Turbo Fuel Savers for petrol or diesel vehicles

[andian61]

Has anyone tried one of these fuel savers bought one a good few months ago and instantly noticed an increase in power and consequently increased fuel economy getting a higher gear quicker (as long as you dont put ur foot down more. This gagdet is made of aluminium and fits into the air filter tube and is shaped so as to spin the air as it enters the air meter box. Consequently I have fitted one to all our vehicles my Mrs and daughters and also my Dads (mitsubish pajero diesel oops swearing he now loves his new feel car) and my brothers car as well. Anyone got any comments on this or if anyone interested in how to get one contact me. Andy

 

[andrewk]

Nope, I haven't heard of that and haven't tried one. I worry that many of these devices are snake oil. If the one that you have really works then I'd bet that everyone on the forum would be interested.

Where on the internet can I find details?

Cheers
Andrew

 

[Deleted Member]

Is this Gadget the same as the Hi-Clone??

 

[andrewk]

Is this Gadget the same as the Hi-Clone??

I wasn't aware of the Hi-Clone either. My bet is that under controlled testing, they'd turn out to be snake oil too. Even if air swirl were desirable, wouldn't the effect of the Hi-Clone (or other equivalent) be negated by the turbo in any turbo-diesel engine?

Cheers
Andrew

 

[mont]

Hi I have fitted hiclones and when I tow the caravan I dont get black sut on the corner anymore. You can call it snake oil if you wish but results speak louder than words. ps I dont work for hiclone .

 

[andian61]

Turbo Fuel saver

Hey as far as I am concerned not snake oil and on the turbo diesel it is fitted after the turbo so creates same effect as petrol engine. Their are a number of driving instructors and others local to me with them fitted who have diesel injection, turbo diesels and petrol engines who cannot get over the difference these devices have made. The driving instructors who have them fitted say they have seen an improvement of on average 6 mpg showing on their computers from 53 mpg to 59 mpg. It also does not follow that the higher the original mpg the higher the saving as on my Terrano I am finding on average an improvement of 5 mpg around town. Like I said on previous post my dads Pajero turbo diesel has seen a greatly improved performance and mpg benefiting I believe through a cleaner burning of fuel as it has done well over 100,000 miles. So if anyone is interested email me on [email protected] for more information.

 

[steveloft]

This is starting to look suspiciously like one of those "I found this great web site..." posts.

If you sell the things, why not be up front about it?

Steve

 

[NEDDY]

Turbo feul savers

This is starting to look suspiciously like one of those "I found this great web site..." posts.

If you sell the things, why not be up front about it?

Steve

There somthing fishy with this story me thinks

 

[andian61]

update re Fuel savers

it is very similar to the hiclone as described here but the ones I have purchased are from a manufacturer in USA. However the result is the same as outlined on this page. . Please love to hear comments on this subject whatever the contribution may be. Cheers Andy http://www.4x4web.co.uk/4x4-equipment-tests.html

 

[andian61]

Sorry guys

am simply suggesting something that may be of interest genuinely to members especially with the price of fuel. Well as per usual the great british public very sceptical looking for the worst in people. Only to be expected I suppose. Andy

 

[steveloft]

Sorry, thought you were selling them, while making it look like you were just a satisfied customer.

This must not be you, then:

http://www.iswap.co.uk/search/item.asp?id=17081

Steve

 

[Deleted Member S]

From that link you posted they were on about Hiclones & a few members have fitted them & love them :smile: Are you saying you have fitted Hiclones or another type :? :?: They are selling a so called copy on ebay (link below) but have heard they just make a whistling noise & thats it :roll:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fuel-Intake-G...36|39:1|66:2|65:12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

 

[andrewk]

Re: update re Fuel savers

it is very similar to the hiclone as described here but the ones I have purchased are from a manufacturer in USA. However the result is the same as outlined on this page.

If the vehicle driver knows that some fuel saving device has been fitted, the results of testing are meaningless. Simply knowing that the device has been fitted will affect his driving and hence fuel consumption.

Until such time as blind tests repeatably show a fuel saving, then in my book devices like this are snake oil. If you have access to the results of such blind testing for the device you are promoting, then I'm interested. I think though that I'd place a farm bet bet that either they haven't been carried out at all or alternatively if they have, that they show an insignificant, zero or negative fuel saving.

Cheers
Andrew

 

[andian61]

Hi Sweety

Yes thats the ones I have bought and used and returning the results mentioned. The best way I can describe it is that you don't have to put your foot down as much when setting off and to reach the speeds as necessary. Thus saving fuel. Thanks for finding the ebay link couldn't locate it before. Not had any whistling noises from them at all lol.

 

[andian61]

Andrewk

Can you argue with an emission test showing a vast improvement or the computer giving fuel consumption figures. The driving instructor I know has told me that the comsumption figure has been showing the same average since he bought it and has only gone up since fitting this device very coincidental. The pupils he has are not driving with the knowledge they have a fuel saver fitted hence not changing driving style to suit. Anyway I know its hard to believe and like me initially thought it hard to believe but thought id give it a go. Their have also been some rolling road tests done showing increase of power to wheels as well.

 

[Deleted Member S]

Don't you have to bend the fins over yourself :?: so in a way you could resduce the air flow by bending them to far :? TBH you could make one up from an old coke can or bean tin & save yourself even more money :roll: I might even try it :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[andrewk]

Re: Andrewk

Can you argue with an emission test showing a vast improvement

The results of emission tests, as I'm sure you well know, partly depend upon how the vehicle has been driven prior to the test. It's well known that a quick blast along the motorway can improve MOT emission test results.

I'd maybe be impressed if the vehicle had an MOT emission test with the device fitted and then immediately repeated with the device removed. If the result of the second test worsened then it could reasonably be argued that the device affected the result. I'll bet they didn't do that though, did they?

The driving instructor I know has told me that the comsumption figure has been showing the same average since he bought it and has only gone up since fitting this device very coincidental.

So you can absolutely guarantee that he didn't chuck in a can of injector cleaner at the same time - or have the car serviced - or change the brand of fuel used - or simply pump the tyres up a bit - or change the routes his students drive - BEFORE the "improvement" was noticed? I thought not.

Their have also been some rolling road tests done showing increase of power to wheels as well.

These results are published where exactly?? You might like to have a look at some real published results of testing on a rolling road. The results show that a vortex device similar to the Hi-clone purchased on Ebay REDUCED power output by about 10% and INCREASED fuel consumption by 20%.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/1802932.html?page=2

If I were you, I'd stop digging. Snake oil - pure and simple.

Cheers
Andrew

 

[andrewk]

Don't you have to bend the fins over yourself :?: so in a way you could resduce the air flow by bending them to far :? TBH you could make one up from an old coke can or bean tin & save yourself even more money :roll: I might even try it :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now that's an idea!!!

Cheers
Andrew

 

[andian61]

hey you don't have to save any fuel its completely your loss

To be honest with all that rubbish if this if that is thrown in why should I waste my time.
So you can absolutely guarantee that he didn't chuck in a can of injector cleaner at the same time - or have the car serviced - or change the brand of fuel used - or simply pump the tyres up a bit - or change the routes his students drive - BEFORE the "improvement" was noticed? I thought not.
Why would he do all that when he is having one of these fitted rather pointless id thought.
Sounds like you are one of those that if you can prove something 100% you'd still argue just for the sake of it. Anyway like i say your loss and its rather insulting to not take a guys word for something. Im not digging at all like I say others on here use the hiclone to good effect. As a guy pointed out in a earlier post he has found it produces less emssions by virtue of less carbon build up which in itself is self explanatory. Emission test mentioned showed lower results than cars with smaller engine sizes. Obviously we beg to differ but please don't accuse me of basicaly making something up which is what it seems like to me just because you are sceptical. The only way it would be proved would be if you was to try one but even then you would deny perhaps through ignorance. I can only say what has happened to me through personal experience and if that isnt enough for you then your problem not mine but don't try and make someone look stupid just because you can't or won't agree with them. I mean someone who uses snake oil terminology is over simplification in extreme. Cheers Andrew

 

[NEDDY]

Re: Andrewk

Can you argue with an emission test showing a vast improvement or the computer giving fuel consumption figures. The driving instructor I know has told me that the consumption figure has been showing the same average since he bought it and has only gone up since fitting this device very coincidental. The pupils he has are not driving with the knowledge they have a fuel saver fitted hence not changing driving style to suit. Anyway I know its hard to believe and like me initially thought it hard to believe but thought id give it a go. Their have also been some rolling road tests done showing increase of power to wheels as well.

andian 61. I will watch this article with interest . To my knowledge , You have not mentioned the company In USA but i did see a mention of a name in England is there a possibility that you have a sub franchise .I will view this all with an air of caution.I cant see ,Alistair Darling allowing a product with this much effect being let loose in this country without some heavy sanchions:thumb: