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he KL71s weak point that I can see is only when it's proper wet boggy claggy mud, they dont seem to self clean then but then I wonder what else would
kingpin mud trackers.:sly
 
i agree with above im running BFG A/T's on my patrol and found them to be an excellent alrounder
 
i had a lad round mine last night when he came to pick other tyres up, he has had them and said they were quite bad in the wet to the point of loosing it round corners in a permanent 4wd landy, he said he would never buy them again, also mentioned a few others experience with them were very similar

personally i dont know, the tracker ii tyre tho was the same in the wet, havnt found the bfg muds that bad copaired to the others in the wet but are defo noisier than at's
 
not a chance

complete sh1t on my T2

Correct inflation, right direction :nenau

There far from $hit my friend.!

The noise thing is complete ballox, they're mucho quiet for a mud tyre :thumbs
Grip wise I've found them better than my Insa special tracks I had before, and seem to keep me up with the BFG mud shod landies with no bother,so there:p
There were some earlier models of the KLs that didnt wear very well and I think these are often confused in "my mate" tales.
The KL71s weak point that I can see is only when it's proper wet boggy claggy mud, they dont seem to self clean then:doh but then I wonder what else would:augie

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I got my new AT Insa Turbo Rangers fitted today. Obviously not done much driving on them yet but first impressions are good :thumb2 on a mixture of cleared roads, snow, slush & serious ice.
 
A point most have missed so far...

Its not the treads in the centre of the tyre that pull you through snow, its whats around the sides!

A good set of A/T's such as BFG or their Kingpin copy (which i'm running a new set of on the G.C) have big side treads so when the centre treads fill with snow the sides keep you going!
Another bonus of A/Ts over muds is in wet or slushy snow theres more rubber cutting through to the tarmac, giving more grip.

On the other hand I used to love driving un-driven snow covered roads with my sammy. I had Insa Turbo Sahara / Yokohama Geolander tread (they were actually greenway machos) and found that they were unreal for climbing the lightweight suzuki through 2 feet + snow. No way an A/T would have allowed that!

I believe the general belief around most off-road clubs is that aggressive A/Ts make the best all rounder for snow / icy conditions, but if you go extreme you are bound to need extreme tyres :thumb2

These are what i'm running, and I gotta say they are a bargain for the price!

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Also a note from the trade...

In the next few weeks most tyre manufacturers are having a price increase to reflect the international tyre shortage (Kingpin are expected to price themselves out of the market)
Then after Christmas everything is going up 2.5% due to the VAT rise...
So in less than one month tyres are going to bump up in price! Anyone interested in new rubber I recommend getting sorted quick to take advantage of the current lower prices.
If anyone needs help i'm more than happy to assist.
 
end of the day every tyre has it's pros and cons.
 
Correct inflation, right direction :nenau

There far from $hit my friend.!



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unfortunately imho they are close to useless in snow, tar they are fine, laning fine

i have the proof of the pudding outside attached to my terrano
 
is that 5mph faster or slower than the speedo reading?

They tend to be out around 10% (under-reading that is!) on average but best checked against a satnav. Its variable and I have had cars, like a Honda HRV VTEC, that was spot-on....the old beemer isn't far out either, always best to check your vehicle yourself.

It means all these T2 owners that think they are getting 26mpg are closer to 23mpg in the real world.....:(
 
end of the day every tyre has it's pros and cons.

couldn't put it better myself.....as Abraham Lincoln said (in the Gettysburg Address if you are interested!)..."you can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time!):thumb2
 
same mate they are about 5mph lower than stated
 
My G.C is terrible! I think its designed for much bigger wheels than what is supplied standard...
When goiung through one of those speed checkers my speedo reads about 33/34mph but the speed sign states around 28mph!
Wondered why folk were flying past me when my speedo is reading 70 :rolleyes:
 
My G.C is terrible! I think its designed for much bigger wheels than what is supplied standard...
When goiung through one of those speed checkers my speedo reads about 33/34mph but the speed sign states around 28mph!
Wondered why folk were flying past me when my speedo is reading 70 :rolleyes:

My T2 is the opposite,
the speedo shows i am going 4 miles an hour slower than i actually am, according to my sat nav anyway. Till reading this i thought it was my sat nav that was wrong as i am running the standard tyre size.
 
When goiung through one of those speed checkers my speedo reads about 33/34mph but the speed sign states around 28mph!

Dont go by those checkers especially with only that difference, most are way out :thumb2 one by us (I guess it must be battery os solar powered) has real wobblers but is ususally conked out the next tie you go past. I was apparently doing 50 odd in a 30 following a tractor not so log back :nenau
 
always been a fan of at2 as a 50/50

but now looking at cooper st, called 60/40 off/road
and bigger brother stt the mudder.

the st is called at to mt so bit more mud than an at
but not full blown mt of the stt!

also good range of sizes, indeed about only new mud
found in my 265/70 16 troll fitment.
 

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