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Sweety said:
Hummingbird I like it :smile: :smile: 8) 8) Am I right in thinking you lifted the rear end by fitting standard LWB springs :?

Yes just LWB springs in the back and wound the front up to almost match on the torsion bars. I'm planning on getting some Pro Comp shocks in the near future and I might talk myself into some longer springs still at the same time. I'll be fitting longer than std shocks and the LWB springs are harder, so shorter unladen, and thus theres more chance of them dislocating, so 2" lifted SWB springs might be the order of the day.
 
hummingbird said:
Sweety said:
Hummingbird I like it :smile: :smile: 8) 8) Am I right in thinking you lifted the rear end by fitting standard LWB springs :?

Yes just LWB springs in the back and wound the front up to almost match on the torsion bars. I'm planning on getting some Pro Comp shocks in the near future and I might talk myself into some longer springs still at the same time. I'll be fitting longer than std shocks and the LWB springs are harder, so shorter unladen, and thus theres more chance of them dislocating, so 2" lifted SWB springs might be the order of the day.

Sorry if I sound dumb :oops: Will you be able to get the extra adjustment on the torsion bars to relevel it or will you have to remove the bars & refit them a couple of splines around :? I know you can do this mainly on french cars to lower the back end just not sure if it would work to highten a Mav/T2 :? :?
 
Not sure how much adjustment is left, but if need be yes you can move them round spline or 2, so I am lead to believe anyway.
 
You can do this but I dont think standard torsion bars would stand up to it for long. I f you go as far as to turn them a spline then you might as well fit uprated bars. I personaly do not like torrsion bars at all, would prefer to have coils all round, although leafs and a solid front axel would allow for some serious lift!
 
NNMan said:
You can do this but I dont think standard torsion bars would stand up to it for long. I f you go as far as to turn them a spline then you might as well fit uprated bars. I personaly do not like torrsion bars at all, would prefer to have coils all round, although leafs and a solid front axel would allow for some serious lift!

If you want a live front axle, then take a serious look at Patrols, they still have them which is why I wanted one to off road.
 
Really can't see the point of fitting uprated coil springs, if anything I want softer ones off road, the front is horrendously hard even with the anti roll bar removed. A torsion spring is fine as someones said it's common practice on Peugouts etc to lower then on the splines quite radically at times too but I've also seen road rally pugs lifted that way without any problems.

Biggest problem with the twin wishbone set up is the limited travel. If I lift it much more I'll loose all my droop but will gain more bump travel which is where I could get trouble with the torsion bars being over stressed. Larger bump stops would cure that though as would removing the bottom bump stops. However I would then come unstuck in that the driveshafts CVs might end up operating beyond the extremes of there range - one knackerd CV joint. I've had a look and it would be possible to lower the front diff to avoid this, but this would involve lowering the two crossmembers which would be counter productive as they are already just about the lowest point at the front of the truck.

I really can't see a Patrol axle under a Maverick unless it had massive arch extensions etc and I certainly wouldn't be mounting it on cart springs if I did, lift can be achived on any live axle system easily enough.

Now what I really need for the front end is a set of portal hubs off a Humvee, they run independent all round with portal style hubs, thats the real solution, however back in the real world as they are somewhat pricey and would be major re-engineering to fit - I've looked at it.

To get some more height I need bigger rubber. I've only got 30s on at the moment and a few people are running 31s, now with my 60mm body lift I've got over 2 inches more clearance in the arches, which means 35s might be a possibility, I need to borrow a set to try them, don't mind trimming the arches get them in.

But that would put the gearing up 20%. As I've got a petrol, I've already got the lower of the diff ratios so thats not an option and I don't know of any other ways of lowering the gearing thats available for these trucks - but anyway a new clutch would be first as this ones getting tired and you never know it might cope on standard gearing.
 
hummingbird said:
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Now what I really need for the front end is a set of portal hubs off a Humvee, they run independent all round with portal style hubs, thats the real solution, however back in the real world as they are somewhat pricey and would be major re-engineering to fit - I've looked at it.

Theres a guy advertising in TOR magazine, hes selling a pair of unimog axles if your interested :wink: Now that would give you a lift :roll: Cheap too 8O
 
cameraman said:
hummingbird said:
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Now what I really need for the front end is a set of portal hubs off a Humvee, they run independent all round with portal style hubs, thats the real solution, however back in the real world as they are somewhat pricey and would be major re-engineering to fit - I've looked at it.

Theres a guy advertising in TOR magazine, hes selling a pair of unimog axles if your interested :wink: Now that would give you a lift :roll: Cheap too 8O

Dude, Unimog axels now your talking serious mods :smile:
 
NNMan said:
cameraman said:
hummingbird said:
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Now what I really need for the front end is a set of portal hubs off a Humvee, they run independent all round with portal style hubs, thats the real solution, however back in the real world as they are somewhat pricey and would be major re-engineering to fit - I've looked at it.

Theres a guy advertising in TOR magazine, hes selling a pair of unimog axles if your interested :wink: Now that would give you a lift :roll: Cheap too 8O

Dude, Unimog axels now your talking serious mods :smile:

Yeah, but how cool would that be on a Nissan or a Ford
 
cameraman said:
hummingbird said:
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Now what I really need for the front end is a set of portal hubs off a Humvee, they run independent all round with portal style hubs, thats the real solution, however back in the real world as they are somewhat pricey and would be major re-engineering to fit - I've looked at it.

Theres a guy advertising in TOR magazine, hes selling a pair of unimog axles if your interested :wink: Now that would give you a lift :roll: Cheap too 8O

Nah, but thanks anyway. With mog axles your back on live axles, which have their pluses I won't argue, but not for me. I keep eyeing up the crop sprayers round here, they have got serious portals, make mogs look tame.
 
Tried a number of places for bolts today and no joy except for one that would make me 100 at about £2 each.

So any assistance anyone can give would be appreciatted.

Spec is

M12 x 1.25 x 160mm bolts - not set screws ie with a large unthreaded part.


Alternatives are to get some normal M12 x 200s and cut end off and buy M12 x 1.25 tap and tap the bolt or cut holes in box section so I can get to the back of the captives, drill em out and use normal M12 nuts instead.
 
01926 883671 is spa fasteners if theyve got em i can collect and get them posted to u as there only ten mins from me there usally very helpfull.
just a thought but how about la supertrux or tbr if they do lift kits may have suplier of bolts or u reckon just buy a kit from someone?
 
I've yet to find anyone who list a body lift for the T2/Mav. LA Supertrux list other models for them to fit only at £848, which considering I was working alone at home on a rusty old truck and it took me under 8 hours all in, makes me think they have factored in lots of money for unseen eventualities, like not having the right bolts etc and they'll just throw money at it to get it done if need be. Even at main dealer rates it shouldn't cost that much.

I'll sort it somehow.
 
yeagh i was thinkin navaras bound to use same bolts etc surely nissan would keep it simple an maybe theyd know where to get some from? didnt exspect you to spend £800 quid when more than capable of diy!
 
Thanks for the suggestions from various people, on this thread and by PM, but I've bought some M12 x 1.75 x 200mm bolts and have ordered an M12 x 1.25 die. So I can cut the threaded portion off and then thread the first 40mm of it.

I had to see my tool supplier today anyway and when I found out how much the tap was it wasn't worth messing around, he didn't have one with him but they're sending one out to me. I got the M12 x 1.75s from BAPP and they're going to look into getting supplies of M12 x 1.25s for me so when someone else want to follow my lead with a lift it shouldn't be so difficult.
 

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