front wheel bearings tightening ?

[pablo0874]

another thread just to confuse things more ,
when my front n/side wheel off the ground on stand or jack i can wobble it a bit top to bottom not left to right , so am i right in thinking the bearings are worn? in this wheel and if so can they be tightened up like in older cars to take up the play ,
last inspection down there it seemed you could not get at the hub nut has anyone ever done this without need for any special tools woould be greatfull as i just replaced tyres on front and wouldnt want them wearing premeaturely many cheers for reading this :thumbs

 

[lacroupade]

another thread just to confuse things more ,
when my front n/side wheel off the ground on stand or jack i can wobble it a bit top to bottom not left to right , so am i right in thinking the bearings are worn? in this wheel and if so can they be tightened up like in older cars to take up the play ,
last inspection down there it seemed you could not get at the hub nut has anyone ever done this without need for any special tools woould be greatfull as i just replaced tyres on front and wouldnt want them wearing premeaturely many cheers for reading this :thumbs

have you got the manual link? All covered in there.

 

[zippy656]

have you got the manual link? All covered in there.

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/fwd.pdf

 

[lacroupade]

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/fwd.pdf

I had the clock on you.....

 

[rustic]

If it's not doing it left to right then it may not be the bearings, could be top or bottom ball joints, have a pry with a crow bar but don't damage the seals.

Bearings, no special tools required.

 

[zippy656]

i had to go make a mug of tea!

 

[pablo0874]

cheers for the replies but the ball joints seem ok ,in the manual it says about the hub nut locking tool how do i get past using one of thenm?

 

[briggie]

I had the clock on you.....

its much better to post the relevant section of the manual master zippy :augie

http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/fa.pdf

 

[rustic]

cheers for the replies but the ball joints seem ok ,in the manual it says about the hub nut locking tool how do i get past using one of thenm?

The nut is circular, it has about 20 holes around the perimeter, and there is a pozidrive screw in one of the holes ( maybe 2, I forget).
Remove the screw(s) and using a couple of flattened off nails, insert them part way on opposite sides of the nut, don't go in too far as you need to rotate the outer ring only and rotate the nut with something between the nails.
To get to the nut you have to remove the circlip on the shaft.
Oh don't forget to put the screw(s) back.
Hope this helps.

 

[11redrex]

Remove :
Centre cap (6 allen bolts)
Circlip
Shiny washer
Brass thing
Brake Ring
Undo two philips head screws (Very small don't lose them)
Remove the ring the screws were in.
Using a drift knock the "nut" round as far as you can without being daft. If you can still spin the wheel easily with one hand it's all good.
Put it all back together.

Or just read the manual for the posh version. If you do it with the wheel off you can inspect everything else and it's a better gauge of not doing the nut up too tight.

I think.

 

[pablo0874]

:thumbscheers for all the versions i think between all of thm i have abeter idea of what i have to do now next job as soon as i get the time now cheers :thumbs

 

[rustic]

:thumbscheers for all the versions i think between all of thm i have abeter idea of what i have to do now next job as soon as i get the time now cheers :thumbs

Work in a clean dry area, and protect the bits from dust and grit, this is a good piece of precision engineering. :thumbs :thumbs

 

[mowerman]

tool about £40 on e bay.... or.... as 11redrex says (dependant on fixed or auto hubs re the brake ring bit... fixed hubs on later trucks) I used a small hammer and screwdriver to 'untighten' the hub nut and a pair of long nosed pliers opened up to locate in 2 of the holes (opposite each other) and undo the nut (looks like a big washer).. if you do loose the little screws that hold on the locking plate I think they are M5 size (from any good diy store in packets).. know that as one of mine had NONE holding the locking ring on

quick grease and rethighten and refit bits... job done

 

[pablo0874]

Remove :
Centre cap (6 allen bolts)
Circlip
Shiny washer
Brass thing
Brake Ring
Undo two philips head screws (Very small don't lose them)
Remove the ring the screws were in.
Using a drift knock the "nut" round as far as you can without being daft. If you can still spin the wheel easily with one hand it's all good.
Put it all back together.

Or just read the manual for the posh version. If you do it with the wheel off you can inspect everything else and it's a better gauge of not doing the nut up too tight.

I think.

help urgentlu !!!
ive took notice off above but when i remove the first six allen bolts and remove the hub centre there is a splined drive shaft end protruding out the middle of the wheel i can see the rest of what your saying the two posidrive screws etc behind the driveshaft end how do i get the driveshaft end out it seems to have a cupped edge behind it i cant go any further till this is out the way ,im stuck anyone got any ideas many thanks

 

[rustic]

help urgentlu !!!
ive took notice off above but when i remove the first six allen bolts and remove the hub centre there is a splined drive shaft end protruding out the middle of the wheel i can see the rest of what your saying the two posidrive screws etc behind the driveshaft end how do i get the driveshaft end out it seems to have a cupped edge behind it i cant go any further till this is out the way ,im stuck anyone got any ideas many thanks

Do you mean the circlip on the end of the drive shaft, if so this Must be removed first.

 

[rustic]

Do you mean the circlip on the end of the drive shaft, if so this Must be removed first.

Actually, thinking on, you must have removed the circlip at this point, to get the brake rings out !

The parts should pull out .. as advised !

DO NOT push the drive shaft inwards, as it will be a pig to get back in position.

 

[pablo0874]

Actually, thinking on, you must have removed the circlip at this point, to get the brake rings out !

The parts should pull out .. as advised !

DO NOT push the drive shaft inwards, as it will be a pig to get back in position.

you know what im excuse the expression a "tit"
if i would have read it properly instead of missing the bit about the circlip duhhhh ive found the circlip removed it and the rest tightened the nut got rid of the play now no wobble wheel spins with one hand nice gonna start on the other side now cheers for being patient many thanks:clap:clap:clap

 

[rustic]

you know what im excuse the expression a "tit"
if i would have read it properly instead of missing the bit about the circlip duhhhh ive found the circlip removed it and the rest tightened the nut got rid of the play now no wobble wheel spins with one hand nice gonna start on the other side now cheers for being patient many thanks:clap:clap:clap

No problem, glad you're sorted.
Easier next time if ever you do the job again. :thumb2

 

[pablo0874]

No problem, glad you're sorted.
Easier next time if ever you do the job again. :thumb2

cheers again all done now ill have to invest in a bigger pair of circlip pliers the ones i had just wouldnt cut the mustard cheers :thumb2:thumb2:thumb2:thumb2