Raising the terrano further

[AlexD333]

Alex mate, the enthusiasm is great but lets just think sensibly, for once :doh...


First, power to weight ratio isn't gonna be spectacular. BHP of the 4.2 turbo is less than the 3.0TDi - which is already available in the Terrano.

The 4.2's characteristic, the one that would make me swap my 3.0TDi for a 4.2 non turbo in an instant, is its reputation for having massive amounts of low down torque, from what I've heard, enough to tow a big fully loaded twin axle trailer up a hill at idle, along with the weight of the troll



Second, the Trol bonnet is BIG. Both the Y60 and Y61 Trol bonnets were designed to fit a 6cyl engine (4.2 & 2.8 are both 6 pot). Look at this pic from the Wales weekend, you can see the difference in bonnet length between Fez's Mav and my Trol (at least I can :nenau).



The 3.0 is a 4cyl so there is space in the engine bay that they (partly) fill with a longer fan shroud.


Third, as Patrolman said, think about the time, effort and money to make the engine/gearbox etc fit together. I know the 4.2 can slot straight into a 3.0 Trol but that's purely because they just moved a couple of engine mounts to fit the 3.0. You have to do a bit more if fitting the 4.2 into a 2.8 Trol.



If you really want a 4.2 diesel, just buy a Trol for crying out loud and get the cracking engine AND the front live axle :doh :thumbs

Yeah fair play, it seems like it's not really doable. And looking at that pic too... There is a bit of difference in size

I'll get one in the future though :naughty

 

[bud]

Alex mate, the enthusiasm is great but lets just think sensibly, for once :doh...


First, power to weight ratio isn't gonna be spectacular. BHP of the 4.2 turbo is less than the 3.0TDi - which is already available in the Terrano.

The 4.2's characteristic, the one that would make me swap my 3.0TDi for a 4.2 non turbo in an instant, is its reputation for having massive amounts of low down torque, from what I've heard, enough to tow a big fully loaded twin axle trailer up a hill at idle, along with the weight of the troll



Second, the Trol bonnet is BIG. Both the Y60 and Y61 Trol bonnets were designed to fit a 6cyl engine (4.2 & 2.8 are both 6 pot). Look at this pic from the Wales weekend, you can see the difference in bonnet length between Fez's Mav and my Trol (at least I can :nenau).



The 3.0 is a 4cyl so there is space in the engine bay that they (partly) fill with a longer fan shroud.


Third, as Patrolman said, think about the time, effort and money to make the engine/gearbox etc fit together. I know the 4.2 can slot straight into a 3.0 Trol but that's purely because they just moved a couple of engine mounts to fit the 3.0. You have to do a bit more if fitting the 4.2 into a 2.8 Trol.



If you really want a 4.2 diesel, just buy a Trol for crying out loud and get the cracking engine AND the front live axle :doh :thumbs

you are better off with the bell housing from a /rd28 patrol and engine from a nissan skyline as they run the same transmission, then you only have to worry about the engine mounts.....

 

[AlexD333]

you are better off with the bell housing from a /rd28 patrol and engine from a nissan skyline as they run the same transmission, then you only have to worry about the engine mounts.....

Skyline would have the torque?

and run on veggie? :naughty

Still a bit far fetched me thinks, ill jut maf amp it n hope for the best :lol

 

[Fez_uk]

Skyline would have the torque?

and run on veggie? :naughty

Still a bit far fetched me thinks, ill jut maf amp it n hope for the best :lol

It's petrol :doh

 

[daniel2609]

talking of engine swaps, this guy has put a Mitsubishi evo engine in his pajero!

top one:

http://www.filspajerosltd.com/for-sale.html

 

[russell.huffer]

This thread started as a question about lifting, 3 ways to go bigger wheels body lift or suspension lift.
Body lift this is only really done to give clearance to wheels and better approach angles can make car look strange as bumpers fitted to chasis.
Suspension lift gives a bit more clearance under gearbox etc and sills as does lift most of the car up but diffs stay low. problem is can put strain on drive shaft joints especialy if not a beam axle.
bigger wheels best lift going everthing gos higher so better ground clearance all round which is why other 2 lift types are mainly to accommodate bigger wheels. Problem with bigger wheels is also taller gearing on my Isuzu Trooper the bigger wheels made it hard work on the road as it slowed down at the slightest hill, can change diffs or transfer box ratios but costly.
Every time I have got stuck greenlining and needed towing out it is because the vehicle has been sat on its bottom ie the ruts where deep and diffs and gearbox meet the ground.
My Patrol as standared has 265/70/16 which is quite big but I would like either 285/75/16 or best of all 285/75/17 which would lift car quite a bit suspension wise I plan a 2" maybe 3" lift and then it will do most green lanes.
For green laning with ifs I would never lift suspension or body more than 2" as over that it would seem to be more for vanity than practicality.

Try and take a Patrol for test drive not much to speak about on the road but off road it just gos where you point it and brings massive smiles every time even the lowly 3.0

Kind regards

Russell.

 

[Paff]

How come the topics that Alex starts go on forever, page after page after page... :augie :naughty

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

I think it is because no-one wants Alex to have the last word...:lol

 

[Paff]

I think it is because no-one wants Alex to have the last word...:lol

Is that possible

 

[AlexD333]

Is that possible

:surrender

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

Is that possible

I wonder what it is like when Alex and his wife have a debate or argument, I bet even being a woman, she still does not get the last word in with him...:lol :augie

 

[AlexD333]

I wonder what it is like when Alex and his wife have a debate or argument, I bet even being a woman, she still does not get the last word in with him...:lol :augie

not atall, would you believe I don't wear the trousers! :lol

Besides guys ive gotta keep the posts fresh, no point asking the same questions all the time eh :augie thought id mix it up a bit, and this way I don't get in trouble for too many threads started :lol