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[solarman216]

Not a normal thing, I would put my money on flywheel bolts failing/coming loose, if the crank had broke it would have to be a very straight break for the rest of the engine not to try and turn, but as it is the starter spins the flywheel without effort and it keeps spinning after starter stops, I might mention that we started it up at Pauls, for him to listen to and we have started it three times since being in the yard, and the third time it was idling and simply stopped, I thought it may have seized but no I could turn it with a spanner on the PS pump pulley, I then tried the starter and got the result we have now, so if Briggie had tried to use it, he probably would not have got more than a mile from the garage, however will know more when we pull the engine out, but cannot get it in the workshop at the moment, always the way, you can never have something just when you want it, perhaps we won't race it a Smallfields after all, in spite of the lovely paint job, Rick

 

[briggie]

Not a normal thing, I would put my money on flywheel bolts failing/coming loose, if the crank had broke it would have to be a very straight break for the rest of the engine not to try and turn, but as it is the starter spins the flywheel without effort and it keeps spinning after starter stops, I might mention that we started it up at Pauls, for him to listen to and we have started it three times since being in the yard, and the third time it was idling and simply stopped, I thought it may have seized but no I could turn it with a spanner on the PS pump pulley, I then tried the starter and got the result we have now, so if Briggie had tried to use it, he probably would not have got more than a mile from the garage, however will know more when we pull the engine out, but cannot get it in the workshop at the moment, always the way, you can never have something just when you want it, perhaps we won't race it a Smallfields after all, in spite of the lovely paint job, Rick

so will the new engine have a flywheel and will it cure the problem rick ? ..... ps nowt wrong with my old paint job lol

 

[Bat21]

My take on this.

Bolted to the crank is the torque converter drive plate which is a relatively thin disc of metal.

Bolted to the drive plate is the torque converter/flywheel (it is the same thing).

When Rick started Pete's motor at my house the noise sounded like a metal plate banging/resonating on overrun.

My theory is (and was on Tuesday) that the torque converter drive plate is cracked/damaged in some way.

Going by what Rick is now saying I still stick to this theory.

I am quite surprised that the guys at the garage where Pete's truck was last week didn't arrive at this conclusion.

 

[briggie]

My take on this.

Bolted to the crank is the torque converter drive plate which is a relatively thin disc of metal.

Bolted to the drive plate is the torque converter/flywheel (it is the same thing).

When Rick started Pete's motor at my house the noise sounded like a metal plate banging/resonating on overrun.

My theory is (and was on Tuesday) that the torque converter drive plate is cracked/damaged in some way.

Going by what Rick is now saying I still stick to this theory.

I am quite surprised that the guys at the garage where Pete's truck was last week didn't arrive at this conclusion.

thanks paul mate , im gutted .... if it wasnt for bad luck id have no luck at all ... can this be fixed viably with the bits we allready have ? ..... or do i arrange sallys funeral ?

 

[briggie]

My take on this.

Bolted to the crank is the torque converter drive plate which is a relatively thin disc of metal.

Bolted to the drive plate is the torque converter/flywheel (it is the same thing).

When Rick started Pete's motor at my house the noise sounded like a metal plate banging/resonating on overrun.

My theory is (and was on Tuesday) that the torque converter drive plate is cracked/damaged in some way.

Going by what Rick is now saying I still stick to this theory.

I am quite surprised that the guys at the garage where Pete's truck was last week didn't arrive at this conclusion.

next question ..... at what point do we say " fuff it " and break it for spares ? ....or can it be fixed viably ?

 

[solarman216]

Will not be racing Briggies Mistral after all

I have decided that this is a better race motor.

 

[solarman216]

Try again

 

[briggie]

I have decided that this is a better race motor.

i fully respect yours/pauls/clives... and the groups decision ...... lets leave it there for now :banghead:banghead:banghead

 

[Darwin]

Try again

Your are never going to get a job in IT :lol

 

[Deleted account DD]

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[Bat21]

next question ..... at what point do we say " fuff it " and break it for spares ? ....or can it be fixed viably ?

Chill Pete, it can be fixed. The worse case scenario is we will have to source a torque converter drive plate.

You truck is far too good to even consider breaking it...... I'm sure it would make a great banger for Rick :sly

 

[Deleted account DD]

I'm sure it would make a great banger for Rick :sly

As we speak................................................

 

[solarman216]

You are right, pic loaded fine other day, now not having it, problem is I do not have a land line so on mobile network, and it has its moments, it very often during a sesion slows right down and I have to close the system down and restart and all will be well again for a while, Rick

 

[clivvy]

You are right, pic loaded fine other day, now not having it, problem is I do not have a land line so on mobile network, and it has its moments, it very often during a sesion slows right down and I have to close the system down and restart and all will be well again for a while, Rick

hmm..not trying to preach, but if you are on mobile network, are you ensuring the pics you upload are ultra SMALL? I dont mean in screen size, I mean in memory size??

 

[tezzer]

joking apart , is it fairly common for this flywheel to go ? :nenau

dont worry pete, i had an idea it was the drive plate, i did mention it in a earlier post, normally they crack and knock like hell, or the centre tears out, easy to replace, chin up mate. :thumb2

 

[briggie]

dont worry pete, i had an idea it was the drive plate, i did mention it in a earlier post, normally they crack and knock like hell, or the centre tears out, easy to replace, chin up mate. :thumb2

thanks tezzer mate :thumb2 ... i realise i may be thinking in a negative mode at the moment ( and i mean no disrespect to anyone ) .. but i keep hearing how bullet proof the gearboxes are ( mine foofed up big time ) ok due to a non existant atf cooler , but.... i keep hearing how bulletproof the engine is ......see my point ? hardly instills confidence .... but on a good point .... what else can go wrong once this is fixed ? ( dont answer that lol )

 

[briggie]

thanks tezzer mate :thumb2 ... i realise i may be thinking in a negative mode at the moment ( and i mean no disrespect to anyone ) .. but i keep hearing how bullet proof the gearboxes are ( mine foofed up big time ) ok due to a non existant atf cooler , but.... i keep hearing how bulletproof the engine is ......see my point ? hardly instills confidence .... but on a good point .... what else can go wrong once this is fixed ? ( dont answer that lol )

on a good point .... im really happy paul thinks she is in good condition and far too good to be scrapped :thumb2

 

[briggie]

Chill Pete, it can be fixed. The worse case scenario is we will have to source a torque converter drive plate.

You truck is far too good to even consider breaking it...... I'm sure it would make a great banger for Rick :sly

if rick wants a banger , i know of a citroen saxo ( my sisters ) that er ... has had the front end " modified " by a wall :augie

 

[extreme-4x4]

ok i'll ask the question ...

this flywheel damage. could it be caused by the gearbox change. or not put back right.... only seems odd there was no noise before

probably going to upset some by asking ... but im curious. (not in the zippy way either paul)

 

[briggie]

ok i'll ask the question ...

this flywheel damage. could it be caused by the gearbox change. or not put back right.... only seems odd there was no noise before

probably going to upset some by asking ... but im curious. (not in the zippy way either paul)

im curious too