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I Hope i have this wrong, tax bands are increasing to reflect co2 output,currently my terrano sits in band f=260g/km. This will move to m=255g/km+, 400 quid... someone tell me i,m wrong? 8O
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no idea but you always get scare mongering rumours too. Also in previous years it has also gone on cars registered after a certain date. so don't panic and wait for the truth to come out.
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i have no idea and dont take this the wrong way but i sincerely hope you are completely wrong! what a scarey thought, attack the motorists again! :?
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from the independent http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/fuel-duty-rise-postponed-794632.html
it looks as if it is all aimed at newly made cars, so will affect us all eventualy.
He (darling)announced he was:
* Setting aside new funding to develop the technology which could underpin national road pricing, inviting tenders to test this with the results expected next year;
* Reforming capital allowances for business cars to increase the incentive to move to lower carbon-emitting cars;
* Proposing, from April 2009, a major reform to Vehicle Excise Duty (car tax) to encourage manufacturers to produce cleaner cars and, by introducing new bands, there will be an incentive to encourage drivers to choose the least-polluting car;
* Under this new regime, the most-polluting vehicles will face a VED rate of £425, while those emitting 150 grams or less of CO2 per kilometre will pay less;
* Introducing from April 2010 for new cars a new first-year VED rate based on carbon dioxide emissions of the car;
* Cars which emit less than the proposed 130 grams per kilometre European standard of carbon dioxide emissions will pay no car tax at all in the first year, but a higher first-year rate of £950 will be introduced for the most-polluting cars.
Mr Darling said: "It is right that if people choose to buy a more-polluting car that they should pay more in the first year to reflect the environmental cost.
"The changes will provide a real incentive to manufacturers and motorists."
The Treasury reckons that as a result of the reforms, the majority of motorists will be better or no worse off in 2009.
it looks as if it is all aimed at newly made cars, so will affect us all eventualy.
He (darling)announced he was:
* Setting aside new funding to develop the technology which could underpin national road pricing, inviting tenders to test this with the results expected next year;
* Reforming capital allowances for business cars to increase the incentive to move to lower carbon-emitting cars;
* Proposing, from April 2009, a major reform to Vehicle Excise Duty (car tax) to encourage manufacturers to produce cleaner cars and, by introducing new bands, there will be an incentive to encourage drivers to choose the least-polluting car;
* Under this new regime, the most-polluting vehicles will face a VED rate of £425, while those emitting 150 grams or less of CO2 per kilometre will pay less;
* Introducing from April 2010 for new cars a new first-year VED rate based on carbon dioxide emissions of the car;
* Cars which emit less than the proposed 130 grams per kilometre European standard of carbon dioxide emissions will pay no car tax at all in the first year, but a higher first-year rate of £950 will be introduced for the most-polluting cars.
Mr Darling said: "It is right that if people choose to buy a more-polluting car that they should pay more in the first year to reflect the environmental cost.
"The changes will provide a real incentive to manufacturers and motorists."
The Treasury reckons that as a result of the reforms, the majority of motorists will be better or no worse off in 2009.
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just been on Honest john web site,seems to be true..... 
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Don't know if it helps but just got my road tax reminder & it states the tax is £99 for 6months & £180 for 12 months :roll:
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my reminder for 6months,112 quid, 12months 205.as of tommorow rises to 210 quid
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when i first bought my t2 a friend said to me £400 a year for tax i near died so i checked it up on the internet and this link gave me all the answers
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
so any body with older vehicle don't worry yet
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
so any body with older vehicle don't worry yet
I hope that when we British motorists have paid all this so-called "anti-polution" tax, Mr Darling will ensure that the resultant clean air stays over Britain so that we can enjoy it.
With the current gales the lovely clean air we pay so much to produce will be over Scandanavia tomorrow. Will they be paying for it to be cleaned again? Get my drift?
We don't have too many volcanoes, sulphurous geysers, forest fires, steel works, charcoal factories, road trains etc. in the UK. How come we pay so much to combat the bit of polution we do produce? Couldn't be for Government revenues could it?
My blood pressure might become turbo-charged so i'll stop.
With the current gales the lovely clean air we pay so much to produce will be over Scandanavia tomorrow. Will they be paying for it to be cleaned again? Get my drift?
We don't have too many volcanoes, sulphurous geysers, forest fires, steel works, charcoal factories, road trains etc. in the UK. How come we pay so much to combat the bit of polution we do produce? Couldn't be for Government revenues could it?
My blood pressure might become turbo-charged so i'll stop.
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yeah have you ever seen the back of the priministers plane taking of at the airport i hope he is paying £50000 for his air tax the amount of emmissions come out there is more than all the club members put together javascript:emoticon(':twisted:')
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i am paying for iraq and it iritates. How must parents feel who have lost sons & daughters.
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a lot of good point and well made, but i have been 'surfing' and cant find anything conclusive for the latest budget plans, everything seems to be talking about previous changes or vague speculation on what might happen
but it appears the sitting duck motorist will pay through the nose again, when there are hundreds of environmental measures that go unexplored as they don’t directly improve the economy or increase tax revenue.
I could go on and on as environmental issues are a pet subject of mine but wont!
suffice to say if we are hammering motorists then to be honest it is about time new cars were hit, as the 3 year honey moon is too long, i also feel MOT tests from day 1 (this would ensure no manufacturing faults left until the warranty had expired) would raise revenue, improve safety and put an end to mileage fraud.
so next on my agenda, stupid lighting in banks shops etc, banning imported Chinese two stroke engines for mini motos etc. bring motorbike tax in line with car tax on the vehicles consumption and emissions, (not not just emissions) etc. etc.
for now i think we will have to cross our fingers and hope for the best, but at the end of the day you could always save a little and improve the environment by walking to work one day a week! but then you would still have to pay extortionate tax to leave the car at home!
but it appears the sitting duck motorist will pay through the nose again, when there are hundreds of environmental measures that go unexplored as they don’t directly improve the economy or increase tax revenue.
I could go on and on as environmental issues are a pet subject of mine but wont!
suffice to say if we are hammering motorists then to be honest it is about time new cars were hit, as the 3 year honey moon is too long, i also feel MOT tests from day 1 (this would ensure no manufacturing faults left until the warranty had expired) would raise revenue, improve safety and put an end to mileage fraud.
so next on my agenda, stupid lighting in banks shops etc, banning imported Chinese two stroke engines for mini motos etc. bring motorbike tax in line with car tax on the vehicles consumption and emissions, (not not just emissions) etc. etc.
for now i think we will have to cross our fingers and hope for the best, but at the end of the day you could always save a little and improve the environment by walking to work one day a week! but then you would still have to pay extortionate tax to leave the car at home!
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i think we are missing he point a bit i think the idea of hitting the big new 4x4 motors is not so much hitting the standerd everyday bloke in the street but the rich ones who can afford them now
but as the time goes on these new motors will get there way to the second hand motor market and you will then find the tax start hitting the bloke in the street.
as for planks idea of raising motorbike tax in line with car tax is not a good idea.
again the road tax is not just concerned with air pollution but takes in wear and tear on the roads themselves. and the bigger the vehicle the bigger the impact on the roads surfaces thats one of the reasons the goverment prefer three axle to two axle trailers on artics as they cause less dammage
that is also why you see artics with one axle up whn not fully loaded to save expense of tyres when not needed.
so let us not forget that emmisson is part of the story
but as the time goes on these new motors will get there way to the second hand motor market and you will then find the tax start hitting the bloke in the street.
as for planks idea of raising motorbike tax in line with car tax is not a good idea.
again the road tax is not just concerned with air pollution but takes in wear and tear on the roads themselves. and the bigger the vehicle the bigger the impact on the roads surfaces thats one of the reasons the goverment prefer three axle to two axle trailers on artics as they cause less dammage
that is also why you see artics with one axle up whn not fully loaded to save expense of tyres when not needed.
so let us not forget that emmisson is part of the story
All this is taken straight from the speech. So to me it says only new cars from 2009
Firstly, from April 2009, I am proposing a major reform to Vehicle Excise Duty to encourage manufacturers to produce cleaner cars and by introducing new bands, there will be an incentive to encourage drivers to choose the least polluting car.
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And as a second stage for new cars, from April 2010 there will be a new first-year rate based on carbon dioxide emissions of the car.
Cars that emit less than the proposed 130 grams per kilometre European standard of carbon dioxide emissions will pay no car tax at all in the first year.
But a higher first year rate will be introduced on the most polluting cars.
Firstly, from April 2009, I am proposing a major reform to Vehicle Excise Duty to encourage manufacturers to produce cleaner cars and by introducing new bands, there will be an incentive to encourage drivers to choose the least polluting car.
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And as a second stage for new cars, from April 2010 there will be a new first-year rate based on carbon dioxide emissions of the car.
Cars that emit less than the proposed 130 grams per kilometre European standard of carbon dioxide emissions will pay no car tax at all in the first year.
But a higher first year rate will be introduced on the most polluting cars.
I feel robbed anyway.. sold terrano 1993 2.7 td was paying £180.00 a year tax. bought a stupid little 2004 almera, 1.8 auto hatchback now paying £215.00 a year, where is the sence in that....
we have a scot in charge of our country, who nobody voted for, and to get into power organised a coo to kick out our previous not very good pm. is this not treason, punishable by hanging. the scots wanted there own parliment so why dont they all go back home and run it... cos most of the mp's in westminster are scots , and i believe there are only a couple of english mp's in the cabinet...
Sorry i am not rasist or what ever you call it these days... just want our country back, and to have a government with half a clue. when you run out of money common sence says stop spending... this government runs out of money, caries on spending and spending then wacks the taxes up to cover it......
What a bunch of hypocrits...
we have a scot in charge of our country, who nobody voted for, and to get into power organised a coo to kick out our previous not very good pm. is this not treason, punishable by hanging. the scots wanted there own parliment so why dont they all go back home and run it... cos most of the mp's in westminster are scots , and i believe there are only a couple of english mp's in the cabinet...
Sorry i am not rasist or what ever you call it these days... just want our country back, and to have a government with half a clue. when you run out of money common sence says stop spending... this government runs out of money, caries on spending and spending then wacks the taxes up to cover it......
What a bunch of hypocrits...
