Bomb proof my @rse!!!

[kbekl]

Karl, This is the bottom line.

AT THE MOMENT yours is ok and the reviews on the Isuzu do say that there are issues with them

YOURS costs the same as a mav/terrano, but I personally wouldnt buy a motor without all its windows intact...:lol :lol

Motorway mpg but what about around town with that autobox going up and down all the time in traffic?????

Personal opinion as to whether we all travel at 70 mph, at 3000rpm, I have had 28 yrs experience at hgv driving and have seen many people sitting at 70 without a cat in hells chance of stopping in a emergency, ever thought of what the distance would be if you wanted to stop, especially considering the weight of the car in the first place.

Rear seats,well it aint a problem for me as theres only me and the missus.

Truth is its early days for the Isuzu, and they aint the cheapest motor to repair IF you have a problem, and if you were to do the same with the Isuzu as you did with the mav are you saying that the same wouldnt happen??
as I say bottom line is there aint a better motor pound 4 pound on all fronts better than the Mav / terranos, trust me if there was I would be driving it.

Oh and dont do what you did with the Mav and go and drown it, it only died due to piss poor preparation truth be known.

I guess youd at least add a snorkel next time out

Dont take this as a personel attack its just to show that we all aint Isuzu fans and are very protective of our choice of 4x4 :thumbs :thumbs

actually if i was to do the same again it wouldnt affect the isuzu due to location of air inlet as this is way back from the front also the front end is higher up

i better clear this up the maverick never actually drowned as such what happened was the front end when into water too steep and too deep as it came off a hill so nose first now if they had be sensible enough at nissan not to put the air intake directly behind the indicators then this wouldnt have happened, i thought it was further back than it was as where the first hole is in the inner wing thats where i thought the intake was but it isnt it is right behind the indicator

but then even with preparation side of things other than a snorkel the same thing would have happened, it was down to me not realizing how deep the initial entry was

now economy side i put in £20 and got 110 miles out of the mav and for the same £20 in the izuzu (bear in mind the fuel prices have gone up since i last put fuel in the mav) i get 170km that's mixed driving around Manchester

to me they are pretty even around town but come motorway the isuzu takes it as the mav at 70mph just drank fuel may have been a problem with my engine

parts price wise checked milners for prices as you will find the isuzu cheaper again ie cylinder head nissan £260 cylinder head isuzu £222 & clutch kit nissan £114.00 isuzu (ok mine dont have one lol) £94

dont know about reliability side of it

braking side of things i would beat the mav as i have abs and the mav didnt

saft side of it the isuzu is bigger than the mav is it stronger i dont know

i wouldnt be adding a snorkel to the isuzu as the water can be higher than in the mav


dont get me wrong i wasnt saying the trooper/bighorn was better that the t2 i was just saying that it makes life easier for me in the long run, trust me i dont take things to heart :thumbs:thumbs:thumbs

but i will maintain what i have said in my experience the mav terrano and the td27 engine is very far from the best engine available even with its full stamps by the company that makes the thing it has proven to be unreliable, also like to add it also needed a new alternator after 3mths of a new one being put on and that was from nissan and was an original part

 

[Adz]

whats your offer for it anyway adz?
you know the truck, after all it was yours before mine.
lots of new parts now :augie

PM sent

I don't know the truck as i never drove it & only owned it for a week...

That i went halfs on out of good faith...

 

[extreme-4x4]

i can t even be bothered to read the whole thread, its bound to be someone moaning because they have had bad luck.

no one could convince me to buy anything other than a t2.

this is based purelly on my experience with them

its floated in lakes

its driven up rivers
driven through mad baths

i have towed a car trailer with a r3m on it with my t2 and when the thermostat failed it blew every drop of water out , in the middle of no where .... the only way out with no rac cover was to drive it to the nearest tesco 7.5 miles away with not a drop of water in it . fully loaded towing probably 2 -2.5 tones

and not a problem

oh and to add it towed all that up proper welsh mountains

i wont buy anything else

 

[MontysMaverick]

Are rust buckets & money pits

Tell you what Adz your right there matey, I had a 90 defender ( I know it was when I was on medication from the doc for depression lol) and christ it took some feeding, crap mpg, slow, uncomfy, and rust like a fiat strada on overtime... then what happened, welll of course the medication worked and I saw the light and brought the Mav, as Briggie says on his sig "job sorted"

Now do I go back on the medication and see the light again and buy a ISUZU BIGHORN WITH SUPER DUPER LOTUS HANDLING :lol :lol :lol

Answers on a postcard to Dr Patel c/o of Cheddleton Mental institue Nr Leek Staffs

Cheers

 

[Adz]

Tell you what Adz your right there matey, I had a 90 defender ( I know it was when I was on medication from the doc for depression lol) and christ it took some feeding, crap mpg, slow, uncomfy, and rust like a fiat strada on overtime... then what happened, welll of course the medication worked and I saw the light and brought the Mav, as Briggie says on his sig "job sorted"

Now do I go back on the medication and see the light again and buy a ISUZU BIGHORN WITH SUPER DUPER LOTUS HANDLING :lol :lol :lol

Answers on a postcard to Dr Patel c/o of Cheddleton Mental institue Nr Leek Staffs

Cheers

:bow :thumbs :clap

 

[kbekl]

Now do I go back on the medication and see the light again and buy a ISUZU BIGHORN WITH SUPER DUPER LOTUS HANDLING :lol :lol :lol

Answers on a postcard to Dr Patel c/o of Cheddleton Mental institue Nr Leek Staffs

Cheers

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

:thumbs:thumbs

 

[MontysMaverick]

actually if i was to do the same again it wouldnt affect the isuzu due to location of air inlet as this is way back from the front also the front end is higher up

i better clear this up the maverick never actually drowned as such what happened was the front end when into water too steep and too deep as it came off a hill so nose first now if they had be sensible enough at nissan not to put the air intake directly behind the indicators then this wouldnt have happened, i thought it was further back than it was as where the first hole is in the inner wing thats where i thought the intake was but it isnt it is right behind the indicator

but then even with preparation side of things other than a snorkel the same thing would have happened, it was down to me not realizing how deep the initial entry was

now economy side i put in £20 and got 110 miles out of the mav and for the same £20 in the izuzu (bear in mind the fuel prices have gone up since i last put fuel in the mav) i get 170km that's mixed driving around Manchester

to me they are pretty even around town but come motorway the isuzu takes it as the mav at 70mph just drank fuel may have been a problem with my engine

parts price wise checked milners for prices as you will find the isuzu cheaper again ie cylinder head nissan £260 cylinder head isuzu £222 & clutch kit nissan £114.00 isuzu (ok mine dont have one lol) £94

dont know about reliability side of it

braking side of things i would beat the mav as i have abs and the mav didnt

saft side of it the isuzu is bigger than the mav is it stronger i dont know

i wouldnt be adding a snorkel to the isuzu as the water can be higher than in the mav


dont get me wrong i wasnt saying the trooper/bighorn was better that the t2 i was just saying that it makes life easier for me in the long run, trust me i dont take things to heart :thumbs:thumbs:thumbs

but i will maintain what i have said in my experience the mav terrano and the td27 engine is very far from the best engine available even with its full stamps by the company that makes the thing it has proven to be unreliable, also like to add it also needed a new alternator after 3mths of a new one being put on and that was from nissan and was an original part

Karl its pointless me saying anything, read my newer post put your answer on a postcard and send to the address listed, you may be able to convince yourself but you cant convince me matey, been around motors all me life and done 4x4 events to hillclimbs and its just wasted me trying to help and steer you in the right direction, I can see that but I did notice that you failed to answer the other quote which was that I wouldnt buy a car that didnt have all its windows, why ????? cause if the bloke cant be arsed to fit a window then he wont be bothered about if its got oil and water in it, again piss poor preparation results in piss poor performance.

 

[kbekl]

Karl its pointless me saying anything, read my newer post put your answer on a postcard and send to the address listed, you may be able to convince yourself but you cant convince me matey, been around motors all me life and done 4x4 events to hillclimbs and its just wasted me trying to help and steer you in the right direction, I can see that but I did notice that you failed to answer the other quote which was that I wouldnt buy a car that didnt have all its windows, why ????? cause if the bloke cant be arsed to fit a window then he wont be bothered about if its got oil and water in it, again piss poor preparation results in piss poor performance.

the window was replced with a bit of perspex due to the windows being factory tinted and you are not able to get the tint film for it amd he was waiting for a bighorn to become a breaker with the same tint :thumbs

already seen that mate seems that you are taking this personally and not too sure why, i havnt said the t2 across the range is crap i have only stated that my experience of one is poor

you tried to explain that the isuzu was more expensive to repair which i have sown to be incorrect, also that the isuzu is less reliable than the t2 again this i have shown to be incorrect due to the fact that the isuzu is older by a couple of months and has done 106000 miles with out the need for a new head gasket and it hasnt be that well maintained by last owner (at worst) where as the maverick was molly cuddled by the owners and had Full Nissan and Ford serive history and at 88000 miles the head gasket went also that their are cracks in the head as well but non serious ones

i havnt got a clue what the lotus handling package is but it is good for bragging rights lol:augie:augie:lol:lol:thumbs

i wont say go out and by a bighorn as that is personal preference but the maverick or t2 doesnt have anything over the bighorn even down to the lsd, apart from being lower to the ground and being smaller :thumb2:thumb2

 

[MontysMaverick]

the window was replced with a bit of perspex due to the windows being factory tinted and you are not able to get the tint film for it amd he was waiting for a bighorn to become a breaker with the same tint :thumbs

already seen that mate seems that you are taking this personally and not too sure why, i havnt said the t2 across the range is crap i have only stated that my experience of one is poor

you tried to explain that the isuzu was more expensive to repair which i have sown to be incorrect, also that the isuzu is less reliable than the t2 again this i have shown to be incorrect due to the fact that the isuzu is older by a couple of months and has done 106000 miles with out the need for a new head gasket and it hasnt be that well maintained by last owner (at worst) where as the maverick was molly cuddled by the owners and had Full Nissan and Ford serive history and at 88000 miles the head gasket went also that their are cracks in the head as well but non serious ones

i havnt got a clue what the lotus handling package is but it is good for bragging rights lol:augie:augie:lol:lol:thumbs

i wont say go out and by a bighorn as that is personal preference but the maverick or t2 doesnt have anything over the bighorn even down to the lsd, apart from being lower to the ground and being smaller :thumb2:thumb2

Karl, I cant make head nor tail of what your saying

The window can be replaced easily, and if these motors are so good then youll wait a long time for a motor to come in for breaking,surely.

No no I aint taking this personal at all, its just funny that people arre so fickle one day they love a mav and the next a isuzu but its a free country and you are welcome and privaleged to do that if you wish,

Head gaskets come and go and 9 times out of 10 are down to one thing and one thing only, now you should know by now what Im going to say yep, p,p,p results in p p p. lack of coolant or lack of responsability on the owners part for not looking after their 4x4,

I did say at the time that in my experience pay and plays soon turn into play and pay,

I will say this tho, "how many mav/terranos do you see on the hard shoulder"?????

OH and finally do I sound as If Ive been converted to buy anything other than a mav/terrano. nah

 

[MontysMaverick]

Karl, I cant make head nor tail of what your saying

The window can be replaced easily, and if these motors are so good then youll wait a long time for a motor to come in for breaking,surely.

No no I aint taking this personal at all, its just funny that people arre so fickle one day they love a mav and the next a isuzu but its a free country and you are welcome and privaleged to do that if you wish,

Head gaskets come and go and 9 times out of 10 are down to one thing and one thing only, now you should know by now what Im going to say yep, p,p,p results in p p p. lack of coolant or lack of responsability on the owners part for not looking after their 4x4,

I did say at the time that in my experience pay and plays soon turn into play and pay,

I will say this tho, "how many mav/terranos do you see on the hard shoulder"?????

OH and finally do I sound as If Ive been converted to buy anything other than a mav/terrano. nah

Oh and have you got a hand throttle, well I have and am proud of it warms the car up nicely on a frosty morning 1 click and 900 rpm and a nice warm heater while I have a cuppa :clap :clap :clap :clap

So we have it the mav/terrano wins by a hand throttle :thumbs :thumbs :thumbs

 

[briggie]

can we just agree to disagree ?..... shake hands

 

[MontysMaverick]

can we just agree to disagree ?..... shake hands

Its simple, put the kettle on and get the hob nobs out, I aint arguing Im simply on medication:lol :lol :lol :lol


and dying to go to bed and have nightmares, SORRY DREAMS about owning a ISUZU BIGHORN WITH SUPER DUPER LOTUS HANDLING :doh :doh :doh

:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

 

[kbekl]

it has got a hand trottle but i have heated seats so just a flick of a switch lol, i also have engine warm system where it shuts somthing off in the engine and allows the engine to warm up quicker on tick over + i have automated climate control so i dont have to mess with the dial to get a nice 20*c in the car

right the window problem i have been to 4 different places that tint windows and they carnt match the colour as it is almost bronze but has alot more yellow in it, and now you see my point wth so little in the way of breaking it is proving difficult to match the window

i have had so many different cars over the years and i loved all of them except a 214 and the escort

i am not trying to sell the isuzu at all obviously it all speaks for its self in reality

 

[MontysMaverick]

it has got a hand trottle but i have heated seats so just a flick of a switch lol, i also have engine warm system where it shuts somthing off in the engine and allows the engine to warm up quicker on tick over + i have automated climate control so i dont have to mess with the dial to get a nice 20*c in the car

right the window problem i have been to 4 different places that tint windows and they carnt match the colour as it is almost bronze but has alot more yellow in it, and now you see my point wth so little in the way of breaking it is proving difficult to match the window

i have had so many different cars over the years and i loved all of them except a 214 and the escort

i am not trying to sell the isuzu at all obviously it all speaks for its self in reality

See pete, I try to be fair and ask for a hobnob and this is what I get in return,


Karl,


IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THIS CAR OF YOURS WONT DO OR ARE YOU JUST TAKING THE PISS,

Are you sure its Isuzu and not NASA as reading this lot youve wrote on this thread it sounds as if

A) We are all missing out

and

B) Whens the next launch date.... dont tell me its already got some programmed data installed and flys itself to the moon and back on 6 pence and a packet of crisps worth of juice.

Go on Im sold Ill have one :bow :bow :bow

 

[geoffdown]

See pete, I try to be fair and ask for a hobnob and this is what I get in return,


Karl,


IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THIS CAR OF YOURS WONT DO OR ARE YOU JUST TAKING THE PISS,

Are you sure its Isuzu and not NASA as reading this lot youve wrote on this thread it sounds as if

A) We are all missing out

and

B) Whens the next launch date.... dont tell me its already got some programmed data installed and flys itself to the moon and back on 6 pence and a packet of crisps worth of juice.

Go on Im sold Ill have one :bow :bow :bow

the way u sell that i will have 2:lol:lol

but karl the terrano has the same device to alloow the engine to heat up quicker its called a therostat :doh:lol:lol:lol:lol and my terrano has heated seats tooo and last but not least not many bighorns in breakers as not many over in this country compare to the over running of the mav/terrano fair point so might not be down to relibty :doh:naughty

 

[briggie]

rod , line , hook ........ spring to mind

 

[geoffdown]

sorry for the bad spelling its late im off to bed

 

[MontysMaverick]

the way u sell that i will have 2:lol:lol

but karl the terrano has the same device to alloow the engine to heat up quicker its called a therostat :doh:lol:lol:lol:lol and my terrano has heated seats tooo and last but not least not many bighorns in breakers as not many over in this country compare to the over running of the mav/terrano fair point so might not be down to relibty :doh:naughty

Oh for gods sake dont encourage him we will be here all night at this rate,

Im sold on em Ihave have 2/3/4 or as many as anyone can supply, its fantastic better than sliced bread, even with jam on

Cant we change the name of the forum to the isuzu appreciation society

Anyone want to by a Maverick 1 lousy owner

 

[MontysMaverick]

rod , line , hook ........ spring to mind

Anyone got a landing net Ive got a whopper on here :lol :lol :lol

 

[kbekl]

See pete, I try to be fair and ask for a hobnob and this is what I get in return,


Karl,


IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THIS CAR OF YOURS WONT DO OR ARE YOU JUST TAKING THE PISS,

Are you sure its Isuzu and not NASA as reading this lot youve wrote on this thread it sounds as if

A) We are all missing out

and

B) Whens the next launch date.... dont tell me its already got some programmed data installed and flys itself to the moon and back on 6 pence and a packet of crisps worth of juice.

Go on Im sold Ill have one :bow :bow :bow

these are what it has and a few more bits on top like electric leather seats

just for reference some reviews :augie:augie:augie:augie

http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews101010.html

http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews6021.html