c200 backplate axle, removing rear diff

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If you remove rear diff, then surely if you put it back as it came out, backlash and mesh will not be affected ?? :nenau

I'm thinking of trying to reshim my rear diff so its tighter again, anyone know if this is an option ?
 
I think it would be like this vid, except obviously that is an ifs rear diff set up, but pull shafts, and just take bearing caps off. I dont think the mesh would be affected, as the pinion gear is shimmed to change the mesh iirc, so as I'm just removing backplate I'm not touching the pinion position.

I might actually have a go at this, after some more research.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMo_4pDN-nk
 
I think it would be like this vid, except obviously that is an ifs rear diff set up, but pull shafts, and just take bearing caps off. I dont think the mesh would be affected, as the pinion gear is shimmed to change the mesh iirc, so as I'm just removing backplate I'm not touching the pinion position.

I might actually have a go at this, after some more research.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMo_4pDN-nk
I think that video over simplifies the task.Saw one done when i was an apprectice was done with engineers blue to check properly and dti but what was 25 years ago so may be wrong.He says in the video it was a bit tight might be ok on track car but wont last 5 minutes on the road.
 
I think that video over simplifies the task.Saw one done when i was an apprectice was done with engineers blue to check properly and dti but what was 25 years ago so may be wrong.He says in the video it was a bit tight might be ok on track car but wont last 5 minutes on the road.

But as you are just taking off back plate and removing bearing caps, mesh of the crown and pinion will not be affected, so surely its just an out and back in, in reverse order job :nenau
 
heres a post from another forum about removing diff out of a c200, albeit a leaf spring variant

Here's a quick DIY if this turns up in anyone's search later on.

Materials and Tools

- 10mm box wrench or line wrench (for brake fittings)
- 12mm ratchet or wrench
- 14mm ratchet
- 17mm ratchet and cheater bar
- 1/2" drive breaker bar
- 1x bottle 'o brake fluid
- some rags
- tube of RTV
- 80W90


Ensure front wheels are blocked and parking brake is off. Raise rear of truck and support with jackstands. Pull off rear wheels.

Grab 12mm ratchet and remove four 12mm head bolts from the two E-brake brackets on either side of differential.

Use two of these and screw them into the threaded holes near the center of your brake drums. This will push the drums off the hubs without you having to fight anything. Pull both drums off.

Grab 17mm ratchet and remove the four 17mm nuts on the backside of each wheel hub/brake backing plate. Set on leaf springs so you don't lose them.

Unbend the little tabs that secure the brake lines to the axle housing so the line is free. Grab your 10mm line/box wrench and remove the driver's side brake line fitting from the Tee-fitting on the passenger side of the axle. It's bolted to the axle housing. Once the line is out of that fitting, remove the 12mm head bolt that secures the tee-fitting to the axle housing. Put rags under this to catch the brake fluid that is going to drip out.

Go back to the driver's side and pull the entire hub assembly/brake backing plate towards you until you feel the axle come out of the differential. Should be no more than about 3-4 inches and you will feel the diff end of the axle drop inside the tube. Lather, rinse repeat for the other side. No need to pull the axle all the way out if all you are doing is messing with the diff.

Pull the bottom diff plug out with your 1/2" breaker bar and let the fluid drain.

Remove the diff cover with your 14mm ratchet, should be eight bolts.

Grab your 17mm (thin wall, impact socket won't work) ratchet and cheater bar and break loose the four bolts holding the bearing caps on. Spin the bolts out and set them aside - two per cap. Now, either mark the caps to be sure they go back on the same side and the same orientation as they only go on one way, one side. Once the caps are marked (or eyeballed and remembered), knock them with a screwdriver handle and the should pop right out.

Grab the top of the ring gear and roll the diff assembly out. Mind the bearing cups and the shims as they will probably come with the diff and fall on the ground.

That's it. Installation is the reverse of this. Use a new gasket and some RTV to seal the cover on, let it cure 24 hours before adding fluid back to the diff. Bleed the brakes once the line is reconnected.

Too easy. No c-clips, spring clips, nothing crazy like that to deal with.

I think I can take it apart and replace the clutch's or shim ...
 
If you are going to re assemble it as it is why are you going to take it to bits in the first place? Rick
 
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If you are going to re assemble it as it is why are you going to take it to bits in the first place? Rick

I'm looking at shimming out the clutch pack inside the diff, or replacing all the worn plates and springs depending on cost of parts.

I was just wondering about the side bearing shims ? as they are critical to the meshing of crown and pinion. but if i put them back in correct places then meshing and backlash will be the same as before, right, so its an easy in out job with the actual diff, no setting up of meshing etc ?
 
Priced up the lsd plates, not including the springs it is erm ...£1182.10 :rofl:

I'll stick with an open diff tbh :D

cheaper to put an arb locker in
 
Yes in theory, keeping the shims in there original places should keep the mesh the same, note also the particular teeth mesh tween crown and pinion I would mark them so they go back exactly the same, if for instance 4 turns of the pinion = 1 turn of the crown then the teeth will always meet the same ones, if other than 4 to 1 say 4.1 to one then it would not matter as they will see different teeth all the time, (made a cock up of explaining that but I think you will get my drift) but get prices of parts first as I think it will be expensive, Rick
 
Ah you beet me to it, about what I thought, £1k thats even more than I would have guessed, Rick
 
Priced up the lsd plates, not including the springs it is erm ...£1182.10 :rofl:

I'll stick with an open diff tbh :D

cheaper to put an arb locker in

Lokka will set you back about 350 quid :thumbs
 
Lokka will set you back about 350 quid :thumbs

I've mailed them, just waiting for a reply

I think they will probably do a lokka for the c200, as its fitted to shit loads of trucks. I think fitting it would be a walk in the park too, as its just a case of removing diff and swapping out the internals from the diff cage :)
 
I've mailed them, just waiting for a reply

I think they will probably do a lokka for the c200, as its fitted to shit loads of trucks. I think fitting it would be a walk in the park too, as its just a case of removing diff and swapping out the internals from the diff cage :)

They will get back to you :thumbs
If you're seriously going for one let me know first as I may order one for my Trol front diff and my mate wants one for the front of his T2.
I've spoken to them before about multi purchase deal and they did a good discount :D
 
problem with multi purchase is it's more likely to be stung by import tax/vat.

im interested too
 
problem with multi purchase is it's more likely to be stung by import tax/vat.

im interested too

Well if everyone is willing I have a very good friend in Melbourne . I think we can get the new stuff sent there and then get him to send it on to us as second hand:nenau
Anyone know if this would work
 
Well if everyone is willing I have a very good friend in Melbourne . I think we can get the new stuff sent there and then get him to send it on to us as second hand:nenau
Anyone know if this would work

doubt that will work, still has value over the limit.
 

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