my shoulder there's nothing to support your allegations regarding my truck & how its maintained.! & unless your a diesel / fuel mixtures expert as my mates friend is, then i'll take his FACT's over your CLAIM's any day

Sun Flower Oil on it's own need's to burn higher than Veg or Bio

I do love the people on here who talk the talk or read book's & think they no everything & there always right & everybody else is wrong...

Bit like people saying what you should & shouldn't do off road but don't actually do it them selves...

You always bitch with me so don't bother replying to my threads if you have no worth while input...

Youre talking out of your arse.....again. your sunflower comment reminds me of the petulant child who throws the new nikes out because the lace snapped :naughty sort of somewhere conditionally near but essentially an outburst looking for attention.

Theres absolutely nothing in your account to solely blame svo for your woes. Your own account of your problems stitch you up for goodness sake :doh unless youve ran the truck under identical conditions for two years , no prob then two years no change except svo you may just support your assertions otherwise hmmmmm. I thought you only got it early 2009 ? possibly wrong , my memory.

If you experiment and push you take your chance so dont blame a few tubs of oil for your problems when many of us have talked the talk walked the walk and proved beyond reasonable doubt otherwise. If you dont believe me get hold of a copy of 4x4 mag and look at the desert crossing in carbon neutral svo & wvo trucks.

Anyway, lets get one thing straight adz, i dont bitch with you for the sake of it, i point out when youre being a numb nuts talking bollox, thats different.

Youve managed to do it again when you brought up the book reading and off road...............just for the record I am a fully qualified hands on experienced mechanical engineer (to graduate level, just joined the forces instead of uni)with in excess of 40 years engine and car building/maint experience (did my first oil change when I was in junior school it was a hard life then up north). I have one relative who is a main dealer and one who runs an engineering/car workshop, quite frankly I find them and the local petrochemical boffins I have access to very very good sources of advice and info indeed in relation to this forum. Also if you are around 30 or so in age I was driving 4x4s off road as part of my job around the world whilst you were still reading Janet and John. Not a bad cv eh, if I get run over I can say hand on heart Ive had an absolute hoot, been around, literally got my hands dirty in situations your play time will probably never take you to but made the most of things :lol:lol:lol

The ultimate point of that ramble ? quite simple really...................sort of makes your comment about talking the talk and reading up look a bit silly , again you opened your gob and shite tumbled out, you dint know that about me because you didnt ask (oops) and I didnt tell (lol) try researching and asking properly before you kick off next time..........think about it before you get back to me again all angry.

I can also tell you with authority Im not the only one who hold these views. No one gets on with everyone but..................... :naughty

 

[Deleted account DD]

In fact Adz, talking of posting inaccurate info, on 25th May 2009 you posted that you had "just bought" the truck.

You had problems with it then.

That is also 17 months ago, that is not the two years ago you now refer to :nenau

You must post accurately if you wish to become credible.

 

[Fez_uk]

I love forums.:lol

 

[11redrex]

I'll join you there Fez :lol

where's the opcrn

 

[briggie]

there are ways to make a point without resorting to profanity and personal abuse surely ?

 

[Adz]

That's how it is between us

I'm not perfect & do struggle putting word's to text but I'll take & give advice & help anybody as people that know me, know :thumbs

Rather than attacking as usual, he could of explained & helped but that isn't how he seem's to work :nenau

Rather than share & help, just wind up, nit pick & not post to help the problem for all to read & take in...

That's why i started the other thread about what fuel you use so people that do & want to get mixture's right so this doesn't happen to anybody else :thumbs

 

[briggie]

i am not taking sides , but i think a perfectly valid view can be made without resorting to profanity or personal abuse ......... just my view

 

[Deleted account DD]

That's how it is between us

I'm not perfect & do struggle putting word's to text but I'll take & give advice & help anybody as people that know me, know :thumbs

Rather than attacking as usual, he could of explained & helped but that isn't how he seem's to work :nenau

Rather than share & help, just wind up, nit pick & not post to help the problem for all to read & take in...

That's why i started the other thread about what fuel you use so people that do & want to get mixture's right so this doesn't happen to anybody else :thumbs

Have a re read of your thread.

Your hostile angry reaction was clear. So drop this saintly "he could have" or " i try to" line and simply accept you went bowling in without thinking first. I put the point quite ambiently and clearly that nothing in your account supported your accusation of svo wrecking your truck. You had every chance to respond accurately and informatively yet I'll remind you how started chuntering on about reading books and for some odd reason, about going off road.
However you had no idea of the experience of the individual you were aiming those derogatory comments at.

Your initial post was actually incredibly unhelpful. All the positive info on here regarding svo countered by one petulant sounded unfounded unevidenced comment on svo. There was no evidence of a decent approach to fault finding (ultimately the cause was stumbled upon and was lack of cleanliness and wrong or u/s parts !!!............they're a couple of very basic first steps in checking any fuel system that even someone like myself who's only read books and never driven off road would check very early on) and there's certainly no evidence to support svo being responsible for trashing your engine. Please feel free to counter those points in a proper manner. I don't care about spelling or articulate prose, I'm looking for the info contained.

I assure you adz unlike your good self , across the threads I make statements when I know, ask questions when I want to know and keep quiet when I dont know.

I don't attack you, i tell you when I think you're wrong and fall foul of the practice above. On this occasion based on what you've posted you certainly seem to be wrong and I don't think you're good at accepting that.

Overall however in summary


:jesterbg

 

[Deleted account DD]

there are ways to make a point without resorting to profanity and personal abuse surely ?

on the personal basis:

attempts at getting info out factual until

"I do love the people on here who talk the talk or read book's & think they no everything & there always right & everybody else is wrong...

Bit like people saying what you should & shouldn't do off road but don't actually do it them selves...

You always bitch with me so don't bother replying to my threads if you have no worth while input..."

I wouldnt deny anyone at all the right to reply.



on the profanity:

Not really, all very mild, I will remind you theres a filter on here that sets the base line

 

[Adz]

Right "daved" Mr Factual :augie

Read this.! Had i :doh i wouldn't of had this problem :doh

http://www.bio-power.co.uk/tryit.htm

I put in 100% Sun Flower Oil on it's own & the 1st time i had tried it.!
From Wale's to Essex.! :doh
300 + miles :doh


As for the 17 months ownership, I merely rounded it up but I am more than happy to figure out to the nearest second of posting how long I've owned it...

The problem it had when I bought it, was that it had a new pump put on it but it had not been TDC or fuel pump timed

I don't listen to people who state things when they clearly like to bitch & think they know it all.

I do how ever listen to people that know what there talking about & want to help not hinder.

 

[briggie]

reminds me of my school days ( a long long time ago ) and the debating society ...... personally i hated it

 

[Adz]

Also while we're on FACT's.!

I have stated that it was SUN FLOWER OIL on it's own.!

NOT the following.! :-

SVO = Straight Vegetable Oil

Vegetable Oil

Bio Diesel

WVO = Waste Vegetable Oil



SVO IS NOT SUN FLOWER OIL



So make sure you get your fact's right...

 

[briggie]

shout at me if you wish , but wouldnt this debate be better discussed in pm ? :nenau