Bomb proof my @rse!!!

[slimlfc68]

i think its just the interior thats a little different but yes basicly the same car

i found it odd that nissan didnt make the terrano and the mav in japan



also found the isuzu has got some trophys behind it as well for off roading



i didnt think they had off road motorsports back then :nenau:nenau

some cred then mate suppose it can,t win without it being all bad can it:nenau

 

[MontysMaverick]

i think its just the interior thats a little different but yes basicly the same car

i found it odd that nissan didnt make the terrano and the mav in japan



also found the isuzu has got some trophys behind it as well for off roading



i didnt think they had off road motorsports back then :nenau:nenau

Yeah they had off road 4x4s have a look at the famous Camel trophy on google, if you like green ovals then its up your street.

off roading has been going for years, I did 3 timed challenges back in 1980ish with a series 2a with a v6 3 litre ford essex engine fitted around derbyshire, in the days when people went to a meet and if you broke down theyd help you and rob parts so you could compete, no money involved, just the thrill of competing, now its all 200k cars and race crews etc etc, totally gone to pot in my opinion

 

[kbekl]

some cred then mate suppose it can,t win without it being all bad can it:nenau

i dont have a clue what a trooper was doing in a rally lol

dont need cred mate i have lotus handling pack lmfao nothing can pull that back

 

[briggie]

this thread should be re titled ... my arse is bomb proof :naughty

 

[slimlfc68]

Yeah they had off road 4x4s have a look at the famous Camel trophy on google, if you like green ovals then its up your street.

off roading has been going for years, I did 3 timed challenges back in 1980ish with a series 2a with a v6 3 litre ford essex engine fitted around derbyshire, in the days when people went to a meet and if you broke down theyd help you and rob parts so you could compete, no money involved, just the thrill of competing, now its all 200k cars and race crews etc etc, totally gone to pot in my opinion

its the money involved now mate .taken the sport out of sport now nothin the same as it was back in the day .

 

[MontysMaverick]

some cred then mate suppose it can,t win without it being all bad can it:nenau

yeah but back then like now theyd be jazzed up to the roof with non standard kit that never saw a production line, same with the mitsubishis later on all money and prestige but no cigar for running a production class car

 

[kbekl]

Yeah they had off road 4x4s have a look at the famous Camel trophy on google, if you like green ovals then its up your street.

off roading has been going for years, I did 3 timed challenges back in 1980ish with a series 2a with a v6 3 litre ford essex engine fitted around derbyshire, in the days when people went to a meet and if you broke down theyd help you and rob parts so you could compete, no money involved, just the thrill of competing, now its all 200k cars and race crews etc etc, totally gone to pot in my opinion

its all just about money now and nothing else

i like the look of the discovery but the holes in the floor just put me right off them

used to race go carts when i was a kid and my step dad used to do motorcross

 

[slimlfc68]

i dont have a clue what a trooper was doing in a rally lol

dont need cred mate i have lotus handling pack lmfao nothing can pull that back

not street cred credentials as in it won stuff :lol

 

[MontysMaverick]

its the money involved now mate .taken the sport out of sport now nothin the same as it was back in the day .

Yeah ya right fella, we used to carry spare half shafts as they were pretty vile back then and forever breaking, always remember we had 4 spares at one meet and at the end we had none all loaned out so that the other guys could compete, no winches,if you had one you were rich, light duty rollcages, and a heavy right foot, ay them were the good old days when there was sportsman in the hobby not money men

Christ I sound like me father....

 

[slimlfc68]

Yeah ya right fella, we used to carry spare half shafts as they were pretty vile back then and forever breaking, always remember we had 4 spares at one meet and at the end we had none all loaned out so that the other guys could compete, no winches,if you had one you were rich, light duty rollcages, and a heavy right foot, ay them were the good old days when there was sportsman in the hobby not money men

Christ I sound like me father....

yep grass roots would start it then some rich tawt would come along and build it bigger and better coz he could and had more money than sense:sly

 

[kbekl]

a qoute from isuzu about going through mud

keep the power on and do everyhing possible to keep moving. Even if the vehicle is only moving very slowly while the wheels are spinning, keep working and you will probably claw you way through!

so basicly floor it and hope for the best lol

 

[MontysMaverick]

Ah well such is life, Im off now to dream of owning a isuzu, so its valium time as I dont want to wake up in a cold sweat with me arse twitchin and me having dreams of me wallet keep emptying, catch ya soon chaps and chapses

:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

 

[slimlfc68]

a qoute from isuzu about going through mud



so basicly floor it and hope for the best lol

or get the other half to get out an push :lol.no such thing as a free ride.:naughty

 

[slimlfc68]

Ah well such is life, Im off now to dream of owning a isuzu, so its valium time as I dont want to wake up in a cold sweat with me arse twitchin and me having dreams of me wallet keep emptying, catch ya soon chaps and chapses

:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

me too night all .

 

[Muckypup]

WOOOOOOOOOOW WHAT HAVE I MISSED HERE!!!!

FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN!!!! :lol


Karl - you aint ever going to win on a Nissan website! :lol I'd also look into Isuzu motors before bragging, theres a reason they are cheap mate - just like Mavs. But you are right, the 3.0 is known for the engine EXPLODING and the 3.1 it is said is the one to buy. As for the lotus suspension, it will be a little un-lotus like when carrying 2+ tons, is 15 years old and suffered 100,000 miles almost. They are good motors mate, I know a farmer that will buy nothing else but I would not start bragging about their mechanical reliability, thats tempting fate on a car that has dear parts to start with, let alone the fact its an import! They can be shocking for parts at times!
As for thinking you dont need a snorkel mate, I dont know what you've ben reading but disregard that info immediately! If your gonna go near ANY WATER AT ALL fit a bloody snorkel mate, you'll only end up with the same fate if you dont!

Bomb proof - Toyota Hi-lux 2.4 diesel non turbo. End of. The most reliable 4x4 ever produced. Fact.

Teranno / Maverick - I base my opinions and advise on personal experience. I've owned one, know a number of folk who have also owned one and my conclusion - I'd never buy another! And neither would they! But I do not doubt there are good and bad ones and we must have been unlucky.
I thought I was getting a good one, 104,000 miles and full service... nope it was a lemon! :doh

Taxis - who ever told you the taxis with the Nissan engine were reliable, i'd ask them again now a bit of time has passed by :lol My mate purposly bought the Chrysler engined TX1 due to all his mates having probs with the Nissan engine, and also performance and economy.

MPG - My 4.0 lpg Grand Cherry is costing around the same to run as my 2.4 lpg Maverick. I find this quite alarming! It batters the Mavs economy on long trips, and uses a smidge more around town. But as an average it costs about the same. But what an enormous difference in motor between the G.C and Mav... you cant compare the two, different league for towing, cruising, performance, comfort, toys... I could go on!
I ALSO HAVE A VERY WHITE DOG :lol
BUT I always do my homework before buying any motor... I find out the usual problems that occur and then look at the cost to repair them. I know G.Cs have issues, and I made a calculated decision prior to buying it! I do expect something to go worng, but I have back up ready for when it does

Fourtrak - someone mentioned those being good engines, I had a good one a TDS Timberline, awesome motor, fastest 4x4 i've owned (yes quicker on acceleration and better handling than the G.C) never ever ever let me down or broke down or anything in 2 years of abuse. I only paid for service parts. It only had to go due to silly independant suspension restricting it off road
But then two lads in my other club had big problems, one has been through 3 engines than scrapped it, the other (forum owner) is currently on his 4th engine. When they do go its catastrophic!

Land-Rover - I adore them, the original 4x4 to me... but I simply cannot afford the unreliability and silly high purchase price the command. Its unreal how bad they are! A good friend bough a spanker last year with the new Transit engine in, he's spent more time on the road in a Freelander courtesy car then "big black" his nice new 90. He openly admits its shite too and his old "D reg" 90 2.5d was far more reliable. Sad that
Another English company gone to the dogs...

Pay and play days - WHO SAID PLAY AND PAY??? Who have you been talking too? Yes I see lots of breakages and damage done on such days, but only through driver inexperience/ignorance/error. Folk attacking obstacles with inferior vehicles and unproper kit are asking for damage & breakages... hence Cowm has a "green" section and a "red" section. I defy anyone to break something on the green route, step on the red... "red for danger folks"
Also the number of folk who do not get out and walk a section before driving... its common sense!



Think i've covered all the points that got me excited there!

Any chance of a hob-nob now Pete, took me a while to write all that!

 

[extreme-4x4]

some very good points there.... and most importantly the advise about snorkels and pay and play sites...

driver error. or not being equipped or going beyond the vehicles capabilities or not walking the course first. all amount to driver error, the truck cant be blamed its a machine

yes things wear or require servicing , maintenance BUT again if you dont, thats driver error too

 

[lacroupade]

some very good points there.... and most importantly the advise about snorkels and pay and play sites...

driver error. or not being equipped or going beyond the vehicles capabilities or not walking the course first. all amount to driver error, the truck cant be blamed its a machine

yes things wear or require servicing , maintenance BUT again if you dont, thats driver error too

Krist we aren't agreeing again are we????:doh

 

[extreme-4x4]

Krist we aren't agreeing again are we????:doh

paullllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy . paullllllllllllyyyyyyyyyy paullllllllllllyyyyyyyyy.

i always agree with you.... its far less effort to agree .

and i quite like ya.

any contractions yet ?????

 

[kbekl]

WOOOOOOOOOOW WHAT HAVE I MISSED HERE!!!!

FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN!!!! :lol


Karl - you aint ever going to win on a Nissan website! :lol I'd also look into Isuzu motors before bragging, theres a reason they are cheap mate - just like Mavs. But you are right, the 3.0 is known for the engine EXPLODING and the 3.1 it is said is the one to buy. As for the lotus suspension, it will be a little un-lotus like when carrying 2+ tons, is 15 years old and suffered 100,000 miles almost. They are good motors mate, I know a farmer that will buy nothing else but I would not start bragging about their mechanical reliability, thats tempting fate on a car that has dear parts to start with, let alone the fact its an import! They can be shocking for parts at times!
As for thinking you dont need a snorkel mate, I dont know what you've ben reading but disregard that info immediately! If your gonna go near ANY WATER AT ALL fit a bloody snorkel mate, you'll only end up with the same fate if you dont! the parts are cheaper than nissan from what i have seen, the lotus thing just makes me laugh as said on the other forum just bragging rights as no one know what the difference is lol,just had to put a new alternator in the bighorn as it was causing all sorts of problems with the heating and was quite reasonable £85 for a brand new one, snorkel wise i have been speaking to the owners and have stated i want to wade through water at around bumper level (about headlight level in mav) was told no problem just put a rubber mat over the grill due to the possition of the intake (next time we meet up you will see what i mean:thumbs

Bomb proof - Toyota Hi-lux 2.4 diesel non turbo. End of. The most reliable 4x4 ever produced. Fact. and w124 for rearwheel drive

Teranno / Maverick - I base my opinions and advise on personal experience. I've owned one, know a number of folk who have also owned one and my conclusion - I'd never buy another! And neither would they! But I do not doubt there are good and bad ones and we must have been unlucky.
I thought I was getting a good one, 104,000 miles and full service... nope it was a lemon! :doh

Taxis - who ever told you the taxis with the Nissan engine were reliable, i'd ask them again now a bit of time has passed by :lol My mate purposly bought the Chrysler engined TX1 due to all his mates having probs with the Nissan engine, and also performance and economy.

MPG - My 4.0 lpg Grand Cherry is costing around the same to run as my 2.4 lpg Maverick. I find this quite alarming! It batters the Mavs economy on long trips, and uses a smidge more around town. But as an average it costs about the same. But what an enormous difference in motor between the G.C and Mav... you cant compare the two, different league for towing, cruising, performance, comfort, toys... I could go on! makes sence the bigger the engine the less it has to work
I ALSO HAVE A VERY WHITE DOG :lolbut its very nice white dog lol
BUT I always do my homework before buying any motor... I find out the usual problems that occur and then look at the cost to repair them. I know G.Cs have issues, and I made a calculated decision prior to buying it! I do expect something to go worng, but I have back up ready for when it does i have also done this found out befor buying the auto box can be problematic if not serviced properly as well as the head gasket

Fourtrak - someone mentioned those being good engines, I had a good one a TDS Timberline, awesome motor, fastest 4x4 i've owned (yes quicker on acceleration and better handling than the G.C) never ever ever let me down or broke down or anything in 2 years of abuse. I only paid for service parts. It only had to go due to silly independant suspension restricting it off road
But then two lads in my other club had big problems, one has been through 3 engines than scrapped it, the other (forum owner) is currently on his 4th engine. When they do go its catastrophic!

Land-Rover - I adore them, the original 4x4 to me... but I simply cannot afford the unreliability and silly high purchase price the command. Its unreal how bad they are! A good friend bough a spanker last year with the new Transit engine in, he's spent more time on the road in a Freelander courtesy car then "big black" his nice new 90. He openly admits its shite too and his old "D reg" 90 2.5d was far more reliable. Sad that
Another English company gone to the dogs...

Pay and play days - WHO SAID PLAY AND PAY??? Who have you been talking too? Yes I see lots of breakages and damage done on such days, but only through driver inexperience/ignorance/error. Folk attacking obstacles with inferior vehicles and unproper kit are asking for damage & breakages... hence Cowm has a "green" section and a "red" section. I defy anyone to break something on the green route, step on the red... "red for danger folks"
Also the number of folk who do not get out and walk a section before driving... its common sense!

thie si no way i am going to walk some water just to see how deep it is lol i watch 4 cars go through that bit of water befor i went in and their front end didnt go in as dep as the mav's btu they didnt have the same over hang at the front that the mav did and that was my mistake, well actually a disco v8 got damaged on the green section at cowm released 2 tanks of lpg all over the floor :lol

Think i've covered all the points that got me excited there!

Any chance of a hob-nob now Pete, took me a while to write all that!

dont worry i have learnt my lesson reguards pay and play and if i dont feel like it or i dont know that it is shallow i wont be going through it

(wounder how far the isuzu would get through the sheep dip lol:augie:augie:augie)

think i may stay away from play days until i have the basics on the truck finished

i have been round to mark's with the gender confused isuzu called the bitch lol and he has had a look at her and said its in quite good condition for its age but i got the wrong engine i should have the v6 like his lol

i am starting to like the auto box after all it is just so much smoother than messing with clutches hows ur auto coming on joe got stuck in the mud since that day on the car park and roll on next year at black pool will have a lovely comfortable left leg lol

 

[lacroupade]

paullllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy . paullllllllllllyyyyyyyyyy paullllllllllllyyyyyyyyy.

i always agree with you.... its far less effort to agree .

and i quite like ya.

any contractions yet ?????

NO my waters are intact :augie