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it was previously brought up in recent threads.
I have tweeked the turbo with slight room for improvement maybe 1 or 2 more turns.
how do I tweek the ip to give more fuel to suit turbo?

I want more power before I fit 33s

I want to do every engine boosting mod possible before remap.
then its the steering beef up.
 
Electronic IP can only be "tweaked" erm electronically. So you'll need a tuning box, and /or a MAF amp or even a power remap.
BUT I understood there's a limit to what the IP can do and it's not that much ?
As mentioned recently there's supposed to be a way to fit the old skool mechanical pump and retro fit a throttle cable. Injectors too will limit how much fuel can be squirted in, but I've know idea how they can be modified ? :nenau
 
The swap can be done with the engine in place.

parts required. a IP from a factory turbo TD27T. (complete)
The accelerator cable from the said donor vehicle.
A 3 ml T piece and half a meter of rubber tubing.
Tube of liquid gasket.

The mechanical pump uses boost pressure to vary the fuel load throughout the RPM range.
This is the diapram housing you can see atop the mechanical pump.
there are three fuel lines.

The main one here is the infeed from the filter
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The two here, the smaller one returns from the injectors and the larger returns to the tank.

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take note of the timing mark on the cover.
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there are two marks on the harmonic balancer(crank shaft pulley) when the position of the first mark lines up this is TDC the second mark will line up when the marks on the injector pump sprokets lines up.


there are two marks either side of one tooth on the injector pump sproket and one mark on the drive sproket.
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confirm this before undoing anything other then the timing gear cover, as all engines are tuned/set up slightly different


for the ETI engine, you will need to remove vaccum pump from below the Injector pump to access the bottom of the three bolts holding the IP to the timing housing.
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Annoying with limited movement 12 ml ratchet spanner is the best thing since sliced bread in this department as there is not enough clearance for a socket and ratchet.

Now the important part..

when installing the pump don't tighten the 3 bolts that hold the pump to the housing right up...fairly tight but not that tight you couldn't move the pump with a pry bar(the 3 holes are slotted for a reason)

the timing will not be perfect but to get it drivable straight away do not undo this bolt on the bracket...only the two that bolt it to the engine block..the aforementioned bolt resides in a slotted hole and needs to be loosened in order to adjust the timing. loosen it without bolting to the block first you lose the abililty to set the timing with a range that will allow the engine to run the first time you try to start it.
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When you first start the truck for the first time it rattles more then it did before the timing is too advanced..you will need to loosen the aforementioned bolt get a pry bar and stick it between the block and the pump and force the bottom of the pump away from the block...be careful..you only need to make very small adjustments.

The accelerator cable is pretty self explainatory. you will need to unbolt your pedal and remove the plate from behind it in order to feed the cable through the fire wall. the hole and the bolts are covered by rubber gromets.

The picture below is the fuel adjustment screw...when you adjust this you also need to adjust the idle screw on the cable linkage as the more you adjust this the higher your idle will go too.
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there are two types of mechanical pumps. one wire and two wire.
one wire is the fuel shut off solenoid that both types will have. the other is the fast idle for cold starting etc and allows extra fuel in (that switch on your dash board that says (HEAT UP)....thats what it will be wired too.
 
I forgot to mention.... the rubber hose needs to be plumbed into the gose that operates the wastegate actuator on your turbo charger...the other end to the diaphram atop the injector pump
 
Brilliant write up Bud, thanks :D
Do you know what sort of power range this pump can help deliver ?

I have not had mine on a rolling road, how ever it will boost 24 psi ..which is enough to get you power sliding on tarseal.

The safe limit we have discovered for the factory turbo charger is about 18 psi after that you will need a turbo with better spec internals.


this is the result of running a factory turbo at 24 psi.

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ON a side note... The signal for the tachometer comes from the ETI pump. on the non eti pump this signal came from a two wire magnetic sender screwed into the housing directly above the injector pump sproket.... it would use the teeth of the sproket for the pulse to give the reading.
 
I've had my turbo cartridge rebuilt with 360 bearings and a bigger compressor wheel . I'm running LPG injection on mine as I didn't realise the mech pump was an option :rolleyes: Things are looking up :naughty
I've fitted the clutch kit from a 3.0 ltr on mine to cope with the extra power too :sly
There was a member on here a few years back and was running 220 BHP but kept blowing head gaskets :doh and that was on a TDi
 
awesome stuff bud. all I need to do then is book mark this page and get my mechanic mate translate it :lol

and as it goes I know my mate has just swapped the engine for a bloke who has 3 tds and is thinking of scrapping two of them so I will put dibs on the ips:D
 
just been doing a bit of light reading:eek:

is it advisable to fit an exhaust temp gauge before beefing up power:nenau
I belive it gives you a good idea to prevent going too much and blowing head gaskets:nenau.

im going into unknown territory. I haven't got a clue about mechanics but trying to get to grips with it:augie

im already trying to source I mech pump. (I may have one:thumb2)and by all accounts I will need to beef up the turbo too:sly

last thing I want to do is destroy my car. but I am getting quite addicted to modding me lovelly:D

if I do a mech pump fit will that do away with the need for a remap?

this is all exploratory for me so far.but it sounds a good idea to get rid of that fly by wire shit:nenau
 
just been doing a bit of light reading:eek:

is it advisable to fit an exhaust temp gauge before beefing up power:nenau
I belive it gives you a good idea to prevent going too much and blowing head gaskets:nenau.

im going into unknown territory. I haven't got a clue about mechanics but trying to get to grips with it:augie

im already trying to source I mech pump. (I may have one:thumb2)and by all accounts I will need to beef up the turbo too:sly

last thing I want to do is destroy my car. but I am getting quite addicted to modding me lovelly:D

if I do a mech pump fit will that do away with the need for a remap?

this is all exploratory for me so far.but it sounds a good idea to get rid of that fly by wire shit:nenau

Yes fit a pyro gauge.
yes beef up the turbo
throw the ECU in the bin or sell it and the pump to some one you don't like..
mechanical also means you can now go swimming in your truck up to the snorkel.
 
awesome stuff bud. all I need to do then is book mark this page and get my mechanic mate translate it :lol

and as it goes I know my mate has just swapped the engine for a bloke who has 3 tds and is thinking of scrapping two of them so I will put dibs on the ips:D

Your mechanic mate is going to kick you in the nuts when you show him this :nenau

Unless you take a big wad of money with you :naughty

I agree with fez, do the maf first. Cheapest mod surely :thumb2
 
Your mechanic mate is going to kick you in the nuts when you show him this :nenau

Unless you take a big wad of money with you :naughty

I agree with fez, do the maf first. Cheapest mod surely :thumb2

my nuts are made of steel:D
going have a chat with him about it.

as for the serious money bit errrmm....

who cares about cheapest options:nenau

I have reduced all my toys Bikes cars campervans to this one beauty of a beast:D

I have spent literally thousands on previous toys and sold them at a loss:doh

I now have one car and it is having all my attention.
the body work and chassis are mint.
its staying in my family until such a time as its completely foofed.

and then I will buy another t2:D

and then I will take all modded parts and wack em on the new one:D

oh and did I say my mechanic is a genius and is a very good friend:D
 
got a mech pump for 100 notes if I want it :D
goin have a chat with my mate tomoz:D
if its too much of a ball ache its a maf and remap:D
 
I have been to see my mechanic friend who has a good mech pump for 100 notes:D

as for fitting he said it was a piece of piss:D

so I can get this job done probably under 200 notes:D

but his question was.

He cant see how a pump from a 112bhp td can produce more power than the standard tdi with a remap:nenau
 
112 is over optimistic :lol
Anyway the way I understand it is you can basically over fuel the system and that allows you to run higher boost. Therefore more oxygen = more bang . Add a bigger intercooler and a straight through exhaust and things are looking up :sly
Now add some lpg and BOOM big power gains that will defo need the 3.0 ltr clutch :naughty
 

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