Handbrake drum advice

[Fez_uk]

The passenger side drum brake is locked on, Either somethings happened inside or the cable is jammed? As the passenger side cable won't go in.

Any tips on removing the drum being that it is pretty much locked on solid now?

:nenau

 

[R20Dave]

Big hammer see if it loosens anything, or carefully put truck in foreword and reverse see if that frees it off. Gently on the brakes with the front wheels chocked obviously

 

[elty001]

There are two threaded holes on the drum to help push it off.
8mm thread in them.
When the pin that held the shoes in place snapped on mine it wedged the drum up solid.
I put a bit of tension on the the bolts in the holes then tapped the drum to free it off.had to keep tightening the bolts and tapping to get it off but it came eventually.

 

[Fez_uk]

Hammer worked, Even though the handbrake was jammed on quite bad didn't have to hit it too much.

Found the problem, The cable is buggered. Will order a new one tomorrow. :clap

 

[solarman216]

as the auto adjusters do not work you will need to adjust up before putting the drum on, problem is there is usually a rust/wear lip that stops you getting the full adjustment, I have a bench grinder with the guard removed for just this job, also make sure the fulcrum levers are fully back, the plastic tell tales in the back plate indicate this, Rick

 

[glanrichbex]

as the auto adjusters do not work you will need to adjust up before putting the drum on, problem is there is usually a rust/wear lip that stops you getting the full adjustment, I have a bench grinder with the guard removed for just this job, also make sure the fulcrum levers are fully back, the plastic tell tales in the back plate indicate this, Rick

Good post about the rust/wear lip stopping the ...... but the next bit horrifies me I actually know someone who only has part of his right hand and his thumb and two fingers remaining because he took a guard off an angle grinder - it sends a shiver down me even now - lets not have any more talk about removing guards off machines. :thumbs

 

[solarman216]

Good post about the rust/wear lip stopping the ...... but the next bit horrifies me I actually know someone who only has part of his right hand and his thumb and two fingers remaining because he took a guard off an angle grinder - it sends a shiver down me even now - lets not have any more talk about removing guards off machines. :thumbs

I did not say Angle grinder, Bench grinder firmly fitted to the bench, and with the drum over the rotating wheel nothing is exposed, agreed it is not every ones cup of tea, and there are risks with even using a spanner if it is not your thing, when I suggest doing something it is entirely up to the person doing the job if they are up to it or not, I am 67 and have never used goggles for instance when angle grinding, or bench grinding, (been bench grinding since I was around 10 years old) been angle grinding since the 70's after making my own grinder from an old washing machine motor and a heavy flexible drive, (still have it) the reason being this was the the early days of angle grinders and they were expensive, but the point is the reason I do not use goggles or visors is two fold, one they steam up and you cannot see properly what you are doing and two you get used to them and the first time you grind (just a quicky) without them you are not used to keeping out of the line of fire and squinting, I should add I still have my eyes and all my digits and continue to do what I have always done, Rick

 

[panelbeater]

67 and no wayward metal in your eyes,you are blessed.this is not a criticism but having arc eyes and grinder steel shot in the eyes i tend to cover my eyes.
at 62 i want my sight to keep on going.
bye the way the pump is working ok thanks.

 

[glanrichbex]

I did not say Angle grinder, Bench grinder firmly fitted to the bench, and with the drum over the rotating wheel nothing is exposed, agreed it is not every ones cup of tea, and there are risks with even using a spanner if it is not your thing, when I suggest doing something it is entirely up to the person doing the job if they are up to it or not, I am 67 and have never used goggles for instance when angle grinding, or bench grinding, (been bench grinding since I was around 10 years old) been angle grinding since the 70's after making my own grinder from an old washing machine motor and a heavy flexible drive, (still have it) the reason being this was the the early days of angle grinders and they were expensive, but the point is the reason I do not use goggles or visors is two fold, one they steam up and you cannot see properly what you are doing and two you get used to them and the first time you grind (just a quicky) without them you are not used to keeping out of the line of fire and squinting, I should add I still have my eyes and all my digits and continue to do what I have always done, Rick

I see people like you in A&E quite often. I am familiar with with the tools you have mentioned and horrified by the fact you don't use goggles whilst angle grinding. There are methods of carrying out these tasks in safety and I would like to think we on this forum have a responsibility to encourage safe practice and not take risks. You have simply got away with your eye sight by the laws of chance, it only takes one hot fragment to enter the pupil onto the lense and your eye sight will be damaged permanently. How do you know you don't have fragments embedded in your sclera ( outer region ), if you ever have to go for an MRI scan, you must advise the staff.

Get those guards back on those machines and invest in protection - you know it makes sense :thumbs

 

[cncfabs]

+1 on that also ear protection. about 5 years ago i was welding car without ear plugs in had large piece of welding spatter goin in my ear burnt right through eardrum.Had to go into hospital had whole ear cut off and skin graft on eardrum lost lot of hearing in that ear.Only welding i do on cars now is reluctantly my own with safety glasses and ear plugs in

 

[Sweety]

TBH i'm very much like Rick here as 80% of the time I don't wear goggles when grinding I should really I know but as Rick has said you sharp learn how to grind or cut in a way so you don't get a face full of sparks but i've found 99% of the mechanic's I worked with did the same. On the plus side my eyes have super fast reaction & there is no metal in them as they were x rayed 8 months before I had another MRI scan:augie told them there was bits of metal under the skin in my arms & they weren't bothered oh they were lucky they didn't fly out & kill the scanner just ripped through my skin a bit:doh

 

[firebobby]

When welding, I wear an old flash hood under my welders mask and full boiler suit with gauntlets too.
When I use my grinder, I have goggles ear defenders and dust mask, can't be to safe.

 

[AlexD333]

Ehehe:augie

 

[quixote]

I wear a full suit of armour and ear defenders when doing anything that involves potential risk. I also have rubber soles on the boots though, so I won't get electrocuted, and have a heavy-duty life preserver just in case I happen to be near water & fall in. Can't be too careful with suits of armour, you know........... :thumb2

 

[Paff]

I never go out or do anything, I just sit here wrapped up in cotton wool :augie

 

[glanrichbex]

TBH i'm very much like Rick here as 80% of the time I don't wear goggles when grinding I should really I know but as Rick has said you sharp learn how to grind or cut in a way so you don't get a face full of sparks but i've found 99% of the mechanic's I worked with did the same. On the plus side my eyes have super fast reaction & there is no metal in them as they were x rayed 8 months before I had another MRI scan:augie told them there was bits of metal under the skin in my arms & they weren't bothered oh they were lucky they didn't fly out & kill the scanner just ripped through my skin a bit:doh

Your eye takes about 300 milliseconds to respond to a foreign object once the object comes into contact with an eyelash, way way to slow. If you see a spark comming towards your pupil then it has already hit your eye ball before you have even acknowledged it and you blink in response to the discomfort it has created. When you grind, not every single spark is projected in the same direction, occasionally there is a stray and that's the one that gets you. Just once - that all it takes and you will be walking around with an anoying blury patch in your vison for the rest of your days always thinking ' if only I had not been a pillock and worn safety gogles'. As I've mentioned, there are those who come into A&E who have been doing it for years and of course it could never happen to them.

 

[glanrichbex]

Ehehe:augie

LOL - Although we laugh at this - there are people out there who will see this, think what a wonderfull idea and try it

 

[melissachels]

I have a m3 full face mask, I've gotta wear it been to hospital twice to get metal or rust removed :doh don't wear ear plugs, had a few burns but nowt major :thumb2 its my hair that gets it

 

[solarman216]

I am not saying people should do what I do cos I know most could not, I am saying please do not quote elf and safety to me as I am not interested, I do now what I have always done, if you shy at it then fine, we are not all built the same, until recently I would walk without restraint along a building ridge two or three stories high, cannot now as knees give out getting there, but you see where I am coming from, never worn a seat belt either, but that is a different story, except when banger racing, full race harness but then we were out there to be hit or to hit, and yes hit the wall head on at 30 mph but it did not hurt as harness designed for it, on the other side of the coin in well over a million only serious prang I have had fortunately trucks at the time did not have belts, I was KO by an object through the windscreen and slumped over the wheel when the truck went onto its side it slammed into a bridge support but by then I was well down below the dash, the bridge support took the top of the cab off at dashboard level, had seat belts been around I would not be here, call me lucky, call me gifted, I call skill, best regards, Rick

 

[AlexD333]

I am not saying people should do what I do cos I know most could not, I am saying please do not quote elf and safety to me as I am not interested, I do now what I have always done, if you shy at it then fine, we are not all built the same, until recently I would walk without restraint along a building ridge two or three stories high, cannot now as knees give out getting there, but you see where I am coming from, never worn a seat belt either, but that is a different story, except when banger racing, full race harness but then we were out there to be hit or to hit, and yes hit the wall head on at 30 mph but it did not hurt as harness designed for it, on the other side of the coin in well over a million only serious prang I have had fortunately trucks at the time did not have belts, I was KO by an object through the windscreen and slumped over the wheel when the truck went onto its side it slammed into a bridge support but by then I was well down below the dash, the bridge support took the top of the cab off at dashboard level, had seat belts been around I would not be here, call me lucky, call me gifted, I call skill, best regards, Rick

Fair play, I must say ive seen Rick work quite a few times, yes certainly been doing it for a long time. I guess the correct diplomatic answer should be - yes full face gear should be worn, but each to their own. :thumb2