Broken Rear Hub

[Banshee]

Well the good news is that I can def def def 100000000% confirm that my diff is the cause of the noise that has been bugging me for so long on the car, this was tested when I had to get the car on the axle stands earlier because the rear drivers side brake was overheating.

When I managed to remove the drum it appears that I have lost one of these from the right hand side of the drum which has caused the right hand side pad to flop around in the hub and catch on the inside causing the smoke from my rear hub;

It appears to be some sort of stopper which is held in place with a spring and a clip that looks like this on the left of the hub;

The spring and stopper were floating round inside the hub when I removed it

This was what I saw when I removed the hub;

These are all the parts I have after removing the shoes;

Am I missing anything or does anything look damaged

And I suppose my next question is does anyone have a spare pin thingy that I'm missing so I can re-fit the shoes?

 

[spiderpig37]

Local motor factors can get you a spring kit with all the pins and things in to hold your shoes on
Dont know if your adjuster is damaged

 

[Banshee]

Looking at the workshop download the 4th item from the top looks bent to me :nenau or should it look like that?

 

[shadowbroker]

i have just done mine, one of my wishbone bolts was also warped. i did fix it, careful though not to snap them. to avoid this, i use a blow torch (usng MAP gas) to get the part fully glowing red hot, then using mole grips to hold it, i placed it on a metal table and used a 2lb hammer to hit it straight again, then dunked it in old motor oil to cool the metal and keep it strong.

dont need to use MAP gas (yellow bottle), i did though because i prefer the hotter temps you get with it, but other gasses will do .

 

[shadowbroker]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAKE-SHO...rts_SM&fits=Model:Terrano&hash=item2c6c347580 thats the one i used. complete kit so you can change all springs, though he also has a kit with just the cups, hammer pins and spring for them.

 

[richbids]

Hi, you mite well be able to straighten the adjuster if your care full in the vice .don't worry if it won't run all the way back as you need out a bit too adjust the shoes . If not a ford transit mk4 rear brake adjuster could well be the same. one of my adjusters end up bent just like yours and I priced a new one up at vospers ford/Nissan in Plymouth and it was £75 quid plus the vat .The parts guy said he thought it was the same as a ford transit but he did not have one in stock to compare it to;in the end I straighten mine in the vice and seems still to be work ok . cheers rich

 

[shadowbroker]

if you want me to fix it and make it night and true again, you could post it me, do it for free for you. i have the heat, the hammers, the oil and the forming table. only take me a few mins, could post it back same day. PM me if your interested in that.

 

[Banshee]

Thanks for all the replies guys Adjuster is def bent then lol

if you want me to fix it and make it night and true again, you could post it me, do it for free for you. i have the heat, the hammers, the oil and the forming table. only take me a few mins, could post it back same day. PM me if your interested in that.

Thanks ever so much for this kind offer mate and I may well take you up on this offer however, there are 2 Mavericks in the scrap yard near me that I might go and try my chances with

My only problem is then finding out how it all goes back together as I've never done one of these before

I'm a little confused as to what piece 11 is below and where it goes :S

 

[solarman216]

11 and 17 are useless bin them the rest are straight forward, Rick

 

[Lazy-Ferret]

11 is the self adjuster, which is the thin shim like bit of metal in your picture.

The larger hole fits over the pin on the brake shoe, and top bit above the hole, slots under the fork of the adjuster, having a small spring in the small hole, which goes across to the other shoe to pull it back. The bent over "Blade" like bit at the other "Thin" end, sits against the wheel on the adjuster making a ratchet, pulling the wheel down when the brakes are applied, and then slipping back up over the next "tooth" if there is enough slack to allow it to.

Having said all that, it does not work very well...

Don't forget you can take the other side of to compare.

 

[Banshee]

11 and 17 are useless bin them the rest are straight forward, Rick

11 is the self adjuster, which is the thin shim like bit of metal in your picture.

The larger hole fits over the pin on the brake shoe, and top bit above the hole, slots under the fork of the adjuster, having a small spring in the small hole, which goes across to the other shoe to pull it back. The bent over "Blade" like bit at the other "Thin" end, sits against the wheel on the adjuster making a ratchet, pulling the wheel down when the brakes are applied, and then slipping back up over the next "tooth" if there is enough slack to allow it to.

Having said all that, it does not work very well...

Don't forget you can take the other side of to compare.

Many thanks guys will be tackling this tomorrow

 

[Banshee]

UPDATE

The guy at my local scrappy was being a bit of a douche and wasn't prepared to move the Maverick he has in the yard to the front so I could get the bits I wanted as at the moment it is thoroughly wedged between an old crane and a Discovery

I then rang Bristol Street Motors and priced up a new adjuster from them and they wanted £93.19!!!!!!!!

I've been to the car spares shop near me who said that they couldn't source an adjuster and that it would be a dealer part they did however sell the Mk4 Transit adjusters however the end of it was different and wouldn't have been suitable, I was going to get a picture of it in the book but forgot :doh they did however sell the pins on their own independent of the spring kits so I took 4 new ones and 4 new retainers as I plan on replacing the ones on the passengers side as well to avoid having the same happen again which came to the grand total of £2 :thumb2:thumb2

Then I cycled down the road a little further and bumped into a friend I've not seen for about 4 years who now works at quick fit, we got chatting and he told me to come back with him and we got the bent adjuster in the vice and got some heat on it, straightened it back out and then left it to cool for 10 - 15 mins in some old engine oil which is now cool and straight again

We exchanged numbers again, shook hands and now I'm home waiting for mom to bring some lunch back before i get changed and get dirty fitting it all back to the car :thumb2 I hope I can get it all back together :nenau

 

[TONUP]

I took a lot of pictures when I did my brakes and half-shaft oil seals.

I have put one below of the adjuster in its assembled position... hope it helps. I have some more images if you want them.

Good Luck

Alan

 

[Banshee]

I took a lot of pictures when I did my brakes and half-shaft oil seals.

I have put one below of the adjuster in its assembled position... hope it helps. I have some more images if you want them.

Good Luck

Alan

Top man!!!! get them up please :thumb2

 

[TONUP]

Here are some more...

 

[TONUP]

Image 1

 

[TONUP]

Sorry I am having trouble uploading the images, I hope this helps.

It'd be helpful if someone could write up how to put multiple images into a post?

 

[quixote]

FYI, that setup is identical to my '02 Freelander, except for the handbrake mechanism. Looks to be standard components:thumb2

 

[firebobby]

FYI, that setup is identical to my '02 Freelander, except for the handbrake mechanism. Looks to be standard components:thumb2

But at the LR dealers, it would cost £300 :augie:augie

 

[Banshee]

Mission Success :thumb2:thumb2

Wouldn't have been able to do it without the pictures TONUP so many many thanks

Now I just need to do front discs and pad that I ordered this morning and then I'm going to do a bleed of the system, is this difficult?

I've got 1 Litre of unopened DOT4 in the shed will this do or will I need a little more than that?