Navara engine gone bang

[firebobby]

Good God no!!!!! the 3l Terrano has a, cough, splutter, Ren...Renault engine? (pun intended).
It was bad enough finding out (on here) that it had Renault axles.
Wish I'd known this before I bought it.... then I wouldn't have. Didn't buy an X-Trail diesel for that very same reason.
Despite learning to drive (or perhaps because?) in a Renault Dauphin (yes it was 50 years ago LOL), known un-afectionatley as the 'blind pig' due to it's rear engine making it unable to travel, or stop, in anything resembling a straight line, it also had the most complicated switch gear I've ever come across eg. 2 horn settings, multiple combinations of lights, some utterly unbelievable! It was also the only (ha, ha, really) reason I failed my first 3 driving tests.
I might be a tad biased but other Renaults of that era taught me otherwise, & I've seen no reason whatsoever to change my mind since. I much prefer vehicles with some concept of reliability.
Too late now but it's seriously shaken my confidence: I kid you not.
Fingers crossed from now on...............

So, you didn't read this then.....


Renault had nothing to do with the design/manufacture of theZD30 engine.
From another forum:
This comment comes up on occasion and a few years ago there was a reasonable debate on its authenticity. I heard there was even a press release relating to this, but the FACT is that not one bolt on a ZD30 is Renault. The FACT is that Renault adopted the ZD30 and a few smaller versions (ZD25) because they didn’t have a suitable diesel engine for their light truck and van market. The ZD30 Di was introduced to the Patrol long before it ever turned up in a Renault. Renault didn’t acquire an interest in Nissan until May 1999 and an agreement was made in November 2000 for Nissan to supply Renault with ZD engines.
Also another interesting fact is that the CRD was developed for the Renault supplied engines long before it came to Australia.

PRESS RELEASENovember 21, 2000.
For Immediate publication



Nissan Motor and Nissan Diesel
to supply Renault with Diesel engine



Nissan Motor, Nissan Diesel and Renault announced a long-term agreement today for Nissan Motor and Nissan Diesel to supply diesel (ZD) engines to Renault and Renault VI beginning in the spring of 2003. Under the agreement, production of the ZD engine will double as Renault and Renault VI purchase approximately 30,000 engines a year. These come in addition to the approximately 30,000 engines currently supplied to Nissan Motor.

Link if you want to read it all:
http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/151983-post16.html

 

[stinka]

Good God no!!!!! the 3l Terrano has a, cough, splutter, Ren...Renault engine? (pun intended).
It was bad enough finding out (on here) that it had Renault axles.
Wish I'd known this before I bought it.... then I wouldn't have. Didn't buy an X-Trail diesel for that very same reason.
Despite learning to drive (or perhaps because?) in a Renault Dauphin (yes it was 50 years ago LOL), known un-afectionatley as the 'blind pig' due to it's rear engine making it unable to travel, or stop, in anything resembling a straight line, it also had the most complicated switch gear I've ever come across eg. 2 horn settings, multiple combinations of lights, some utterly unbelievable! It was also the only (ha, ha, really) reason I failed my first 3 driving tests.
I might be a tad biased but other Renaults of that era taught me otherwise, & I've seen no reason whatsoever to change my mind since. I much prefer vehicles with some concept of reliability.
Too late now but it's seriously shaken my confidence: I kid you not.
Fingers crossed from now on...............

Also mate the later terranos didn't have Renault axles they had a c200 axle which has been around since the 70's its just that the planet gears and clutches/springs in the diff on the c200 that is fitted in later terranos after renault took over were made in china from poor steel compaired to early c200 axles

I read this on a French forum with google translate and I posted a thread about it on here somewhere with a link and pics. The guy stripped an early c200 diff and a late one and showed pics, gears on the early one were clearly harder metal and the teeth were sharp cut and bomb proof, whereas the newer c200 diff was made from shitty dull looking soft steel and the edges on the gears were all soft like they were bloody cast/moulded or sommit

 

[micktheshed]

3L Terrano engine source

Thanks for those replies stinka & firebobby, thought I'd finaly dropped a right clanger for a mo.
Can I put my mind at rest & risk un-crossing my fingers now then LOL?
My reply was before the other info was posted so perhaps I was a bit too quick off the ball? I'm very glad I joined this forum (doubly so now!), the info I've aquired pays for the cost on it's own.

 

[Kamsin]

Latest update......

The truck is going to Billcar to be fixed. They expecting it on Monday morning.

Nissan quote £4,000

Billcar £1,700

You do the math!

 

[cncfabs]

Latest update......

The truck is going to Billcar to be fixed. They expecting it on Monday morning.

Nissan quote £4,000

Billcar £1,700

You do the math!

Why not fit terrano 2.7 tdi with manual pump much cheaper than £1700

 

[solarman216]

Why not fit terrano 2.7 tdi with manual pump much cheaper than £1700

would he not also need the ECU and harness, I only say this as the engines and harness are different between the Mk1 and Mk2 petrol, Rick

 

[cncfabs]

would he not also need the ECU and harness, I only say this as the engines and harness are different between the Mk1 and Mk2 petrol, Rick

From what i have read if you fit maunual pump to the tdi you dont need the ecu goes back to normal engine with cable throttle etc

 

[solarman216]

From what i have read if you fit maunual pump to the tdi you dont need the ecu goes back to normal engine with cable throttle etc

OK sounds good, if I come across a manual pump I might try that on my off road motor as two meetings ago think I came very close to getting the throttle assembly submerged we were at about 30% front down in muddy water got very wet feet before managing to reverse back out of it, I hasten to add I was not driving, I would have taken it a lot slower and stopped well before, Rick

 

[stinka]

I'd seriously think about the td27 install as rick and cncfabs say

If its just a pump swap to make it work, it could be done by a half decent mechanic for around a grand

Pipe routing and engine mounts are the only grey area, I bet there is comprehensive info on the navara forum

 

[cncfabs]

I'd seriously think about the td27 install as rick and cncfabs say

If its just a pump swap to make it work, it could be done by a half decent mechanic for around a grand

Pipe routing and engine mounts are the only grey area, I bet there is comprehensive info on the navara forum

I read about it some time ago think its realtively straight forward.Do it yourself lot less than a grand ive got the engine and manual pump here:thumbs

 

[stinka]

There u go, WINNER

 

[spiderpig37]

Billcars will do a good job they sorted mine and you get 12months waranty on parts lot less hassle than sticking unknown lump in

 

[Tony]

Of all the engines that Billcar have worked on none to my knowlege have gone west. While its got its engine out ask dave(at Billcars) to check the clutch nothing like being sure. Cheaper to fit now than later. Bilcars reputation is second to none . Great outfit if you have the time read this
http://www.nissan-navara.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29558&hilit=hannah+77
Tony

 

[spiderpig37]

Did the navara get done at billcars how did it go?

 

[Kamsin]

New update.

Billcar price now gone from £1700 upto £3200.

£1700 was pluss tax @20% and now they found out the conrod went through the bolck so that needs replacing.

I dont hold them responsible for the price, as they quoted on what they expected the damage to be, but on inspection found more damage.

Still a better price than quoted form Nissan.

Should get the truck back after christmas now.

If you have this engine make sure its sorted before this happens to you..

 

[stinka]

Tbh that's ridiculous ! Might as well just burn money, bilcar are a fkn rip off, end of.

 

[TONUP]

That's a nightmare, but a good thread.

We have been warned. It would be helpful if anyone knew what models Nissan used this power plant in. I was thinking of a Pathfinder at some point. Not sure now if it uses this engine.

Thanks

Alan

 

[Tony]

These problems are only on the d22 the d40 of which the pathfinder is a derivitive are fine as its a different engine.
Tony.
The "problem" has been known for at least the last six years to my knowlege.

 

[cncfabs]

These problems are only on the d22 the d40 of which the pathfinder is a derivitive are fine as its a different engine.
Tony.
The "problem" has been known for at least the last six years to my knowlege.

And the primera,almera and xtrail which also use a 2.2 version of the same engine

 

[Bat21]

Tbh that's ridiculous ! Might as well just burn money, bilcar are a fkn rip off, end of.

Having dealt with Billcar for many years I can assure you ripping folk off is not something they are known for.

If further damage became evidant during there inspection did you expect them to cover that themselves :doh