If only he used chains!

[gazterrano]

cant see owt wrong!

 

[stinka]

Joking apart I heard about this guy getting crushed instantly to death by a 1 ton compressor he had in the back of a hilux after hard braking to avoid an obstacle

 

[gazterrano]

Joking apart I heard about this guy getting crushed instantly to death by a 1 ton compressor he had in the back of a hilux after hard braking to avoid an obstacle

yeah very possible, just shows the importance of tying the job down, not so sure about the huge boulder wrong choice of truck :doh

 

[11redrex]

Might have helped if the container doors were at the back ??

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

I saw something very much like this happen in Dudley a couple of months ago (by the Pegasus island) the load, looked like sacks shrink wrapped on pallets had gone straight through the front of the trailer and crushed the cab! Didn't help that the fork lift truck on the back had fallen off! caused some pretty long queues!! :doh

 

[762buzz]

i spent 2 hrs on M1 waiting for fire men to cut some one out for truck that looked like that

hit concrete barrier and steel in back slide into cab making it look same shape

 

[gazterrano]

I saw something very much like this happen in Dudley a couple of months ago (by the Pegasus island) the load, looked like sacks shrink wrapped on pallets had gone straight through the front of the trailer and crushed the cab! Didn't help that the fork lift truck on the back had fallen off! caused some pretty long queues!! :doh

as a driver bet he knew it happened :doh:doh:doh:doh

 

[christof30]

I know someone who threw a couple off thousand onion bargees out the back of a luton because they werent going far and thought it would be a good idea to save time by one of them standing in the back and holding the wheeled shelves. :doh

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

sobering, as you think when in a car you are going to come off worse
with a truck. but seen more truck drivers crushed between their load
and someone elses.

like modern buses the cabs seem to be built of balsa wood and thats
the good ones.

 

[gazterrano]

sobering, as you think when in a car you are going to come off worse
with a truck. but seen more truck drivers crushed between their load
and someone elses.

like modern buses the cabs seem to be built of balsa wood and thats
the good ones.

you think driving a large heavy truck nothings gonna stop ya & then the only separation between you & that heavy load can be just a simple tin cab!

 

[solarman216]

View attachment 2542 cant see owt wrong!

if the container was loaded correctly IE the load placed up against the front bulkhead, AND the container loaded onto the truck with the door at the rear, this would never have happened, looks to me like the load was correct but container on the truck wrong so load has sliding space to gather momentum before hitting doors which could not possibly take the force, so driver error, I would never have accepted a container with doors forward, Rick

 

[Kamsin]

Did some work on this subject for work. turns out a 25kilo weight at 30mph has the impact force of 3 tons......YES 3 Tons. So think of that next time you load your tool box in the back. Mine is always strapped dow with a ratchet strap in the truck. :thumbs

 

[Kamsin]

if the container was loaded correctly IE the load placed up against the front bulkhead, AND the container loaded onto the truck with the door at the rear, this would never have happened, looks to me like the load was correct but container on the truck wrong so load has sliding space to gather momentum before hitting doors which could not possibly take the force, so driver error, I would never have accepted a container with doors forward, Rick

The load restraint on rear doors only has to be 7 tons. As you point out this was loaded the wrong way round on the truck, not the load inside it. After all they dont expect you to reverse into some thing at 56 mph. The bulkhead has to be of strenth to hold the full weight of the load in an impact or it would fail in its "Construction and use" ratings.
The sliding force (Kinnetic energy) has no relevance as its already moving with the vehicle and would still have burst through the "Rear" door in this instance.
Jesus im such a Geek at times, but that my job at work for you. :lol

 

[solarman216]

The sliding force (Kinnetic energy) has no relevance as its already moving with the vehicle and would still have burst through the "Rear" door in this instance.
Jesus im such a Geek at times, but that my job at work for you. :lol[/QUOTE]

Have to correct you there, when I said sliding force I was referring to any gap that was between the bulkhead and the load, on impact if there is a gap then the load can attain a momentum in excess of the momentum of the vehicle as a whole, Rick

 

[Kamsin]

I know what your saying, but tests have proven it makes no differance. Its the same force that is pushing on the door even if it slides into it.
The kinetic energy would still = the same. If you tip the container on end loaded then it will hold, if you shook it (I know this sounds daft) then the kinetic energy would then be increased and it would bust through. However the energy is already in the load as the vehicle is traveling at 56mph to begin with, the shake if you will.
It sounds wrong and i also argued the point till it was proven to me.
I believe it was conducted by MIRA although i stand to be corrected, it was a couple of years ago i did this work.
Its the same as two vehicle traveling towards each other at 50pmh, people think the impact would then be an impact of 100mph, 50mph + 50mph = 100mph, when in fact its still an impact of 50mph.

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

must have been fun getting rock in the box,

wonder how they planned to get it out, obviously
not like this...

wonder what it weighed must be pretty dense, bit
like the loaders....

 

[rustic]

Its the same as two vehicle traveling towards each other at 50pmh, people think the impact would then be an impact of 100mph, 50mph + 50mph = 100mph, when in fact its still an impact of 50mph.

Not true if the masses are different.
Eg a fiesta hits a 38 tonne truck head on at 50 mph, the truck will continue at close to 50 mph, and the fiesta is now travelling at nearly 50 mph in the opposite direction.

In fact the fiesta could travel much faster like a bat and ball.
Mind you it wouldn't be a fiesta anymore would it.:doh

 

[fridgman]

Newtons first law of motion:
The velocity of a body remains constant unless the body is acted upon by an external force

So whatever speed the truck was travelling at the block was doing the same. When the truck stopped the block carried on in a forward motion at the same speed unless it was slowed down by external force such as friction on the floor. It definitely did not speed up.

 

[solarman216]

I know what your saying, but tests have proven it makes no differance. Its the same force that is pushing on the door even if it slides into it.
The kinetic energy would still = the same. If you tip the container on end loaded then it will hold, if you shook it (I know this sounds daft) then the kinetic energy would then be increased and it would bust through. However the energy is already in the load as the vehicle is traveling at 56mph to begin with, the shake if you will.
It sounds wrong and i also argued the point till it was proven to me.
I believe it was conducted by MIRA although i stand to be corrected, it was a couple of years ago i did this work.
Its the same as two vehicle traveling towards each other at 50pmh, people think the impact would then be an impact of 100mph, 50mph + 50mph = 100mph, when in fact its still an impact of 50mph.

Oh no no. if you have a box travelling at x miles per hour with another box inside that is say 5 feet from the front bulk head, and the first box hits something that does not move, then the second box will travel at the same speed until it hits hits the first box front at considerable force, likely breaking through the first box into whatever stopped the first box, Rick