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[solarman216]

hmm..not trying to preach, but if you are on mobile network, are you ensuring the pics you upload are ultra SMALL? I dont mean in screen size, I mean in memory size??

You must be right the first pics that loaded OK were 1 meg the ones that did not were 2 meg, will reduce them and have another go tomorrow, thanks, Rick:thumb2

 

[briggie]

You must be right the first pics that loaded OK were 1 meg the ones that did not were 2 meg, will reduce them and have another go tomorrow, thanks, Rick:thumb2

if you can convert them to j peg format that might help :thumb2

 

[lacroupade]

thanks tezzer mate :thumb2 ... i realise i may be thinking in a negative mode at the moment ( and i mean no disrespect to anyone ) .. but i keep hearing how bullet proof the gearboxes are ( mine foofed up big time ) ok due to a non existant atf cooler , but.... i keep hearing how bulletproof the engine is ......see my point ? hardly instills confidence .... but on a good point .... what else can go wrong once this is fixed ? ( dont answer that lol )

No no no....the engine IS bulletproof,no question.

BUT, nobody has ever claimed either gearbox is bulletproof, far from it.

The manual gearbox is prone to having the middle of the clutch plate ripped out sometimes (its the manual Terry means not the auto) and is also prone to other failure.

But LIKE ALL DIESELS the autobox is under a lot more strain than with a petrol engine because of all the extra torque, so is more likely to fail in the longer term. A lot of diesel 4x4 manufacturers don't even offer auto options for that very reason.

Its also why the towing weight for the auto is SIGNIFICANTLY less than the manual box, in an attempt to stop it being overloaded.

The argument/speculation (which turned out to be spot on) was about the noise not being due to engine failure per se.

 

[clivvy]

You must be right the first pics that loaded OK were 1 meg the ones that did not were 2 meg, will reduce them and have another go tomorrow, thanks, Rick:thumb2

yup, too big, you should be looking at way less than a meg. dead easy to do, just re size image to 1024x768 or 800x600, that splenty big enough for a forum then when you save it, save as JPEG, then choose compression level (depends on software, but will probably be in an options box when you are saving), and just notch it down a bit, youll notice the image looks pretty much the same, but MUCH smaller.

 

[clivvy]

No no no....the engine IS bulletproof,no question.

BUT, nobody has ever claimed either gearbox is bulletproof, far from it.

The manual gearbox is prone to having the middle of the clutch plate ripped out sometimes (its the manual Terry means not the auto) and is also prone to other failure.

But LIKE ALL DIESELS the autobox is under a lot more strain than with a petrol engine because of all the extra torque, so is more likely to fail in the longer term. A lot of diesel 4x4 manufacturers don't even offer auto options for that very reason.

Its also why the towing weight for the auto is SIGNIFICANTLY less than the manual box, in an attempt to stop it being overloaded.

The argument/speculation (which turned out to be spot on) was about the noise not being due to engine failure per se.

I think the issue here quite simply, is Pete got very VERY unlucky. it happens, its a shame, and all we can do is put it right.

 

[solarman216]

Engine drive plate

Just a thought here lads, as I have never dealt with Auto boxes so thin drive plates I am not familiar with, but I am beginning to get the picture, if as I suspect this plate has broke then I am very wary of trying to get a used one, for such an important item, so I will call in local Nissan shop today for price and availability, even if dear I would be happier to rely on new in this situation, what are your thoughts, I have been called out on a job today so will not be back till later pm, Rick,,,,,,,,,OK Nissan have come back while typing this, this drive plate is peanuts so ordered one anyway, but down side is they are on back order from Nissan and 21 days delivery!!!!!:nenau:nenau

 

[tezzer]

100% agree with you rick, it's got to be new, have you tried fords? i assume the plate is the same as a maverick, :thumb2

 

[extreme-4x4]

ok i'll ask the question ...

this flywheel damage. could it be caused by the gearbox change. or not put back right.... only seems odd there was no noise before

probably going to upset some by asking ... but im curious. (not in the zippy way either paul)

was this a dumb question or something

 

[Deleted account DD]

was this a dumb question or something

Nope it definitely wasnt.

Problem is though.............prove it!

 

[briggie]

was this a dumb question or something

if it was a dumb question , then im dumb too cos i asked it as well:nenau

 

[briggie]

i know someone who will know though !!!! ( reme mechanics at the base where my son is )..... phone time :naughty

 

[briggie]

i know someone who will know though !!!! ( reme mechanics at the base where my son is )..... phone time :naughty

his phone just gone straight to answering machine ...... oh well it was an idea

 

[lacroupade]

was this a dumb question or something

nope and I know where my money is....

 

[extreme-4x4]

Nope it definitely wasnt.

Problem is though.............prove it!

so what is the gearbox garages view on it.
we did paypal for all that work . so have comeback if it was a poor job

 

[briggie]

hang on a moment please

we seem to have found the cause ( or one of them at least ) of the engine failure , but hang on a mo ,can we definately prove that this drive plate thingy was damaged during the gearbox replacement ?, im as upset as you all are , but lets take a step back and look at possible causes first ..... we are aware that the car was bodged before it was sold, and not serviced.... low oil etc, and was thrashed ( garages view cos it was covered in mud underneath ) off road , im sure rick will examine it carefully with swifty and arrive at a definate conclusion as will paul .... lets wait untill then huh ? :nenau

 

[Darwin]

If we werent willing to take on the original selller , no point in complaining about the mechanics who fitted the box.

Lets just get it fixed shall we ?

 

[lacroupade]

we seem to have found the cause ( or one of them at least ) of the engine failure , but hang on a mo ,can we definately prove that this drive plate thingy was damaged during the gearbox replacement ?, im as upset as you all are , but lets take a step back and look at possible causes first ..... we are aware that the car was bodged before it was sold, and not serviced.... low oil etc, and was thrashed ( garages view cos it was covered in mud underneath ) off road , im sure rick will examine it carefully with swifty and arrive at a definate conclusion as will paul .... lets wait untill then huh ? :nenau

Briggie no disrespect mate but its the obvious conclusion.

Google yourself there and back but I doubt you'll find a problem like this documented anywhere......its a first as far as I know. The clutch centre plate problem that Tezzer mentioned is specific to manual gearboxes so isn't in the frame. The flywheel as I'm sure you know is a stonking great piece of ironmongery attached to the engine via the crankshaft - they don't just fall off without some kind of intervention.

anyway, que sera....

 

[briggie]

Briggie no disrespect mate but its the obvious conclusion.

Google yourself there and back but I doubt you'll find a problem like this documented anywhere......its a first as far as I know. The clutch centre plate problem that Tezzer mentioned is specific to manual gearboxes so isn't in the frame. The flywheel as I'm sure you know is a stonking great piece of ironmongery attached to the engine via the crankshaft - they don't just fall off without some kind of intervention.

anyway, que sera....

no disrespect taken my friend.....im just being cautious, but ultimately any decision made will be by paul and the group , and i will totally respect that decision.

kind regards

pete

 

[tezzer]

Briggie no disrespect mate but its the obvious conclusion.

Google yourself there and back but I doubt you'll find a problem like this documented anywhere......its a first as far as I know. The clutch centre plate problem that Tezzer mentioned is specific to manual gearboxes so isn't in the frame. The flywheel as I'm sure you know is a stonking great piece of ironmongery attached to the engine via the crankshaft - they don't just fall off without some kind of intervention.

anyway, que sera....

paul, i was'nt on about the clutch centre plate, as it's auto it has the drive plate that bolts to the crank, and to the torque converter, and they are known to fail, either crack or spin the centre out, when they crack it sound just like the bottom end has failed/knocking. :thumb2

 

[Timbo_1975]

Has the 'box actually been removed from the engine to examine the flex plate ????

- very common for them to crack if the 'box has been left to hang from the engine unsupported.

I dont see any pic's either, assumiung there should be some from reading the posts..