team wales and dadba... we did it

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You can't have it both ways either it was a road generally open to the public in which case the above would apply or it wasn't.

Either way where careless driving doesn't apply they use dangerous driving instead.

Oh if you mean the forest road, no its not open to the public. We know that; the tracks are there for heavy plant and machinery to go and plant or cut trees....with a 20-30 year gap in between, so as far as I am concerned I'm not going to cause a problem by driving on them and nobody is going to do any more than ask me to leave which I will happily do.

But to cover your specific point Terra, if I allowed vehicles to drive across a piece of my land, thats a private easement, not a ROW which is a different and very specific legal principle. So if I change my mind and ban them, I can't call the police to get them removed or issue S59s, because its civil trespass only, and thats not a criminal issue.

Just because something looks like a road, doesn't mean it IS a road, at least the legal definition of one. Its the legal status thats important.