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I know theyve been mentioned on here before, but is anyone actually using one of the kenlowe preheaters? are they any good?

I reckon theres a chance one of the southern softies'll be using one, but Im not too proud to admit I wouldnt mind one either :D
 
id like one too.

did a bit of reading up..

just cost to much to buy, but got eyes open on ebay.
 
Used to see them on ambulances, so you could jump in and drive away ( unplugging the socket first of course). regards bri
 
Used to see them on ambulances, so you could jump in and drive away ( unplugging the socket first of course). regards bri

:thumb2:lol:lol:lol

LMAO, our county fire engines have so much kit on now the batteries cant keep everything on standby when theyre parked up engine off so they too plug in when on station.
Lets just say ,Im told, that before they got the quick/auto drive off release type, the electrical repair man was kept busy due to crew memory problems :lol

Anyway I doubt youll jave much luck on ebay at the mo Zippy, supply and demand.
 
i've found when pre-heating a tractor, puting a potato sack under the sump and setting light to it works very well! :thumb2
 
My father had an electric heater with a pump on his disco, that was mains driven, so it kept the block warm, and the interior heater was warm on start up. Started easier as well. I prefer a warm garage myself for my mav on these cold days.
 
So we all have little heaters on our motors plugged into the mains, to keep them snug and warm so that when we go to our motors in the morning we get in and have instant heat so we do not have to bother with scraping the frost of the windows, how many megga watts of power is this going to take country wide? I shudder to think, just so you do not have to use an ice scraper, WTF get real, for the emergency services OK but Joe public get up a bit earlier, Rick
 
So we all have little heaters on our motors plugged into the mains, to keep them snug and warm so that when we go to our motors in the morning we get in and have instant heat so we do not have to bother with scraping the frost of the windows, how many megga watts of power is this going to take country wide? I shudder to think, just so you do not have to use an ice scraper, WTF get real, for the emergency services OK but Joe public get up a bit earlier, Rick

very good point Rick, but hoe many people leave the engine idling to get the car warm? and how much fule does this use as compare to the electri heating? I suppose it all depends on the wattage of the heating system.

Some things can be deceifing -example! A double electric blanket, only uses (on a low setting) about 25 watts, so if you turn your heating doem and put your lecky blanky on = power saved! could this be another example of this?

worth checking the maths out first!
 
all very good points , but consider this with regard to preheating , even after i have scraped the ice/frost/snow from the windscreen , within a few seconds its misted up again due to the heater not blowing hot enough air , so i sit in the car with the engine running untill the heater starts to blow warm air ..... unless anyone has any viable solutions ........


expectantly and excited in brighouse
 
If you are going to use one, better off aiming for a much lower temperature.
Anything significantly above zero (20~30 deg?) would help for a faster warm up with less engine wear...
 
like i said else where on here, get a little 12v plug in heater...
 
like i said else where on here, get a little 12v plug in heater...

zippy you have a point mate, i have a cpuple of them little heaters in the shed, i'm going to find one out tomorrow to help clear the screen in the mornings!
 
I think Rick probably remembers walking to school with no shoes and living in a cardboard box in middle't road so he could get up before he went to bed in order to do a 25 hr shift in t'mill.

And Rick I am very real...............................

These heaters probably dont use much more if any more energy at all than pre warming by engine running when used intelligently. Saying dont use them because itll drain the grid is a bit like working out a morning breakfast rota for a housing estate so that kettle boiling and bacon grilling doesnt draw on the system too hard. It happens and theres capacity.

If you want to do the green argument, warm cars start better and wear less,use less fuel, use less oil therefore you can expect to undertake less repairs, replace fewer batteries and starter motors, therefore the factories wont use energy to make new ones thus carbo emmisions in the long term bigger picture will be lower

For most of us urban dwellers even the noise of ice scraping let alone engine running would annoy the neighbours when I leave at 5am or get called out during the night.

Setting off in a warm car to keep internal windows etc clear and transmitted or conducted heat keeping externals warmer and helping prevent further icing is very very useful not to mention safer.

On the subject of 3kw, timer switch so it comes on just before you want it for scheduled use and coupled with its own thermostat....top value :thumb2

With comfort to boot ...............lets be honest anyone can slum it.

So is anyone using one????? ;)
 
even after i have scraped the ice/frost/snow from the windscreen , within a few seconds its misted up again due to the heater not blowing hot enough air , so i sit in the car with the engine running untill the heater starts to blow warm air .

Agreed and consider that with my going out a 5am point, I dont think many of the neighbours would be on very good talking terms afterwards :augie
 
http://www.kenlowe.com/pre-heaters/cars/spec.html
just looked up the specs Rick has a definite point 3000 watts! :eek:
an exspensive way to keep warm!

You don't have them on 24/7 only 15-20minutes before you are ready to go.

Less than 10 p per day, compare that to running the engine for 20 minutes and running the risk of having it stolen with the keys in.:eek:

In Minnesota they have electrical connections for leaving the vehicle at the side of the road, the cars have heaters and pumps. When the temperature is -35C you need to do something.

In Canada, cars have remote starting, and you can start them from a distance away, and when you get to it it is warm, and thawed out.
They can't be nicked since they don't have the key, the doors are locked and if you select drive they cut out.

My method is the most eco friendly, warm garage. :thumb2

When I say warm garage, it is integral to the house so never gets too cold and damp.
 
eco friendly depends on your point of view, flue-gas gypsum making all that cement, all those oven baked bricks, all that co2 emisons fomr the build, and it would take a lot of garages for us to have one each :thumbs

environmental issues are allways 'subjective' like the damage done by all those hundreds of thosands of tons off rock salt, plus the fuel used to mine it and spread it as opposed to making snow chains mandatory as in many eu countries :)
 

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