stuck in the mud

[ikonos]

Hi all I got stuck in the mud yesterday not to deep and was wondering
whats the best type of tyres to change to I have a 03 2.7 vegi burning
tarrano with std alloys .

scotty

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

well rather depends on what sort of mud, how deep and how often you
intend to go thru it again!

i find my all terrains from general good all rounders but there are more
agressive mud terrains available though some do offer a trade off against
road noise and handling.

again worht checking tht all of 4wd system was working correctly along
with lsd in rear axle as tbh never been stuck yet unless haen't tried
hard enough!

if standard alloys are 16" should have good choice, less for 17" much
more choice for 15"s.

welcome aboard Scotty .

 

[elty001]

as rbrt says alot of it comes down to personal choice.at the moment i am running on kuhmo kl71 mud terrains.quite noisy on the road(compared to all terrains)and they do also reduce you mpg.
i dont really do alot of mileage and quite a bit of greenlaning when possible so the muds suit me fine.
very tempted to buy another set of alloys with all terrains on as the muds do wear down quite fast with just road use.

 

[Baxter]

as said it all depends on what type of 'offroading' you do with it,

i had some cooper AT's (something like that) 50/50 i found them totaly crap, so i got some insa remold turbos, iv never had a problem apart from road noise and mpg :lol:

 

[Deleted Member D]

BFG mud boots

I have good experience with the BFG mud boots.
At the moment I have my second set on.
The first set were on for nearly four years and used for both off and on road continuously in that time.
I had done over 60,000 miles with them and sold them earlier this year for £200 to a landrover off roading owner.
So that been said I would go for the best mud gripping road driving combo and the best value for that has to be the BFG mud. -cheers-

 

[andrewk]

kuhmo kl71 mud terrains

Those are supposed to be excellent. Got a great review in a mag a little while back. Supposed to be very quiet on tarmac for such an agressive tread pattern. I *nearly* bought a set for my 'Troll. In the end, I didn't partly because they are directional so you really need two spares - but mainly because they weren't available in 265/70 R17 at the time.

Cheers
Andrew

 

[andrewk]

Hi all I got stuck in the mud yesterday not to deep and was wondering whats the best type of tyres to change to I have a 03 2.7 vegi burningtarrano with std alloys .

If you do mainly road mileage, as I do, then all terrains are probably a good bet - either BFGs (good) or General Grabber AT2 (good and cheaper). In deep mud, MTs from BFG or Kumho (and others) will be better - but then again, if your "offroad" driving is limited to legal greenlanes, you could argue that if your motor is shod will all terrains and you get stuck then maybe you shouldn't be driving that lane anyway.

Best of luck

Cheers
Andrew

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

good point there from andrew about tyres. does depend what you do and
how often. degrees of compromise etc

the generals i reckon are about best non bfgs at fraction of price, almost
clones. certainly not all ats are equal.

toying with the lk71s next based on value, looks! and performance and
just about daily drivers too.

another option is 2 sets, road and mud /extreme off road but then
hassle of changing over and not being able to go of road cos got roads
on.

without wishing to preach if you keep speed to a max of 70 mph any tyre
will do. tbh i am for about 65 solo or towing :twisted: well it just feels
soooo right.

 

[ikonos]

Cheers for warm welcome and the info guy's;

I do a bit of shooting on farmland and I also use the big bus for work and towing a caravan in the good weather. also for launching the small boat for fishing so it's a bit of a all rounder
I dont have roof rails; is it possible to fit ones from a scrap terrano.
I recently done the clutch on her well chuffed It was out and in in a day
I used a ebay quad jack.

thanks
scotty

 

[siweb]

I find the Kl71's very quite on the road tbh...

As for the spare as long as it's the same size your ok doesn't have to be the same tread :wink: (so if it's not a directional tyre your fine) was talking about this just the other day to an mot tester.

I only use the spare 'As a spare' so to speak. I always get the flat tyre fixed or changed depending what's up with it.

 

[andrewk]

As for the spare as long as it's the same size your ok doesn't have to be the same tread

No, indeed legally it doesn't. I wouldn't, though, care to drive very far on tarmac with a directional tyre the wrong way round. It has to affect it's performance offroad too. It also means that there isn't really a strategy for rotating the tyres, including the spare, that works so that all five wear at the same rate.

Having said that, I don't think it would have prevented me buying a set if they'd been readily available in the size I wanted, when I wanted them.

Cheers
Andrew

 

[rustic]

I dont have roof rails; is it possible to fit ones from a scrap terrano.
I recently done the clutch on her well chuffed It was out and in in a day
I used a ebay quad jack.
thanks
scotty

I was so interested in how you got your box out so quick, that Quad jack... £50 +P&P sounds a good idea, how high did you have to lift the vehicle to be able to drop the box and could you have enough clearance to say remove the box from under the vehicle?
Could help a few members on this site.
Re: Roof rails, several threads on this(Sorry about the pun), a few have fitted these from scrap vehicles. You probably need a nut setting tool, similar to a pop rivit gun but sets threaded bushes. They used to be called Riv Nut tools I think.
Best regards, Rustic

 

[tezzer]

have you had a look at the winches in his shop, i don't know much about them but they seem ok, the guy's warehouse is just down the road to me, must pop in and have look, :lol:


tezzer

 

[ikonos]

HI Rusti, Yes I could remove the box and crossmember in one.
This is how i done it in case any members are looking to do this;
Caution pain involved!!!

I used a set of car ramps; a 5 ton bottle jack and two building blocks; small 1" socket chain puller; a 3 ft pinch bar; a socket set and spanners.
I first ran the car up the ramps then jacked and blocked it up. The £50 jack I already had for the boys quads; The job was well tough, the trickest thing was the removal/fitting of the starter done with 3 3/8 socket extension bars and a flexy adapter from the front crossmember up to the starter motor under the front rollbar,removal of the steering shaft made this easier, which involves the drivers wheel off to gain access. A 14mm socket is used for the starter motor.
Next for the two bellhousing bolts at the top of the gearbox 14mm same again flexy and extention bars this was done from underneath the car with the bonnet open so you can see the bolt head. I then jacked the car up and undid the torsion bar adjusters and crossmember bolts 19mm spanner/sockets ; 77mm is the adjustment length I used on the rebuild; at the front of the torsion bars there are 4 14mm and 2 not sure poss 5/8 19mm. I then lowered the car the pinchbar; 5lb hammer; knocked the crossmember and bars out. Took the prop shaft off the front: 8x 14mm nuts /bolts, on the rear shaft I just removed 4x 17mm/19mm nuts/ bolts I think. leaving shaft in but resting on ply as not to lose any oil out of the box. I disconected hose and wires to box and rest of bolts frombell and the 4wd sel shaft 1x15mm and 2x12mm; put a rope round the rear diff and used the puller and quad jack to seperate box and lower and refitted the new clutch kit. Refitting the box was pretty much the way it came out. but I used the puller on front rollbar and pinch bar to nudge it back in
I done this myself and I am not a mechanic, sound advice is use plenty wd40 before removal of any nuts and bolts, and I was in a fair bit of pain for a about a week after with pulling myself out from under the car alot to get tools.

not to sure what height can say the wheels were above the ramps about
8" to get box out
I hope this helps someone
scotty time served painter

 

[willow]

HI Rusti, Yes I could remove the box and crossmember in one.
This is how i done it in case any members are looking to do this;
Caution pain involved!!!

I used a set of car ramps; a 5 ton bottle jack and two building blocks; small 1" socket chain puller; a 3 ft pinch bar; a socket set and spanners.
I first ran the car up the ramps then jacked and blocked it up. The £50 jack I already had for the boys quads; The job was well tough, the trickest thing was the removal/fitting of the starter done with 3 3/8 socket extension bars and a flexy adapter from the front crossmember up to the starter motor under the front rollbar,removal of the steering shaft made this easier, which involves the drivers wheel off to gain access. A 14mm socket is used for the starter motor.
Next for the two bellhousing bolts at the top of the gearbox 14mm same again flexy and extention bars this was done from underneath the car with the bonnet open so you can see the bolt head. I then jacked the car up and undid the torsion bar adjusters and crossmember bolts 19mm spanner/sockets ; 77mm is the adjustment length I used on the rebuild; at the front of the torsion bars there are 4 14mm and 2 not sure poss 5/8 19mm. I then lowered the car the pinchbar; 5lb hammer; knocked the crossmember and bars out. Took the prop shaft off the front: 8x 14mm nuts /bolts, on the rear shaft I just removed 4x 17mm/19mm nuts/ bolts I think. leaving shaft in but resting on ply as not to lose any oil out of the box. I disconected hose and wires to box and rest of bolts from the bellhousing; put a rope round the rear diff and used the puller and quad jack to seperate box and lower and refitted the new clutch kit. Refitting the box was pretty much the way it came out. but I used the puller on front rollbar and pinch bar to nudge it back in
I done this myself and I am not a mechanic, sound advice is use plenty wd40 before removal of any nuts and bolts, and I was in a fair bit of pain for a about a week after with pulling myself out from under the car alot to get tools.

not to sure what height can say the wheels were above the ramps about
8" to get box out
I hope this helps someone
scotty time served painter

Thanks from me ouch :!:

 

[ikonos]

good point there from andrew about tyres. does depend what you do and
how often. degrees of compromise etc

the generals i reckon are about best non bfgs at fraction of price, almost
clones. certainly not all ats are equal.

toying with the lk71s next based on value, looks! and performance and
just about daily drivers too.

another option is 2 sets, road and mud /extreme off road but then
hassle of changing over and not being able to go of road cos got roads
on.

without wishing to preach if you keep speed to a max of 70 mph any tyre
will do. tbh i am for about 65 solo or towing :twisted: well it just feels
soooo right.

The tyres on the bus just now are std numbers got a wee bit bogged down at work looking for somethink a bit more chunky
and bigger just toying with the idea just now mosty road stuff the odd bit of ofroad
the mpg It don't matter she runs on wvo 100% twin tank so not to fussed
I also tow a caravan an elddis avante 534 sometimes I am a wee bit cheeky tramping down the loch road at 65 but other than that just like to waddel on down the road at 50

 

[willow]

Hi all I got stuck in the mud yesterday not to deep and was wondering
whats the best type of tyres to change to I have a 03 2.7 vegi burning
tarrano with std alloys .

scotty

Are you sure your 4x4 is working 8O 8O 8O

 

[rustic]

Thanks for spending the time on the post on how you removed the box Ikonos, I have filed it for future reference, you never know.
Best regards, Rustic

 

[ikonos]

Hi Willow YEP it is working ok I got out ok in low 4 but it was having a wee dance to itself in the mud And I thought that would be down to the road tyers
got the bug now anyway wanna give it a wee lift and new boots A bar and stuff.

 

[tezzer]

well done scotty, i know where im taking my truck when i need a clutch changing, i'll be your tool runner for the day, i was thinking it might be easier to remove the engine that way you could change leaking seals, gaskets and the clutch, coreplugs etc, anybody done it this way, seemed better than laying on your back allday;



tezzer