Help! with Clutch Damper

[solarman216]

What a palaver, you mean you cannot drive your motor without a clutch? then I say learn to drive, I can drive any where with no clutch disengagement as long as I have a good battery and not in heavy traffic, Rick

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

What a palaver, you mean you cannot drive your motor without a clutch? then I say learn to drive, I can drive any where with no clutch disengagement as long as I have a good battery and not in heavy traffic, Rick

Ahhh..but you were invented before the clutch, they never had them on steam engines...:lol:lol:augie:augie

 

[spiderpig37]

Nowt wrong with steam im making 125ib of the stuff at the moment:clap

 

[solarman216]

Ahhh..but you were invented before the clutch, they never had them on steam engines...:lol:lol:augie:augie

you are right there, but would love a challenge to go from here to Scotland without a clutch pedal, may be even with the trailer loaded, Rick

 

[solarman216]

Nowt wrong with steam im making 125ib of the stuff at the moment:clap

Interested, what you doing, Rick

 

[rustic]

Using the brake flexi in place of a standard clutch pipe, could have been the cheap fix that NISSAN wanted all along.

This would also act as a damper.

BUT instead they chose to run 12 feet of steel pipe to corrode and stick an expensive bleed nipple on it.

The reason it was installed was because on a few vehicles were having vibration problems on the clutch, this fixed the few they had so they rolled it out across the range to save fixing it again.

The chances are... it is not really needed.:doh

On the Picasso there is a half kg lump of steel in a rubber mount attached to one of the engine mount bolts.
When I asked the technician, he said it was to solve a vibration problem at certain revs on SOME engines.

hmmmm talk about a bodge...
In manufacturing it is called an improvement, specification subject to change without notice. Oh yeah.... a bodge.


PS has anybody found a use for the appendix yet... It seems not every one gets things right first time...:lol

Best regards,
Rustic

 

[jims-terrano]

Hmmm the vibration thing sounds familiar, I picked up a vibration noise which looking back was around the time I blanked mine off.

 

[spiderpig37]

Interested, what you doing, Rick

Processing fuel for the biomass boiler we run that makes steam for the turbine and also we put the steam through heat exchangers that heat six acres of greenhouses
We have a museam on site markham grange steam museam full of old static steam engines that will be in full steam tomorrow
Its run by volenteers propper old engineers

 

[solarman216]

Processing fuel for the biomass boiler we run that makes steam for the turbine and also we put the steam through heat exchangers that heat six acres of greenhouses
We have a museam on site markham grange steam museam full of old static steam engines that will be in full steam tomorrow
Its run by volenteers propper old engineers

Oh I am drooling at the mouth, what part of the country are you, Rick

 

[spiderpig37]

Oh I am drooling at the mouth, what part of the country are you, Rick

A bit far from you rick doncaster in south yorkshire
The old guys are renovating a beam engine we rescued from bedford college at the moment

 

[AD Ent]

My dad took me and my bro to an old stream engine place where we used to live, Bankroft museum in Barnoldswick. I hope it is still going. Didn't understand how it all worked but it was great to see and hear. All that hot water would power the looms. This place didn't have any looms just the engine and leather belts driving a big wheel. My dad was drooling, think Fred Dibner chatting to engineer.. Steam Son, Steeaammm! Marvelous int'it like?
Not as marvellous as my Atari
Naaay lad!

 

[AD Ent]

Using the brake flexi in place of a standard clutch pipe, could have been the cheap fix that NISSAN wanted all along.

This would also act as a damper.

BUT instead they chose to run 12 feet of steel pipe to corrode and stick an expensive bleed nipple on it.

The reason it was installed was because on a few vehicles were having vibration problems on the clutch, this fixed the few they had so they rolled it out across the range to save fixing it again.

The chances are... it is not really needed.:doh

On the Picasso there is a half kg lump of steel in a rubber mount attached to one of the engine mount bolts.
When I asked the technician, he said it was to solve a vibration problem at certain revs on SOME engines.

hmmmm talk about a bodge...
In manufacturing it is called an improvement, specification subject to change without notice. Oh yeah.... a bodge.


PS has anybody found a use for the appendix yet... It seems not every one gets things right first time...:lol

Best regards,
Rustic

great post

 

[solarman216]

Barnoldswick, now that brings back memories had a narrow boat on the Leeds & Liverpool canal some years ago, not that far from a mooring we purchased in Nelson, happy days, Rick

 

[firebobby]

Ah Steam, just reading Fred Dibnah's book,love watching his old series on TV

 

[AD Ent]

Barlick', aye Greenberfield locks?

It's still going! i'll go to the next 'steaming' if I can http://www.bancroftmill.org.uk/

 

[Paul]

that would be me it the flexi pipe that goes down to the calipers on the front

it is a bit long bit it just cable ties out the way and the kink goes once its full of fluid lol

Did you use the same banjo bolt or one from a caliper?

 

[bry]

Any idea what thread or size? Im in town sat in the motor, dont mind buying a couple of different ones but once I get it off I'll need the right plug :lol

1/4 BSP Thread

 

[bry]

you are right there, but would love a challenge to go from here to Scotland without a clutch pedal, may be even with the trailer loaded, Rick

Remove ya clutch pedal Simples:lol

 

[Peasgood1]

I bought a 1/4 BSP plug the other week for this job. It is not the same thread.
I reckon if you had a brass 1/4 BSP plug it could well work as the soft threads could jam in place. I doubt a steel or iron one would work.
Best solution would be to get a flexi hose made up. Or make your own with the braided hose and fittings available from Demon Tweeks or the like.

 

[Paul]

Don't do what I did and buy the flexi pipe without the block for the damper, the sodding pipe from the master cyl will not fit, the nut is smaller.. :doh