Yes Willow you are right there has been far too much out of order stuff lately and as such I have refrained from getting involved, I saw no point, and I make no direct comment now, although I could, but what would be the point, I see this club as an information place for Nissan owners, and if we want to have a bit of off topic banter then thats great, but I draw the line on public displays of, what can I say other than rubbish derogatory remarks on another member, I saw this developing before Xmas and new it would end this way, I sincerely hope the club continues in the way that it that it was when I joined just over a year ago, personal stuff can be confined to PM not on the public forum, I have not quite addressed that correctly but I think you all know what I mean, Rick