The yellow peril

[jonela]

Don't know if you have heard but everything is shutting down over here due to the yellow vest's protests and all the garages have run out of fuel. we don't know when we will next be able to get some. It's been four days now all the pumps have been closed.
So I was contemplating something new for me. Running veg oil.
My T2 has a Zexcel pump and a hitach maf .
I only intend to use it until the derv comes back on line, but there is no derv or petrol to mix with it. I have about a quarter of a tank of derv. There is a kind of paraffin used for domestic heaters here and I have about 30 liters of petrol in the bikes. Whats my best option guys?

 

[solarman216]

Stick some veg in it to bring it up to 3/4 tank, but do not use petrol or paraffin, they are lube killers, your Zexel will be fine, Rick

ps, what is the yellow vest problem?

 

[jonela]

Stick some veg in it to bring it up to 3/4 tank, but do not use petrol or paraffin, they are lube killers, your Zexel will be fine, Rick

ps, what is the yellow vest problem?

It started out as a protest against a big hike in fuel prices but now it has grown to encompass all of Macrons new plans to make his wealthy pals richer at the expense of the poor. The protesters are all wearing the yellow vests you have to carry in your car here and supporters of the demonstrators put the vest on the dash board to show solidarity They are blockading fuel depots and busy roundabouts all over the country. From the 10th of December they have threatened to completely shut the country down.
Last Saturday there were 220,000 of them out on the streets mostly in Paris but we got held up at a roundabout for about 20 minuets on our way to the shops.

 

[solarman216]

Now this is an aspect of the French that has to be admired and we should follow suite, when the French have a problem they sort it, I saw some of this when trucking in the 70's, if the truckers had a grievance they stuck together and stopped the country till it was rectified, if the French disagree with an EU directive they ignore it, pity we do not do the same, Rick

 

[Banshee]

If you've got 1/4 tank of Derv, fill it to the brim with Veg, that should keep you going for a few hundred more miles.

I ran my Zexel Maverick on some real real nasty WVO for years and it was fine to the day it got smashed into

The only thing I'd do personally if I was you would be to swap your filter after the first tank, you'd be AMAZED the crap you will drag through with the veg, it's sticky and will pull any debris in the system through and into the filter.

Make sure your glow plugs are working too, that coupled with a good battery and 2 or 3 cycles of the plugs first thing in the morning should be enough to get it to start if it's dropped really cold. When you cycle the glow plugs, let the light go out and then continue to wait until you get the glow plug relay click from the drivers side front wing, that's the point that the plugs go off, then repeat the cycle.

If all else fails, make sure you've got a can of easy start to hand for emergencies, once it coughs into action the combustion will be enough to get the fuel moving of it's own free will :thumb2

What's the price of veg like over there per litre?

 

[macabethiel]

In a Democracy you get what you voted for ??

It started out as a protest against a big hike in fuel prices but now it has grown to encompass all of Macrons new plans to make his wealthy pals richer at the expense of the poor. The protesters are all wearing the yellow vests you have to carry in your car here and supporters of the demonstrators put the vest on the dash board to show solidarity They are blockading fuel depots and busy roundabouts all over the country. From the 10th of December they have threatened to completely shut the country down.
Last Saturday there were 220,000 of them out on the streets mostly in Paris but we got held up at a roundabout for about 20 minuets on our way to the shops.

I always get the feeling that the "Revolution" never really finished in France they seem quick to take to the streets if the UK media reflects what is really happening.

Personally it's too much like Lynch Mob Mentality for my liking with scant regard for the innocent that suffer in the path.

Never forgave them for Torching UK trucks full of live animals a few hears back.

 

[solarman216]

Mmmmm (In a Democracy you get what you voted for ??) we voted for Brexit but it is not what we are getting, Rick

 

[macabethiel]

It was a little tongue in cheek !

Mmmmm (In a Democracy you get what you voted for ??) we voted for Brexit but it is not what we are getting, Rick

We will after the transition period unless May is scuppered beforehand.

I think Brexit is the greatest test our so called Democracy has ever faced. The majority of those who voted in the referendum wanted to leave the EU me included.

Westminster is faced with the choice implementing the will of the majority that clearly no party wants to enact.

Politicians have for far too long ignored the very people who put them in power saying things like I voted with my conscience or followed the party line. They seem to break promises like the working man breaks wind ! lol

 

[jims-terrano]

Whatever will be will be and life will go on in one way or another. Nuff said about politics from me.

Good luck with your search for fuel and if all else fails everyone else will be in the same boat and the fuel taps will run again even if disrupted for a while but looks like the French President has listened to the people and postponed the rise in duty.

 

[don simon]

We will after the transition period unless May is scuppered beforehand.

I think Brexit is the greatest test our so called Democracy has ever faced. The majority of those who voted in the referendum wanted to leave the EU me included.

Westminster is faced with the choice implementing the will of the majority that clearly no party wants to enact.

Politicians have for far too long ignored the very people who put them in power saying things like I voted with my conscience or followed the party line. They seem to break promises like the working man breaks wind ! lol

If we take into account the fact that the premise of the leave campaign was based on lies and that the majority who voted for brexit was a majority of those who could be arsed to get out and vote rather than a majority of the electorate or population. We now have a different slant on the so called majority wanting brexit.
I think the current push by our elected parliamentarians is likely to be more representative of what the population as a whole wants at this present time. If people have put pressure on their MPs in the period after referendum as they find more and more lies and untruths, isn't it only right that the MPs reject the governments offering? Isn't that more democratic than a referendum based on lies? As we swing away from brexit, isn't it right to have another referendum? After all, what has the leave campaign got to be scared of? They'll win again and put us remainers back in our boxes for good, won't they?
Democracy is the ability of accepting the views of the majority, even when you oppose those views.
Currently I don't see that we have that in the way that May is charging towards the abyss.

 

[macabethiel]

I wouldn't join any Political Party that would have me as a member. lol

If we take into account the fact that the premise of the leave campaign was based on lies and that the majority who voted for brexit was a majority of those who could be arsed to get out and vote rather than a majority of the electorate or population. We now have a different slant on the so called majority wanting brexit.
I think the current push by our elected parliamentarians is likely to be more representative of what the population as a whole wants at this present time. If people have put pressure on their MPs in the period after referendum as they find more and more lies and untruths, isn't it only right that the MPs reject the governments offering? Isn't that more democratic than a referendum based on lies? As we swing away from brexit, isn't it right to have another referendum? After all, what has the leave campaign got to be scared of? They'll win again and put us remainers back in our boxes for good, won't they?
Democracy is the ability of accepting the views of the majority, even when you oppose those views.
Currently I don't see that we have that in the way that May is charging towards the abyss.

In my case I voted to leave the EU even though I voted in the previous referendum to Join the "Common Market".

When I voted "Yes" to join the Common Market I had no idea we would end up heading for a Federal Europe, the last straw for me was when the ultimate Court of Appeal left the UK. The legislation to make us give Votes for Prisoners was just one example of our loss of sovereignty. Not to mention the "Human Rights Act" debacle.

In the unlikely event of another referendum I think the result will be an increased majority for leaving as most people are totally hacked off with the media lies on both sides. What if the vote goes to stay ? Do we then have another referendum make it the best out of three?

 

[don simon]

In my case I voted to leave the EU even though I voted in the previous referendum to Join the "Common Market".

When I voted "Yes" to join the Common Market I had no idea we would end up heading for a Federal Europe, the last straw for me was when the ultimate Court of Appeal left the UK. The legislation to make us give Votes for Prisoners was just one example of our loss of sovereignty. Not to mention the "Human Rights Act" debacle.

In the unlikely event of another referendum I think the result will be an increased majority for leaving as most people are totally hacked off with the media lies on both sides. What if the vote goes to stay ? Do we then have another referendum make it the best out of three?

For fear of derailling this thread and now that it has moved into a brexit thread, I will respond.
As far as the votes for prisoners go, how did that end? https://www.theguardian.com/politic...cepts-uk-compromise-on-prisoner-voting-rights and regardless of the end, we were a part of a democratic process where the MEPs that we voted for had an opportunity to put our voices forward. We would have had to respect the decision even if we had disagrees. On balance we have received more than this would have cost, but it's your personal decision, which is fine.
You'll have to explain what the "Human Rights Act" debacle was as I have no recollection and I can't really see anything after a quick Google.

 

[jonela]

What's the price of veg like over there per litre?

Cheapest I can get it near me is 1.33€ - 3c a liter cheaper than derv, However if I was to travel to Quimper 40k from me I could get it in big tins for around 90c a liter, but as we are short on fuel ,kind of defeats the point . :doh

 

[Banshee]

Cheapest I can get it near me is 1.33€ - 3c a liter cheaper than derv, However if I was to travel to Quimper 40k from me I could get it in big tins for around 90c a liter, but as we are short on fuel ,kind of defeats the point . :doh

That's still £1.18 a litre in pounds sterling. I haven't been in the cash and carry for a few months but last time I was in there it was about 70p a litre.

How about we drive to you loaded with Vegetable Oil in our trucks and then on the way back we do a booze run.

Rick are you in?

 

[jonela]

How about we drive to you loaded with Vegetable Oil in our trucks and then on the way back we do a booze run.

Rick are you in?

Your more than welcome to stay any time out of season,( any time except June,July,August & September) when the B&B is busy. Rick has been before, so he knows the way :lol