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Does any one remebers the film local hero where a potentialy millionare fisherman decides not to go for a bentley because the boot was too small for more than a couple of fish crates :lol

Go on then folks,not quite the same level but if you wanted a 4x4 to tow with and use as a day to day car and dog transporter what would you spend your £20k on?
 
If I had 20k to throw at a motor it would have to be a used Volvo or Scania 6 X4 tractor, both with sleeper cabs and the load space on the what was fifth wheel position, could be made into whatever you needed, pulling 30 odd tonnes I could always better 7 mpg so tractor only must do 20 odd and you have soo much power, one lift up rear axle and 4 wheel drive if you ever needed it, and first class comfort, together with an excellent driving position, some supermarket car parks could be a bit of a pain but overall my kind of motor, Rick
 
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Am now wrestling with a similar dilemna, I need to move from two cars to a single vehicle when I retire in July. Wife has a Peugeot 207,and I have a 3.0 autobox Terrano,and we tow a 1.6 tonne laden caravan. Terrano is too expensive to travel all the miles we do visiting kids and family,but remains a tremendous towcar.The 207 is not capable of towing much more than a trailer tent, although it currently averages circa 50mpg as a runaround.
I am looking for a single vehicle to replace both. I would ideally like to stay with a 4x4 that can return economical mpg. At the moment I am thinking a Nissan X Trail, but there are so many other good motors in this sector that I am going dizzy with the different choices.Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Mike.p
 
mikep said:
Am now wrestling with a similar dilemna, I need to move from two cars to a single vehicle when I retire in July. Wife has a Peugeot 207,and I have a 3.0 autobox Terrano,and we tow a 1.6 tonne laden caravan. Terrano is too expensive to travel all the miles we do visiting kids and family,but remains a tremendous towcar.The 207 is not capable of towing much more than a trailer tent, although it currently averages circa 50mpg as a runaround.
I am looking for a single vehicle to replace both. I would ideally like to stay with a 4x4 that can return economical mpg. At the moment I am thinking a Nissan X Trail, but there are so many other good motors in this sector that I am going dizzy with the different choices.Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Mike.p
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why change?


I retire end of June. We will keep a 4x4 as the big car and use it on days we need to aka towing and carying lots of stuff. The rest of the time we will use my wifes car which is a Seat Leon ecomotive and easily does over 50 to the gallon with zero road tax.
best of both worlds :thumb2
 
daved said:
why change?


I retire end of June. We will keep a 4x4 as the big car and use it on days we need to aka towing and carying lots of stuff. The rest of the time we will use my wifes car which is a Seat Leon ecomotive and easily does over 50 to the gallon with zero road tax.
best of both worlds :thumb2
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If it were my choice, I would keep the jeep especially as you don't plan to use it much and keep your cash. Spend it on buying Deb's a new motor when you've worn hers out :thumbs
 
PLANK said:
If it were my choice, I would keep the jeep especially as you don't plan to use it much and keep your cash. Spend it on buying Deb's a new motor when you've worn hers out :thumbs
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Theoretically a good scheme but errrrrr.................no lmao.

Ps Debs says she prefers diamonds :eek:
 
Well I guess you need to check the MPG's of what ever you look at.. consider the car tax too!

Also a good guide is http://whattowcar.com/ for working out what will comfortable and more importantly safely tow your caravan.

We recently got a Freelander TD4 for the Mrs.. but oddly the new to me Pathfinder is as economical, if not better :nenau

The other thing is reliability as well... which is why I sold my Range Rover.. the cost of keeping it mint was getting to be a joke, £4500 in the last 18months which included, reconditioned Injectors, Auto box , Sat Nav unit and Turbo (which I changed myself in the end as Landrover prices would have sent me over the edge!)
 
Nice find Plank, always fancied doing a camper van conversion on one of those.

Solarman, I bow to your knowledge but didnt realise that a double drive rear
bogie of a 6x4 tractor could have a lift axle too. 20mpg good luck but what a
toy could do a nice pickup body or van on back end like the showmen do.

cant see where you save selling a good old thirsty truck as in suv and then
spend 10s of thousands on another to get a few mpg back. my approach
remains the troll is old, well at 10/11 years old isnt that old but is paid for
technically and returns 22mpg whatever we do. what else will do what it can
and offer me much (much) more in the mpg department. guess I've followed
my parents example, they always went for a good old luxery motor for towing
and suffered the mpg, friends of their extolled virtues of some frankly awful little
tin boxes with no trim or comfort, paid out lots more on the new reg that august
got a bit more mpg but in few years were left with a worthless shed yet then
saying how nice our old granada or whatever was....
 
elpeede said:
Well I guess you need to check the MPG's of what ever you look at.. consider the car tax too!

Also a good guide is http://whattowcar.com/ for working out what will comfortable and more importantly safely tow your caravan.

We recently got a Freelander TD4 for the Mrs.. but oddly the new to me Pathfinder is as economical, if not better :nenau

The other thing is reliability as well... which is why I sold my Range Rover.. the cost of keeping it mint was getting to be a joke, £4500 in the last 18months which included, reconditioned Injectors, Auto box , Sat Nav unit and Turbo (which I changed myself in the end as Landrover prices would have sent me over the edge!)
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All the fuel consumptions are much of a muchness......................high!!!!! so not too concerned.

More importantly is the bit you just cant put your finger on. Something like an xtrail or a santa fe (auto) in theory is a reasonably good match for our van but its up towards the top of their limits. Put a Grand Cherokee/disco/rangie/land cruiser in front of the van and although with a 1.8 t van their 3.5 t capabilty is academic in many respects, it does provide that tad extra. Thats wht Ive got and want to maintain :thumb2:thumb2

How old was your Rangie? (were the major faults all on one or across the collection?) the build quality seems to vary year to year. Something around the P to W reg I wouldnt have touched in my worst nightmares but the ones that aren now around 4 year old seem to fair better :nenau I dont know. All info cheerfully appreciated :thumb2
 
have to agree wouldnt want to go right done to a crv/xtrail/freelander with a
6 metre twin axle if technically capable, dont feel they would represent all
weather outfits. really the terrano2 was as small as would want with our van
and glad now got the extra anchor weight of the troll.

yep saw a honda crv 4x with a 20' t/a on motorway other day must be well over
85% recommended ration, think t2 was about 90% but felt experienced to take
it on. mind with trol its down to about 70% lol
 
I agree.

I honestly dont know(cant remember:doh) what the weight ratio is for us with our set up but although its the biggest van Ive owned its also the easiest tow :thumb2

I remember when i was looking at it i checked on that match site and it said something about being first to the top of the hill and staying there in all conditions :lol:lol:lol

I may not change the car yet but on the other hand :augie

Im waiting to see the update on rangies from the owner , i honestly thought theyd sussed their big reliability problems :nenau
 
Thomas-the-Terrano2 said:
Solarman, I bow to your knowledge but didnt realise that a double drive rear
bogie of a 6x4 tractor could have a lift axle too. 20mpg good luck but what a
toy could do a nice pickup body or van on back end like the showmen do.

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Only ever saw one, it was a heavy haulage Volvo (I think) and the lift axle was the rear and wide spread, it must have been a one off special and must have had a transfer box between the two but it had hub reduction thats how I knew the raised axle was a drive axle, another good one I came across was a Scania with 480 bhp following me in a Rover SDI up hill and I could not go quick enough, so I let him pass and struggled to keep up, when we crested the top I thought we have several miles down hill now, he has to slow down or cook his brakes, how wrong I was brake lights were coming on regular but he flew down and pulled into a truck stop and the driver was long gone by the time I got there, how did he do it? he had two Telma retarders, one on the tractor and one on a drive axle on the semi trailer, what an outfit, Rick
 
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