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Wheelie

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I'm thinking of going on a 4x4 adventure holiday in the trol but I keep reading the 3.0 ltr Di engine is dismal and will eventually give up the ghost. Are they really that bad, I've just been scared into getting a turbo gauge and egt gauge for piece of mind, have I wasted my money and do I dare take it off road for 12 days
Thanks
 
I'm thinking of going on a 4x4 adventure holiday in the trol but I keep reading the 3.0 ltr Di engine is dismal and will eventually give up the ghost. Are they really that bad, I've just been scared into getting a turbo gauge and egt gauge for piece of mind, have I wasted my money and do I dare take it off road for 12 days
Thanks

Expensive bit of kit to replace too, can't knock the reliability of the 2.7TDi :naughty
 
No problems pal. They were ironed out in the earlier 3ltr's. Treat it to a good service and get out there :thumbs
 
From memory your Trol is a 2004 like mine, like Blocky says it was the earlier 3.0s that had issues.

The turbo and egt gauges won't go wrong but remember all they'll do is let you keep an eye on things - they won't prevent anything :nenau

The 3.0 gets a bad rep but that is based the bad designed early engines and remember people usually only give bad reviews!

Keep her serviced properly and she'll be fine. If you're still concerned you can do more like fitting a catch can and either A) fitting dawes and needle valves or B) wind out the actuator stop on the VNT turbo (that's what I did), to let you blank the EGR. Check out my project thread.

Even before I had done any of the above, I would have had no worries with the 3.0 engine as I made sure she was serviced etc.

As for taking her offroad for 12 days, how many days have you had from her so far without problems? I'm guessing it's more than 12 days! :nenau
 
Dont worry, the 2.8's have there own problems :surrender

You will be absolutely fine with that, serviced regular as said and it will serve you well.
 
I would take my Trol anywhere.
Had her 6 years and still in the honeymoon stage.
She's taken us all round Scotland, lakes and peaks on our 3500mile trip last year. Towing a 26' caravan and 6 people over 26 days and that included laneing (caravan uncoupled)
This year she took us on a 5000mile round trip to Nordkapp in February, just upgraded the antifreeze. Since then she's towed the caravan for another 5000 miles.
I would think nothing of jumping in her and driving to the Bering sea or Singapore, it's just the legal side that's a bitch.
Just go for it :thumbs
Happy Troling. :thumb2
 
Thanks for the replys. I bought the gauges just to keep an eye on things, better safe than sorry, as soon as I bought her I had all the fluids change with the exception of the atf as it was clear pink with no burnt smell and it has a service history, I probably change oils more than I need so I guess I'll be good to go then
 
Mine had an engine rebuild before i bought it 2000 model cost around £3500... Personally i would be more worried about hidden rust.. Ive sold mine now but still would have one tomorrow, however it was just too big and unpractical for me... Great trucks, you have two choices, stop reading and worrying about what you have read and just use it... Or sell and buy something inferior....
 
Mine had an engine rebuild before i bought it 2000 model cost around £3500... Personally i would be more worried about hidden rust.. Ive sold mine now but still would have one tomorrow, however it was just too big and unpractical for me... Great trucks, you have two choices, stop reading and worrying about what you have read and just use it... Or sell and buy something inferior....
I'm keeping defo
 
As said above really. Regular TLC and she'll love ya back!
The ZD30 is perfectly balanced for the bulk of the Patrol especially on the longer trips you're planning giving great performance and economy.:thumb2
This is a pic taken from mine at 9500ft in the Alps between France and Italy.
She didn't miss a beat.....enjoy your trip.
 

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So, anyone fancy fitting my exhaust temp sensor, don't all rush at once lol:thumbs
 
Can I ask why you want an exhaust temp sensor? Other than knowing what the temp of your exhaust is:nenau
 
Can I ask why you want an exhaust temp sensor? Other than knowing what the temp of your exhaust is:nenau

An EGT gauge will quickly tell you of potential engine damage hopefully before it happens. The one sure way of killing a diesel is having excessive exhaust gas temperatures.

An EGT gauge is like a fancy air/fuel mixture gauge, where it tells you that the richer the air/fuel mixture the higher the temperature.

Its an indication of how hot the combustion process is in the cylinders, so lower EGT's the better.
 
Ok. :confused: If you were running a heavily modified engine then maybe it could be handy to know or keep an eye on. If your engine is standard like most are, because there's not much you can do to a 3ltr, then I don't really see the need. Except for bling purposes:cool:
 
Can I ask why you want an exhaust temp sensor? Other than knowing what the temp of your exhaust is:nenau
That's exactly it, apparently it's to do with the egr valve, once you've got your baseline of temp from normal running you can tell via the temp gauge if your exhaust is outside normal limits and apparently is a good indicator for knowing if you are about to do damage to the engine, I'll see if I can find the write up and post it


Advantages of A Good EGT Kit.

An EGT (or exhaust gas temperature) is installed in many cars, particularly turbo equipped cars, in order to monitor these temperatures which gives us a good idea of the air-fuel ratio of an internal combustion engine. It's often seen various diesel-run vehicles. A good EGT kit can require a small monetary investment and will take some effort to install, but it is well worth the time and money. There are many advantages to using these kits to get an accurate glimpse of what's going on in your engine, and here are a few:


ENGINE SAFETY

Monitoring your EGT levels and getting a good read on your air to fuel ratio is important for the safety of operating your vehicle. With a good air to fuel ratio you can rely on lower, but more specifically safer temperatures. With less stable ratios, however,temperatures can arise to dangerous levels leading to the possibly of engine failure, spark plug fouling, and other maintenance and safety issues.
FINE TUNING YOUR ENGINE

Monitoring your engine temperatures and ratios can also play a vital role in how efficiently as well as how safely your engine operates. When used in conjunction with a wide-band oxygen censor, a good EGT gauge can often help drivers figure out how to 'lean' the engine ratios in order to safely raise the temperature of the engine. This allows for more speed and more power in the engine, but at a significantly smaller risk.
EASY TO INSTALL

Although there is some fine tuning required based on what kind of engine you have equipped, what kind of conditions you'll be driving, and so on, for the most part the installation of an EGT gauge is relatively simple. Because of this it makes it both easier to do yourself, and cheaper to have someone else do it for you.
FUEL EFFICIENCY

Since the EGT Gauge will help you fine tune your engine as well as monitoring air to fuel ratios, it also allows for your engine with proper tuning to operate more efficiently in regards to fuel usage. This is especially for longer trips either on the road or on circular tracks. This not only saves fuel and money, but time as well since you won't have to make as many stops to refill your tank.
Most drivers understand that it's important to know your car. Know how it drives, how it runs, and how it needs to be taken care of. Looking under the hood can only tell you so much, and you don't always have the time to make that stop when its most needed. An EGT gauge kit might not be all your car needs but it is a leap in the right direction toward knowing your car and how to make it work best for you.
 
A lot of the Aussies fit EGT gauges to their 3.0 Trols and I can understand the reassurance it gives but tbh I think a lot have a mistrust due to the issues with the early engines (Trols are so popular over there there'll have been a lot affected by the bad engines).

Also UK Trols have an exhaust gas cooler which was never fitted to the Aussie Trols so we have cooler EGT from the outset.

Like I said, I can understand the reassurance it gives but after over 3 years I trust my Trol and my 3.0 - bear in mind the 3.0 peculiarities and they'll do you proud :thumbs (feverishly touches wood! :eek:)
 
Ok. :confused: If you were running a heavily modified engine then maybe it could be handy to know or keep an eye on. If your engine is standard like most are, because there's not much you can do to a 3ltr, then I don't really see the need. Except for bling purposes:cool:

When you put your engine under stress Ie towing a caravan the exhaust gas will be hotter therefore worse for your engine it's just another way to maintain a healthier engine, you change your oil regularly so why not check that your temperatures are as they should be
 

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