Veg Oil

[jace]

wonder what the coffee machine filters go down to?

 

[bigjim]

I think that you can buy canester type with housings like on your car put these in series and pump through them it should do the job :?:

 

[Guest]

I just rechecked and this is what I found:

Clean: There shouldn't be any bits in your oil. Diesel is particle-free down to 25 microns, so if you are using waste oil, get a 25 micron filter and pass the oil through that. Discard the gack. Most food oils are filtered and just fine, but you will need to avoid those bitty, murky, tasty first-pressing olive oils. They're way too expensive to burn, anyway!

I got my information from here: http://www.ravenfamily.org/andyg/vegoil.htm so if 5 microns is very small what is 25 microns? 8O 8O

 

[rustic]

A micron is one millionth of a metre.
Or 1 thousandth of a milimetre (as there are 1000 mm in 1m)

So 5 microns is VERY small, and 25 microns is 5 times bigger.
The problem with a 5 micron filter, is that it will clogg quickly, you will need a coarser filter in front to get rid of the bigger particles.
And an even coarse strainer to get rid of the bones :lol: :lol:

To understand size...
Cigarette smoke particles are very small approx 1/3 of a micron.

 

[jace]

if u google it it fetches up water purifier filters so like you say passing oil through would be slow and itd clog real quick! there was some lads in kenilworth who had 45gallon drums at different heights on pallets with outlet tap about 6" up drum used to let settle drain into next through filter then do same couple times gues filters got gradualy finer an finer

 

[judoleigh]

vegetable oil be it sunflower/rapeseed new or recycled has a nasty habit of cleaning your fuel tank out of any old muck you have in there right into your filters,it also has a tendency to attract water so if your motor starts to get sluggish its time to change that filter.Also after speaking to a customer i had a delivery to the other day you may have troubles with fuel lines starting to deteriorate internally ending up with fuel lines splitting,but for the price of a fuel filter and possibly new fuel lines its worth having a go at.

 

[Terranosaurus]

vegetable oil be it sunflower/rapeseed new or recycled has a nasty habit of cleaning your fuel tank out of any old muck you have in there right into your filters,it also has a tendency to attract water so if your motor starts to get sluggish its time to change that filter.Also after speaking to a customer i had a delivery to the other day you may have troubles with fuel lines starting to deteriorate internally ending up with fuel lines splitting,but for the price of a fuel filter and possibly new fuel lines its worth having a go at.

Most of that applies to used not SVO. The cookin process breaks the oils down into fatty acids which attack things.


As well as filtering the oil you need to remove the water content, to do this you need to bring it up to about 70 degrees C and then it will separate out.

Between the "drying", settling and filtering ect you'll have a lot of fuel "in process" at anyone time, you'll end up needing at least half a domestic garage put over to fuel production which is one of the reasons I didn't bother. The other is sourcing the used oil in the first place, problem is theres now a bit of competition for the stuff and chip shops etc want someone who will reliably take theres away everytime they have enough to get rid of, they don't want someone who just takes it when they want some, so the commercial bio-fuel producers are ok they can do that but the rest of us can't.

On another tack, it was a reasonably cold night last night round here and whilst the van started up ok it was a bit smokey but ran. I didn't have enough veg so was going to the gaage next door for some dino diesel. When I pulled up she wouldn't switch off. Turned and even removed the key and just kept running, I assume the thicker oil, especially as still cold was preventing the shut off valve from closing - something to think about.

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

COLD WEATHER IS COMING! try putting a litre of veg oil in the fridge over night and look again in the morning!

yes you have a lump of lard! if that happend in your tank you are going no where, or worse still your fuel pipes pump and injectors!

perhaps better to mis it 50/50 now winter is comin on!

does anyone have a decent link to the new rules on veg oil as fuel?

 

[Terranosaurus]

Think THIS is it but my version of Adobe reader has just packed up so can't check.

 

[Deleted Member S]

Thats working fine HB :smile: with Adobe reader 8.1 I think it is I have :roll:

 

[iandouglas]

VEG OIL////heated fuel filter

HI.
can you remember me putting a post up regarding 6 x 25ltr veg oil cans left at side of a layby. some lorry had had its tank filled with the stuff.
my question is can we get hold of the stuff from( trade warehouses).
surly if we can get this it will be cheaper .

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heated fuel filter.
PLANK pointed this out to me at last years rally
my terrano has one in the top of the filter housing two cables come out of it. red and black.
has it been fitted to all of them?.
this should help to run veg oil through filter.
rgds.iandouglas

 

[JonathanM]

vegetable oil be it sunflower/rapeseed new or recycled has a nasty habit of cleaning your fuel tank out of any old muck you have in there right into your filters,it also has a tendency to attract water so if your motor starts to get sluggish its time to change that filter.Also after speaking to a customer i had a delivery to the other day you may have troubles with fuel lines starting to deteriorate internally ending up with fuel lines splitting,but for the price of a fuel filter and possibly new fuel lines its worth having a go at.

Most of that applies to used not SVO. The cookin process breaks the oils down into fatty acids which attack things.


As well as filtering the oil you need to remove the water content, to do this you need to bring it up to about 70 degrees C and then it will separate out.

Between the "drying", settling and filtering ect you'll have a lot of fuel "in process" at anyone time, you'll end up needing at least half a domestic garage put over to fuel production which is one of the reasons I didn't bother. The other is sourcing the used oil in the first place, problem is theres now a bit of competition for the stuff and chip shops etc want someone who will reliably take theres away everytime they have enough to get rid of, they don't want someone who just takes it when they want some, so the commercial bio-fuel producers are ok they can do that but the rest of us can't.

On another tack, it was a reasonably cold night last night round here and whilst the van started up ok it was a bit smokey but ran. I didn't have enough veg so was going to the gaage next door for some dino diesel. When I pulled up she wouldn't switch off. Turned and even removed the key and just kept running, I assume the thicker oil, especially as still cold was preventing the shut off valve from closing - something to think about.

Sounds likely, just stall it! I ran an old peugeot 305 with a knackered stop solenoid and had to stall it whenever I wanted to leave it anywhere!!

 

[Terranosaurus]

vegetable oil be it sunflower/rapeseed new or recycled has a nasty habit of cleaning your fuel tank out of any old muck you have in there right into your filters,it also has a tendency to attract water so if your motor starts to get sluggish its time to change that filter.Also after speaking to a customer i had a delivery to the other day you may have troubles with fuel lines starting to deteriorate internally ending up with fuel lines splitting,but for the price of a fuel filter and possibly new fuel lines its worth having a go at.

Most of that applies to used not SVO. The cookin process breaks the oils down into fatty acids which attack things.


As well as filtering the oil you need to remove the water content, to do this you need to bring it up to about 70 degrees C and then it will separate out.

Between the "drying", settling and filtering ect you'll have a lot of fuel "in process" at anyone time, you'll end up needing at least half a domestic garage put over to fuel production which is one of the reasons I didn't bother. The other is sourcing the used oil in the first place, problem is theres now a bit of competition for the stuff and chip shops etc want someone who will reliably take theres away everytime they have enough to get rid of, they don't want someone who just takes it when they want some, so the commercial bio-fuel producers are ok they can do that but the rest of us can't.

On another tack, it was a reasonably cold night last night round here and whilst the van started up ok it was a bit smokey but ran. I didn't have enough veg so was going to the gaage next door for some dino diesel. When I pulled up she wouldn't switch off. Turned and even removed the key and just kept running, I assume the thicker oil, especially as still cold was preventing the shut off valve from closing - something to think about.

Sounds likely, just stall it! I ran an old peugeot 305 with a knackered stop solenoid and had to stall it whenever I wanted to leave it anywhere!!

Knocked it off again on the M1 in queue and it worked fine then and for the rest of the day.

 

[Paul]

Been using oil from Asda for the last couple of weeks only thing I have found is that I get puffs of blue smoke when I fire her up.

Apart from that.. Kids chasing us up the street asking for CHIPS!! -rotfl-

Sorry had a drink!

 

[KillerPete]

Paul, your suppose to put in your tank, not drink it :lol: :lol:

Anyway just to check somthing, if I get cooking oil from Aldi or Asda etc I mix it in my tank. I do not have to refine it or filter it or do anything to it only drink it......sorry.....put it my tank and run on it??????

Pete.

 

[jace]

new oils ok jims being tight again and thinking local chippy will love him if he takes old oil away,as with all these things get on bandwagon asap before everyone cottons on an asda bung prices up

 

[Paul]

Paul, your suppose to put in your tank, not drink it :lol: :lol:

Anyway just to check somthing, if I get cooking oil from Aldi or Asda etc I mix it in my tank. I do not have to refine it or filter it or do anything to it only drink it......sorry.....put it my tank and run on it??????

Pete.

Thanks Pete!! -rotfl-

All I have been doing is throwing it in the tank in the carpark then driving home... Selling chips on the way!! :lol:

 

[Deleted Member S]

Apart from that.. Kids chasing us up the street asking for CHIPS!! -rotfl-
Sorry had a drink!

Are you saying paul you've built the 1st maverick burger van -rotfl- -rotfl- In that case i'll have 3 cheese burgers & a portion of chips please with S&V -rotfl- -rotfl- Oh do you deliver :roll:

Sorry I had some of that funny pop aswell :roll: :roll:

 

[Paul]

Apart from that.. Kids chasing us up the street asking for CHIPS!! -rotfl-
Sorry had a drink!

Are you saying paul you've built the 1st maverick burger van -rotfl- -rotfl- In that case i'll have 3 cheese burgers & a portion of chips please with S&V -rotfl- -rotfl- Oh do you deliver :roll:

Sorry I had some of that funny pop aswell :roll: :roll:

Well we deliver :lol: but it's 1 litre of cooking oil a mile.. :smile:

 

[iandouglas]

veg oil

rgds and two bergers pleasei.
DOES THIS MEEN WE GET ON SITE CATERING WHEN WE GO GREEN LANING WITH ANDY AKA CHIPANDISCO.