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PLANK said:
but you don't put a bid on - you leave it to the last split second via a sniper :augie
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no i was just talking about someone pulling an auction early thats actually got a bid on it just because its lower than they'd like, by pretending its sold through the local paper or some such crap.:)
 
lacroupade said:
no i was just talking about someone pulling an auction early thats actually got a bid on it just because its lower than they'd like, by pretending its sold through the local paper or some such crap.:)
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proper auctions are strict, i think most ebay bidders and seller wouldn't last 5 minutes with a chartered auctioneer pointing his gavel at em :augie
 
PLANK said:
proper auctions are strict, i think most ebay bidders and seller wouldn't last 5 minutes with a chartered auctioneer pointing his gavel at em :augie
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oo-err missus! :eek:

But I only discovered a couple of years ago the legality of 'bidding off the wall' where theres a reserve price....got to be careful :thumbs
 
lacroupade said:
oo-err missus! :eek:

But I only discovered a couple of years ago the legality of 'bidding off the wall' where theres a reserve price....got to be careful :thumbs
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very careful - i have a friend and who is an expert at it, he looks between you and the bloke next to you and the price goes up :lol
 
lacroupade said:
simple you rookie you.....putting any bid up shows interest and encourages others to do the same. The less bids the better.:augie
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cheeky so and so , rookie my arse 10 years a member on that rip off site in April !!!!

No the point is if theres interest theres interest :nenau unless theres shilling going on it wont make any difference. I snipe successfully big time on there but by the good old fashioned way.............me :D

Just bid late and watch carefully.
 
if i want sommat i put max i am willing to buy it for,if it goes over theyll be another one! always send a question on cash price sod ebay/paypal fees if i can (ebay own paypal so get paid twice!)
 
lacroupade said:
That phrase is technically not acceptable. Basic law of contract which includes auctions, says that all thats required is an offer to sell and acceptance.....one bid is enough. Dickheads like that should use reserve pricing.

Its just that eBay doesn't enforce things properly. Same old shite as people who write things like "not my responsibility to make a claim if item is lost but I'll send you the posting receipt". F*ck off you f*ckwit! I report every one I see and they get pulled LOL.

The shop pricing argument is a bit different....incorrectly priced items don't have to be sold at that price because they are deemed to be an 'offer to treat' ....which indicates a parties willingness to sell, as opposed to an actual offer to sell. But given that the fines for incorrect pricing are very significant indeed, its always worth having the discussion :thumb2
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problem with the contract thing is ebay claims that by bidding you are entering to a legally binding contract this is not true i spoke to them at length about this when a buyer refused to pay for an item eventially they admitted that the ebay 'contract' hasnt been tested in uk law but if i wanted to do a test case i was welcome to do so
 
jace said:
if i want sommat i put max i am willing to buy it for,if it goes over theyll be another one! always send a question on cash price sod ebay/paypal fees if i can (ebay own paypal so get paid twice!)
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Agreed. works for me. What i do (and advertise it on the listing) is offer discount for cash on collection. Saves me posting things and saves us both money, not much, but its better in our pocket than ebay plc :D
 
daved said:
cheeky so and so , rookie my arse 10 years a member on that rip off site in April !!!!

No the point is if theres interest theres interest :nenau unless theres shilling going on it wont make any difference. I snipe successfully big time on there but by the good old fashioned way.............me :D

Just bid late and watch carefully.
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well more than 40% of all auctions are now ended by sniping, that rises to almost 60% on antiques categories......so you and your ZX Spectrum are f****d I'd say :augie:lol:lol

I used to get up at 3am regularly to bid on Georg Jensen silver in US auctions, and was seriously pi55ed when I lost one for obvious reasons.

fact is, if theres a formal eBay maximum bid, doesn't mean its a sensible one because 'auction fever' often persuades people to keep bidding til they overtake it. Sniping avoids that cos they don't know you're there and are lulled into a false sense of security.
 
i even cancel the transaction after its collected/sold get refund on sellers fees lol! pennies make pounds!
 
cncfabs said:
problem with the contract thing is ebay claims that by bidding you are entering to a legally binding contract this is not true i spoke to them at length about this when a buyer refused to pay for an item eventially they admitted that the ebay 'contract' hasnt been tested in uk law but if i wanted to do a test case i was welcome to do so
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I think you were talking to a muppet TBH. The law of contract is centuries old and extremely simple. The fact its an internet auction makes no difference. Any court would simply consider the circumstances and should enforce the contract - its just that the reality is often a lot less practical. I mean if he claims to have sold it elsewhere, theres nothing to enforce and what damages could you possible have incurred?

Courts hate enforcing contracts of emplyment for example, even though the law can be quite clear on the matter.
 
Why don't we try it out??:nenau

I'll set up a one day auction for a 1p piece for 1p.:D
We can all set up our snipers for 10p at 3 seconds,:thumb
Daved can watch the auction and place a last second bid of 100 Quid,:augie
And we can look at the results;)
 
jace said:
i even cancel the transaction after its collected/sold get refund on sellers fees lol! pennies make pounds!
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I bet eBay loves you! No wonder I'm paying 10% these days!
 
The Patrolman said:
Why don't we try it out??:nenau

I'll set up a one day auction for a 1p piece for 1p.:D
We can all set up our snipers for 10p at 3 seconds,:thumb
Daved can watch the auction and place a last second bid of 100 Quid,:augie
And we can look at the results;)
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No I think £1000 would offer a better statistical sample :D
 
lacroupade said:
well more than 40% of all auctions are now ended by sniping, that rises to almost 60% on antiques categories......so you and your ZX Spectrum are f****d I'd say :augie:lol:lol

I used to get up at 3am regularly to bid on Georg Jensen silver in US auctions, and was seriously pi55ed when I lost one for obvious reasons.

fact is, if theres a formal eBay maximum bid, doesn't mean its a sensible one because 'auction fever' often persuades people to keep bidding til they overtake it. Sniping avoids that cos they don't know you're there and are lulled into a false sense of security.
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ahhh but everything has a maximum price so set it and leave it, biggest downfall on there is auction fever, ive got dragged into it in the past usually after a beer or two but far too cynical now
but as jace says another will come along :thumb2

Some areas yes, for the average elderly bidder getting up at 3am sniper could be useful but for the likes of me im just not convinced :D
 
ah but there are some items that are never repeated, got to be had ;)
 
lacroupade said:
I think you were talking to a muppet TBH. The law of contract is centuries old and extremely simple. The fact its an internet auction makes no difference. Any court would simply consider the circumstances and should enforce the contract - its just that the reality is often a lot less practical. I mean if he claims to have sold it elsewhere, theres nothing to enforce and what damages could you possible have incurred?

Courts hate enforcing contracts of emplyment for example, even though the law can be quite clear on the matter.
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What happened is i sold welding set for £400 buyer didnt want it ebay just said do the despute thing get your fee back so ive lost nothing so would the court force the buyer to pay £400 or take the view that ive lost nothing so side with the buyer.If it was legally binding i should have been able to claim the £400 for the item
 
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