Towballs and snatch straps

[Fraccie]

Ignore the brand loyalty.

Read this thread and look at the videos, read the news reports.
Serious stuff here guys.

I apologise in advance for linking to another forum, but it is a serious issue fellas.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?11239-Deaths-from-towballs

 

[cncfabs]

Ignore the brand loyalty.

Read this thread and look at the videos, read the news reports.
Serious stuff here guys.

I apologise in advance for linking to another forum, but it is a serious issue fellas.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?11239-Deaths-from-towballs

I dont get it:nenau

 

[solarman216]

I dont get it:nenau

they are talking of breaking tow balls flying back on the rope and hitting people, I struggle to get my head round US terminology, "snatch straps" etc and see no mention of "dyneema rope" when I see guys "snatching" British term, ie backing up till strap/rope/wire is slack then powering forward, I get well out of the way as a it is very dangerous and ONLY damages equipment, Rick

 

[stinka]

I dont get it:nenau

Those springy snatch straps generate massive forces and break off tow balls going thru windscreens and stoving heads in ... At a guess

 

[spiderpig37]

Those springy snatch straps generate massive forces and break off tow balls going thru windscreens and stoving heads in ... At a guess

Kinetic recovery strap i think they are called when you set off hell for leather and take up the slack and then stop and let the kinetic energy in the strap do the rest
But i might be wrong

 

[solarman216]

Kinetic recovery strap i think they are called when you set off hell for leather and take up the slack and then stop and let the kinetic energy in the strap do the rest
But i might be wrong

yes I have seen a vid of one of those, not for me, sounds like a death wish, when I broke my dyneema last Sunday it was the webbing strap around the tree that stored the energy to take the dyneema towards the tree but it only broke cos of stones in the mud, wont do that again, Rick

 

[stinka]

Will you be able to fix it rick ?

 

[solarman216]

Will you be able to fix it rick ?

yes mate, ex trucker from the days of roping and sheeting, dab hand at splicing a rope, Rick

 

[stinka]

Haha

Do you just tie a special knot then mate ?

 

[solarman216]

I suppose you could call a splice a special knot but all knots come back on themselves so causing a week point, a splice just copies the lay of the lay of the rope for a minimum of 4 tucks that is the two ends are interleaved with each other, as strong as the original with just a little thickening at the joint, Rick

 

[stinka]

Sounds fiddley mate, and something best left to experianced chaps like yourself :thumb2

 

[solarman216]

it is really quite easy, when I get round to doing it I will take some pics so you will see for yourself, in the past I have spliced steel cable, that takes some doing, could not attempt it now, hands getting weak, Rick

 

[stinka]

Yes, a thread on that would be great, interested to see it done and no doubt it will help in the future as all these winch cables seem to going the plasma rope way

 

[spiderpig37]

it is really quite easy, when I get round to doing it I will take some pics so you will see for yourself, in the past I have spliced steel cable, that takes some doing, could not attempt it now, hands getting weak, Rick

Used to help an old navi driver splice drag ropes on 32rb drag line when i worked in a quarry he used to bollock me if i used more than two hits on rope cutter
Them were the days

 

[makeitfit]

Splicing you say do it all the time on the rigging on my race cat :thumbs
Dynema now used all over the race circuit and splicing is the only way of doing light weight strong fitting joins etc
Like I said Rick, dynema's weak point is sharp stuff. Slide it over something if unsure about stones hiding in the mud
Kinetic rope used in the right circumstances is bloody great but not on a tow ball
Drive off at normal pace not hell for leather, and a stuck truck can be pulled out nice n quick. No good however if the stuck truck is bogged down in the goo and the axles are acting like bloody ground anchors. Equipment selection is the key :thumb2

 

[solarman216]

Splicing you say do it all the time on the rigging on my race cat :thumbs
Dynema now used all over the race circuit and splicing is the only way of doing light weight strong fitting joins etc
Like I said Rick, dynema's weak point is sharp stuff. Slide it over something if unsure about stones hiding in the mud
Kinetic rope used in the right circumstances is bloody great but not on a tow ball
Drive off at normal pace not hell for leather, and a stuck truck can be pulled out nice n quick. No good however if the stuck truck is bogged down in the goo and the axles are acting like bloody ground anchors. Equipment selection is the key :thumb2

yep agree completely, learnt the hard way on the stones in mud issue, will make me a series of ss tubes on a couple of strings to run it over a bank in future, we have to meet one day, Rick

 

[makeitfit]

We'll sort something soon mate:thumb2
Gotta get me supercharger sorted first though

 

[solarman216]

Gotta get me supercharger sorted first though

I want to see this, you have a lot more get up and go than I have, I get very laid back these days, Rick

 

[solarman216]

see you just made 9k well done, Rick

 

[makeitfit]

see you just made 9k well done, Rick

Say what ? :nenau