Dale Farm...

[felixthelogchopper]

Its a difficult one for the simple reason that there are two types of so-called travellers; a few are genuine Roma and have maintained their lifestyle for many hundreds of years, the bulk however are n'ere-do-wells from the Irish Republic (not reflecting in any way the general population there) who choose to live on the road because its the easiest way to escape taxes and general social responsibility (except for themselves) and be free to dump their rubbish, tarmac and tree cuttings anywhere they choose.

My humble view is that anyone who chooses to live outside society is denied the usual rights that the rest of us have, i.e. access to health, education etc..

And not sure which bit of West Wales you live in but its clearly a long way from the road to Haverford West LOL. In Llandovery we choose to close our shop for 2-3 weeks every year when the car park is taken over by several dozen caravans and left like a shithole after they are finally driven off by the council - otherwise we get shoplifters in almost daily.

I don't care if you're black, white, green or yellow, english, irish or bloody chinese, if you shit up my countryside and don't pay your taxes then you get what you deserve.

This whole Dale Farm thing is just a planning issue that needs stamping on, because if it isn't I'll just put a nice bungalow up in a green field by the river and say "I'm a traveller you can't touch me...".

As for the activists that turned up there, euthenasia would be my recommendation.

Best take on the whole issue yet. :thumb2

 

[Adz]

Justive at long last

At long last the Police are removing the hippy protesters that have nothing to do with the site & are bulldozing the far end of the site :clap

I am also glad to see that the byway that had been blocked is now drivable along with 1 of the 3 footpaths :clap but not the bridleways :lol

 

[gazrick]

Great!

At least there will be enough firewood around for a nice big bonfire next month :thumb2:thumbs:thumb2:clap

Zero Carbon - sounds good.

 

[Adz]

Most of it's been burnt already :lol

Been sirens on & off all day & the police helicopters been above all day on & off...

 

[4wheel]

On Sunday I took a cruise through Stow on the Wold in the Cotswolds(as you do) and lo and behold the place was surrounded by travellers.In fact they were quite comfy on the edge of the Sainsbury's car park as well.They seem to have made themselves at home in a couple of fields and along some of the roads. I think that may upset a few posh folk.

 

[Adz]

I think there SCUM.!

 

[Deleted account DD]

If I were stereotyping id say a couple of caravans I saw being towed m25/m11 today by by transit vans advertising double glazing and building services, looked like they may well have come from there.

In fact recalling the drivers pissed off expressions (especially the one who was ranting down his phone) I reckon they were from there or thereabouts

 

[Adz]

:augie :lol

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

hands free i hope, wonder if they were inspected for vehicle legality.

 

[lacroupade]

big crowd of em due here soon, they come every year, fill the car park for a month and basically shut the town down.

Don't even start me.

 

[makeitfit]

Same in Cardigan but in November, batten down the hatches for a couple of weeks then
Fair "night" equals two weeks of missing c/h oil, lead roofs and dodgey tarmac drives :lol

 

[Adz]

The scum have now moved in, in a field on the other side of the A127 :banghead

:banghead Be another 10 years now for the other side to get moved off :banghead

 

[Liam]

Genuinely feel for all affected by this, it is not pleasant and unfortunately, every time the problem is solved in one area, it just pops up somewhere else. Bit like moles, I suppose, only a much bigger problem. I think the only possible solution is proper ID cards for non nationals, of all races, then at least the people concerned could be returned to their rightful owners (country), in this case back here. You have my genuine sympathy on this one, lads and ladies.

 

[Adz]

:thumbs

Baz Vegas is on lock down with wanna be copper Security Guard's on power trip's & shed load's of police everywhere

 

[Deleted account DD]

:thumbs

Baz Vegas is on lock down with wanna be copper Security Guard's on power trip's & shed load's of police everywhere

http://www.chavtowns.co.uk/2005/10/basildon-baz-vegas/

 

[Adz]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :clap :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[The Patrolman]

Driving back from Brentwood to Rayleigh yesterday I saw the Police chopper above DF.
But a mile further along the 127 there was an Apachie gunship copter hovering (probably unrelated)
How good would it be if It came in close to DF and spun up the gattling guns. That would clear the scaffold I bet!!

 

[Deleted account DD]

Driving back from Brentwood to Rayleigh yesterday I saw the Police chopper above DF.
But a mile further along the 127 there was an Apachie gunship copter hovering (probably unrelated)
How good would it be if It came in close to DF and spun up the gattling guns. That would clear the scaffold I bet!!

:thumb2:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

 

[harlowmaverick]

im lost

Can someone please explain to me the meaning of travellers or romanie gypsys.
Now I thought that these were people that didn't like to stay in one place and loved the open road.
So how come they have built buildings and homes on dale farm?
Here in Harlow we also have a large travellers community with several dedicated sites through out our town.
The fair tax payers of our town paid for these sites, the ammenities on them and we even built them rather plush bungalows on one site that the travellers decided to keep their horses in.
So can someone please clear this up for me, I am certain that the dale farm travellers will be well looked after if they ever came to harlow as our council seem to look after the lot that are here very well at the cost to the residents of Harlow

 

[lacroupade]

Can someone please explain to me the meaning of travellers or romanie gypsys.
Now I thought that these were people that didn't like to stay in one place and loved the open road.
So how come they have built buildings and homes on dale farm?
Here in Harlow we also have a large travellers community with several dedicated sites through out our town.
The fair tax payers of our town paid for these sites, the ammenities on them and we even built them rather plush bungalows on one site that the travellers decided to keep their horses in.
So can someone please clear this up for me, I am certain that the dale farm travellers will be well looked after if they ever came to harlow as our council seem to look after the lot that are here very well at the cost to the residents of Harlow

If Plank was around he'd explain theres a world of difference between the two in some respects. Which isn't to say there arent dodgy Roma (witness that prog the other night about Romanian child beggars and benefit scams)...both parties are travellers by nature and both ethnic (true Roma come from India originally a thousand years or so ago) while the Dale Farm travellers are mostly chancers from the RoI who come over to make a bit (well a lot actually) of tax-free money and generally live outside the law.

Long-term 'British' Roma I believe tend to be much better behaved in general, although for obvious reasons they feel an affinity of some sort with the Irish travellers which I think can cloud some peoples judgement. If you've ever met a REAL Irish tinker you'd know that todays travellers bear little relation to their way of life, other than living it in laybys. In the RoI modern travellers (who are just as much an issue there as here) are often referred to in a derogatory way as 'knackers' LOL.

As I said earlier, I don't care what a man does as long as he pays his taxes and doesn't thieve from me or anyone else. Sadly, whatever the pro-traveller factions like to say, the vast majority of peoples experiences with travellers on the move is pretty dire to say the least. I'd suggest thats a bit of a contrast with years gone by but its a sad reflection on todays society.