sounds a bit dodgy

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Actually the law is a bit grey there. The old MoT remains valid until it expires, so you don't commit the offence of not having one if you take it on the road.

Not quite sure where thats come from but as soon as the fail is issued the vehicle no longer holds an mot record . Sure theres still an apparently valid cert hanging around thatll fool them at the post office but the last issued document be it a pass or fail automatically supersedes previous ones :thumb2

Where confusion often (allegedly :augie though the last magistrate i saw dealing with it didnt buy the story) comes in is that when your issued with a new pass, the old one remains valid and the new one youve got early comes in when that one expires. Hence its still valid even though youve submitted the vehicle for test.

The logic behind all of this is becoming invalid takes unroadworthy vehicles off the road immediately. Giving the extra in advance helps out the decent ones :thumb2

Cant remember but either DVLA or Vosa website explains this but is quite clear it only remains valid if it passes :D
 
meant to add to that , the acid test and burden of proof is that if youre stopped its unlikely the certificate will be physically checked. The computer records will be (which is where anpr data comes from)

Im not sure but i understand that under the new regime of computerised testing at the mot station theyre all networked and as soon as "fail" is inputted at the station, the central ie one thats used as the definitive check, will show a fail and therefore not holding an MOT :thumb2

Im way out of date on the computer side of this but i do remember getting a statement from the DoT (pre vosa) for a case where a car had failed. After the intro blurb the statement quite simply said that the vehicle did not hold a current valid MOT because the last recorded transaction was a fail :thumb2
 
not my problem now anyway ...... or is it ? :nenau
As long as you've posted off the green bit:thumbs
You should get a letter back from the DVLA saying you sold the truck and no longer responsible, yadayada.
Keep that if you must:cool:
 
As long as you've posted off the green bit:thumbs
You should get a letter back from the DVLA saying you sold the truck and no longer responsible, yadayada.
Keep that if you must:cool:

Good advice, those letters are worth their weight in gold at times :thumb2

As far as the ongoing debate of is it invalidated goes theres some real horse shit on the internet , just been having a good scout around :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Just made a quick phone call and the answer i got was "whatever...............but..............ok youve got a valid bit of paper but youve also got a non pass, all recorded, so which will be the most valid when the case file is put together or the fixed penalty issued"

good point grey area or not and the report the fail presents is valid expert opinion:thumb2

Also, MOTs are checked on the computer systems even if the cert is produced. Quite frankly anyone keen to present one is suspicious anyway, Ill bet most of you are like me and have to think where the damn thing is :D
 
I would keep some carefully made notes on what has happened dates, times of MOT fail and sale of motor and checking with DVLA etc so that if this guy gets pulled (and surely he will) that if he tries to say he new nothing about the MOT failure and tries passing the buck to you that you have all the correct answers, maybe some time down the line, although in theory he will be responsible for getting it tested after the old one ran out, these things do not always pan out as they should, for warned is for armed, Rick
 

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