Misfuelled. What now?

[lacroupade]

try looking at the earth straps.. barty to car and engin to car. both i belive can cause this trouble.

also from my owm T2 the battery clapms themslevs can crack, and not alow enough power through, but have enough for all other elctric things..

The mans right, if your battery clamps look at all dodgy (and the damage can be hidden under insulation) swap them for decent clamps from your local motor factor, cheap and easy. They are a known weakness....

Tell us whats written on this battery - how many ampere hours and what cranking amps? Needs to be 70-95 Ah (higher the better) and at least 600-800 cranking amps....the glow plugs take a lot out, especially as the battery keps them on for 10 minutes or so after starting

 

[zippy656]

The mans right, if your battery clamps look at all dodgy (and the damage can be hidden under insulation) swap them for decent clamps from your local motor factor, cheap and easy. They are a known weakness....

Tell us whats written on this battery - how many ampere hours and what cranking amps? Needs to be 70-95 Ah (higher the better) and at least 600-800 cranking amps....the glow plugs take a lot out, especially as the battery keps them on for 10 minutes or so after starting

hay im getting good at this lark!!

 

[wanaron]

Thanks Zippy. if the thaw out continues, will have a look on Saturday see what the straps and clamps are like. Not to much of a problem at the moment cos she,s off the road, ( didnt time that to well did i with the recent weather)as ive already posted. but am keen to keep turning her over. Got a few jobs to do for the ticket, but need to keep her running meantime

Wayne

 

[wanaron]

just been out and looked at the battery, Its a Halfords Hb334, all it says on it is starting power of 740 amps. as i say bought it last year, aint given me any problems, but then they never do in good weather do they.

Wayne

 

[zippy656]

Thats ok,

here to help, even if only remember where some thing was posted before

 

[mikep]

i know it s abit late too add this but i used to have isuzu troopers and their handbook recomended adding some petrol to the diesel! though i do beleive it was a max of 10%,

I used to have a VW Golf in the early seventies and the handbook recommended up to 30% petrol to diesel during severe cold weather.That was in the days before winter fuel additives were in general use. If manufacturer claims 30% ok then 40% ish may just do ok if driven with some care. Have started to fill up with petrol myself once ,but luckily the wind blew the fumes at me before I had put more than a couple of gallons in !
Mikep

 

[mikep]

seem to have put the above in the wrong slot,or just too slow!

 

[lacroupade]

just been out and looked at the battery, Its a Halfords Hb334, all it says on it is starting power of 740 amps. as i say bought it last year, aint given me any problems, but then they never do in good weather do they.

Wayne

Sounds well up to the job then, so next stop = earthing straps :thumbs

 

[zippy656]

Sounds well up to the job then, so next stop = earthing straps :thumbs

and as your out in the cold battery terminals

 

[wanaron]

Not in the wrong Slot MikeP, after all the original thread was on misfuelling. Just that other problems have come along so the thread has moved a bit.

Well been under the motor today, cant see a problem with either the battery clamps or the earth straps, all seem in good nick and tight. Put the battery on after another long trickle charge, and she started. left her idling for a good half hour with no demand on the battery,- no lights on or heater blowing or anything. turned her off, then she was turning over very slowly, so slow in fact wouldnt start:nenau
What can be taking the power out of the battery.? Dazed and confused.

Wayne

 

[sidsid06]

.hi.. not taking the pi.s. had the same problem on 1 of my diggers bought new batterys....ect the fault was the alternator and the light was not even on on dash to say their was a fault!!!you checked alternator? mine was a loose wire inside and it would drain the battery with in a hour

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

i agree on the altenator thing it is a definate possibility, i haven't read the whole thread and you may have tried this, but if you have a multimeter, disconnect one side of the battery and put it inline to test the amps being drawn when the vehicle is not runnig to see if there are any shorts. if thee are you can then work through the possibilities acording to the amps drawn.

also with a meter you can test across the terminals (volts) with the engine off, and again with it running it should be a volt or so higher with the engine running that way you will know if it is the altenator not charging properly.

 

[wanaron]

Will borrow a decent meter off the spark at work and do these checks. Did think myself that the alternator was a strong contender for where the fault lies. As ive said previously, aint been entirel happy for a while now with the speed its been turning over. Not bad with the spanners but electrics im not good at.

Wayne

 

[sidsid06]

electricks i no what you me they are a nightmare also on your truck if not the alternator you could have a lazy starer motor? when truck is running are all the light ie headlamps bright?ect.. and dont get brighter as you rev the engine???? also i know a chap on his trooper it was the ignition barrel a little spray of wd40 fixed his sorry for giving you all theis opptions:lol let you do 1 a time:thumbs

 

[Hilltop]

Well been under the motor today, cant see a problem with either the battery clamps or the earth straps, all seem in good nick and tight. Put the battery on after another long trickle charge, and she started. left her idling for a good half hour with no demand on the battery,- no lights on or heater blowing or anything. turned her off, then she was turning over very slowly, so slow in fact wouldnt start:nenau
What can be taking the power out of the battery.? Dazed and confused.

Wayne

WITH NO DEMAND ON THE BATTERY ?? What about the 80 amps going to the glow plugs from cold with very little charge at tickover speed.


Bob





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[lacroupade]

The mans right, if your battery clamps look at all dodgy (and the damage can be hidden under insulation) swap them for decent clamps from your local motor factor, cheap and easy. They are a known weakness....

Tell us whats written on this battery - how many ampere hours and what cranking amps? Needs to be 70-95 Ah (higher the better) and at least 600-800 cranking amps....the glow plugs take a lot out, especially as the battery keeps supplying them 10 minutes or so after starting

I'm with Bob as per his reminder below (and my earlier comment above!). You really need a good old-fashioned all-night charge if you are going to do it properly.....

WITH NO DEMAND ON THE BATTERY ?? What about the 80 amps going to the glow plugs from cold with very little charge at tickover speed.


Bob





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[sidsid06]

any luck with finding the fault on your truck? it dose sound to me like the trouble i had alternator if the battery had enough poke to start it from cold? it should be able to start it from warm straight after turning it off!! you tryed a jump start to see if it starts any better pulling power from another car!!!

 

[wanaron]

Not having any luck at all. bought meter to check firstly power in the battery after an all night charge, was reading over 13 volts. Then was going to check it when it run to see if the alternator was putting anything back into it, but didnt get that far, fully charged battery wont start the car now:nenau. Really am getting confused and P****d off. took the battery back off and put on charge ( reading part charged). meter reading just over 12 volts.
What is going on?
Looks like going to have to bring in an Auto Electrician to get to the bottom of this. Any one know of any in the Cannock/ midlands area?

Wayne

 

[mobyone]

turning over slowly is signs of a bad earth. put jump lead from battery terminal to straight to the starter and earth the starter body to the -ve post. then turn the engine over and you will see if the motor turns fast or slow. if slow still it might be the windings in your starter, but more than likely the earth from chassis to starter body. might be lose connections at the starter from battery though. wont be a hard fault to find. just make sure you put the jump leads on the correct way around or you will let the smoke out of something, lol.

 

[sidsid06]

Not having any luck at all. bought meter to check firstly power in the battery after an all night charge, was reading over 13 volts. Then was going to check it when it run to see if the alternator was putting anything back into it, but didnt get that far, fully charged battery wont start the car now:nenau. Really am getting confused and P****d off. took the battery back off and put on charge ( reading part charged). meter reading just over 12 volts.
What is going on?
Looks like going to have to bring in an Auto Electrician to get to the bottom of this. Any one know of any in the Cannock/ midlands area?

Wayne

hi..arnt the electricks a joy have you tryed a jump start? your simptons sounds very similar to my freinds trooper that was a 98 year he changed his battery starter motor,and alternator..it turned out to be the ignition switch.... sometimes it would go and then nothing dont no if if your truck would have the same problem as its a nissan .. i no what you meen by getting pi...d off, just hang in their and your get to the bottom of it!:clap