Census

[solarman216]

So who is going to answer questions on their sexual preferences for one, its my business and will not be answered, like very many of the other invasive questions, what is the general opinion on here, Rick

[zippy656]

So who is going to answer questions on their sexual preferences for one, its my business and will not be answered, like very many of the other invasive questions, what is the general opinion on here, Rick


ive not idea what YOUR sexual preferences is.


but each to there own
!! :doh

but im sure there are a few questions ill not answer

[(RIP) PLANK]

I find many of the questions we are asked in everyday life offencive and unnecessary, for example, at the dentist I am asked my ethic group every time I go :nenau and the choices on the form are silly and inadequate.

and as you say sexuality is private, and subjective. I have a friend, a woman who prefers the company of women, (who is also a Dr of sociology) who came up with an interesting way to look at sexuality - there is no such thin as a homosexual or heterosexual person, there are simply sexual experiences, people should not be labelled by their choices. I agree with this - each person and relationship is unique.

off my soap box :thumb2

[jace]

i have never answered a single census questionaire,they threatend me with court fines alsorts,but never followed it up lol

[clivvy]

I dont think ive ever done a census questionairre...at least I cant remember doing on. But anyway, in response to Ricks comments, id say those types of questions are irrelevent, invasive and personal.

[macabethiel]

So who is going to answer questions on their sexual preferences for one, its my business and will not be answered, like very many of the other invasive questions, what is the general opinion on here, Rick

I think the question about sexuality will be optional as are the ethnicity questions.

When I did the last census I just made up loads of answers as they can hardly check up on you as its confidential !

It might be compulsory to return the form but the manner of the response is down to you so how can they validate the replies ?

If I say I am a Naxolite or a Zorastrian how are they going to check this is my political or religious belief ?

[jace]

the last council questionaire about gauging there clientel got filled in as agy and lesbian muslim,gypsy i didnt want any of there favorite groups to feel left out!
im not on voters reg either, you could of course fill forms in as michael rodent or scot f'alltodowithu
i think jedi is now a recognised religion unsure about cling ons id have to check!

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

err clingons are race, cling ons well something else

whats agy, her off how clean is shite hole?

[(RIP) PLANK]

makes you wonder - if they are optional, what is the point? :nenau

[makeitfit]

I love census quiz time :D
We always put the most obscure answers we can think of.
I seem to remember last time we were all Jedi clerics , my job was "The Book" , as in the hitch hickers guide to the galaxy Peter Jones (that's me):lol
Our children were of the night and the house is occupied by several pigs who pay a small amount of rent:rolleyes:

[(RIP) PLANK]

i was Chinese at the dentist this week :thu

[(RIP) PLANK]

i was Chinese at the dentist this week :thumbs

[jace]

99% people will diligantly fill them in,my mom an dad used to! theere was talk of doing away with it as we all apear on tonnes databases its pointless and can be done cheeper by cross referencing them.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

so when is census, normally 1st year of decade, well supposed second,
1991, 2001, 2011. not seen any blurb about it yet.

I was an anumerator on the 91, good fun for a nosey git like me....
2001 didnt bother as was working more than full time.

[(RIP) PLANK]

here were census people at Appleby last year, banging on about the importance of it all. I was even stopped at a census point in Staffordshire last may! :nenau

[Deleted account DD]

I dont intend filling the census in. Cant see the value in it tbh.

We had a form round at work a bit back. Asked our nationality/ethnic b gnd via tick boxes.

Under the "white" options it had Welsh, Scottish , British and Other.

I complained it didnt have English on it. Was told to wind my neck in The rest of the shift took an interest and loads more complaints went in as well as most ticking "white other" really skewed their results :D:D:D:thumb2

Small victory but a god un.

[extreme-4x4]

anyone know the history of the census ... its quite interesting :cool:

[jace]

see where everyone is,so they can tax em lol?

[extreme-4x4]

I dont intend filling the census in. Cant see the value in it tbh.

We had a form round at work a bit back. Asked our nationality/ethnic b gnd via tick boxes.

Under the "white" options it had Welsh, Scottish , British and Other.

I complained it didnt have English on it. Was told to wind my neck in The rest of the shift took an interest and loads more complaints went in as well as most ticking "white other" really skewed their results :D:D:D:thumb2

Small victory but a god un.


or maybe english was left off deliberately and some expert decided to add the option "other" to make the figures suit them ... you could have played into there hands .

should have refused to complete until your legally recognised nationality/option was included on the form .

[Daz__]

i have never answered a single census questionaire,they threatend me with court fines alsorts,but never followed it up lol

Haha! Same here! the nosey Bas***ds!

The old git collecting them kept stalking me and waiting for me when i got home from work! i used to have to drive straight past and park round the corner and sneek in the back!

[Deleted account DD]

or maybe english was left off deliberately and some expert decided to add the option "other" to make the figures suit them ... you could have played into there hands .

should have refused to complete until your legally recognised nationality/option was included on the form .


we thought that about the missed off bit but it was just a bit of a crap lack of decent design.

It totally screwed the results :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

probably english isnt a nationality, yet, the scots, welsh, northern ireland even have
own governing bodies, assemblies what ever.

til we kick em out of westminster and have that as ours, omg playing to the edl now
lol, we, the english wont have a nation. mind i'd start again, maybe in planks back yard
and bull doze westminster or let it flood as it will sooner or later.

[(RIP) PLANK]

:lolprobably english isnt a nationality, yet, the scots, welsh, northern ireland even have
own governing bodies, assemblies what ever.

til we kick em out of westminster and have that as ours, omg playing to the edl now
lol, we, the english wont have a nation. mind i'd start again, maybe in planks back yard
and bull doze westminster or let it flood as it will sooner or later.

you can have a government in my back yard if you like, but! you will have to do things my way :naughty

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

exactly mate, we'll get this country back on its feet or wheels.

[(RIP) PLANK]

exactly mate, we'll get this country back on its feet or wheels.

put an end to everyone 'commuting' miles to work for a start :thumbs

[jace]

dont the welsh/scottish assemblys seem a waste of time? until there allowed to do everything for themselves there just an added exspense! money we could use to beef up security around our real power base,somewhere in a field nr dudley lol

[(RIP) PLANK]

dont the welsh/scottish assemblys seem a waste of time? until there allowed to do everything for themselves there just an added exspense! money we could use to beef up security around our real power base,somewhere in a field nr dudley lol

and with my office, proceedings would be very transparent :augie

[Deleted account DD]

probably english isnt a nationality, yet, the scots, welsh, northern ireland even have
own governing bodies, assemblies what ever.



Thats what i was told :thumb2 and is quite probably correct

However :augiei replied that we were known collectively as Welsh, Scottish and English with British being considered more an overarching description as in British isles (Irish wasnt even on the form!!!)

They couldnt counter that one which is why the boss tol d me to f off and the shift fill in the closest :D:D:D:D:D:D

[extreme-4x4]

probably english isnt a nationality, yet, the scots, welsh, northern ireland even have
own governing bodies, assemblies what ever.

til we kick em out of westminster and have that as ours, omg playing to the edl now
lol, we, the english wont have a nation. mind i'd start again, maybe in planks back yard
and bull doze westminster or let it flood as it will sooner or later.


with the new way the world is so freely viewing what is going on around the world (live) demonstrations and the falling of dictators around the world . the way wars a fought.

the world is all falling for what we all hope or lead to believe is a democratic world ....

trouble is what freedom do WE in the democratic societies actually have . ok we dont stone to death adulterous wives, or cut of limbs from thieves, or publicly execute other criminals ... but those are the laws of the land that have been around for a long period of time , people know the risk before crimes are committed and are bought up knowing the laws of the land they inhabit .

in our free country/society there is still a consequence/punishment for not towing the line .

i wonder if . we are not all being sold the dream of a free society when really we are actually getting a new world order

if you think about it a new world order is one person as a president of the world and something close to the nazi party/army to keep the peoples in line without the ethnic cleansing

they are already wanting in place

i.d cards.

no passports

grass on your neighbour . and yes you can do that online with all the big ones



i honestly wonder what freedoms we actually get in this free society.
but i struggle to find any other option .


if you look at hitlers reign of terror, it was a bloody well organised and efficient machine. if you look past the tanks and guns .
the bit i never understood so researched a lot. was the cleansing of the german race, where they put to death or experimented on there own people (even worse when you think ordered by an austrian bloke with black hair).

we as free society are repulsed by the nazi's crimes or dictators ethnic cleansing and experimenting on the sick. but how many of our new medical techniques are a direct result of the sick stuff the nazi doctors did , often to there own people

so getting back on topic, ill just do my census . its a nothing in the light of things ;)

[extreme-4x4]

probably english isnt a nationality, yet, the scots, welsh, northern ireland even have
own governing bodies, assemblies what ever.

til we kick em out of westminster and have that as ours, omg playing to the edl now
lol, we, the english wont have a nation. mind i'd start again, maybe in planks back yard
and bull doze westminster or let it flood as it will sooner or later.

if the scots want scotland fine give em it

same for wales let em have it.

but id expect in return the america's back :thumbs

[solarman216]

Well thanks guys, you have confirmed what I thought, you are mostly anti this kind of crap, so I will not be filling mine in, it will go where all junk mail goes, into the burnable pile, Rick

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Extreme like the americas back, like it, there is a very good sketch, tongue in cheek
along lines well you've proven cant look after yourselves so taking you back in hand.

irish on census, hmm tricky, are the NI folks irish, which sounds like as per republic
or british, or english, isnt that when GB becomes UK when NI is included.

Til recently the US owned rail freight operator was English Welsh Scottish, better not
say is now owned by DB Schenker yep the germans

[TONUP]

i was Chinese at the dentist this week :thumbs

What time was your appointment... 2:30... get it? get it?

Never mind I apologise!!

Alan

[lacroupade]

Tonup - go and stand in the corner! :question

I'm 56 and I've done one census in all those years.

I believe the number of uncompleted forms ran into the millions last time :thumb2

Oh and this apparently....

You can be fined for refusing to answer any census question EXCEPT those related to religion.

QUOTE:
Penalties
(1) If any person—
(a) refuses or neglects to comply with or acts in contravention of any of the provisions of this Act or any Order in Council or regulations made under this Act; or
(b) being a person required under this Act to make a statutory declaration with respect to the performance of his duties, makes a false declaration; or
(c) being a person required by an Order in Council or regulations made under this Act to make, sign, or deliver any document, makes, signs, or delivers, or causes to be made, signed, or delivered a false document; or
(d) being a person required in pursuance of any such Order in Council or regulations to answer any question, refuses to answer or gives a false answer to that question; he shall for each offence be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding [level 3 on the standard scale].
[(1A) But no person shall be liable to a penalty under subsection (1) for refusing or neglecting to state any particulars in respect of religion.]
[(2) If the Registrar-General for England and Wales or the Registrar-General for Scotland (“the Registrars”) or any person who is—
(a) under the control of either of the Registrars; or
(b) a supplier of any services to either of them, discloses any personal census information to another person, without lawful authority, he shall be guilty of an offence.
(3) If any person discloses to another person any personal census information which he knows has been disclosed in contravention of this Act, he shall be guilty of an offence.
(4) It shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (2) or (3) to prove—
(a) that at the time of the alleged offence he believed—
(i) that he was acting with lawful authority; or
(ii) that the information in question was not personal census information; and
(b) that he had no reasonable cause to believe otherwise.
(5) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (2) or (3) shall be liable—
(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to both;
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or to a fine or to both.
(6) For the purposes of this section—
(a) references to a Registrar include, where he is also the holder of a designated office, references to him in his capacity as the holder of that office;
(b) a person is to be treated as under the control of one of the Registrars if he is, or has been—
(i) employed by that Registrar (whether or not on a full-time basis); or
(ii) otherwise employed, or acting, (whether or not on a full-time basis) as part of that Registrar’s staff for purposes of this Act;
(c) a person is to be treated as a supplier of services to a Registrar if he—.
(i) supplies, or has supplied, any services to that Registrar in connection with the discharge by that Registrar of any of his functions; or
(ii) is, or has been, employed by such a supplier.
(7) In this section— “census information” means any information which is—
(i) acquired by any person mentioned in subsection (2) above in the course of any work done by him in connection with the discharge of functions under section 2 or 4 of this Act;
(ii) acquired by any such person in the course of working, for purposes of section 5 of this Act, with any information acquired as mentioned in subparagraph (i) above; or
(iii) derived from any information so acquired; “designated office”, in relation to a Registrar, means any office for the time being designated by him in writing for the purposes of this section; and “personal census information” means any census information which relates to an identifiable person or household.]

[lacroupade]

Oh and this (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159011) is a laugh........and this (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/136878/2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-2011-census-is-intrusive-and-unnecessary-), although old, tells us that its dear old Capita, private sector leeching sub-contractor darling of the public sector running the census. If you've ever had a problem with your council tax you'll know what an utter shower of sh1t they are :doh

[Liam]

So I suppose if I get the Census Enumerator's job,I'll fall out with a lot of the people on here:( On the other hand,I'll have a few quid coming in for 8 weeks which will be nice.

Why should they have an option to put Irish as nationality on an UK census form or a work related form?

Anyway,I'll fill it in, Tesco and other supermarket chains know when and what type of bog roll you buy so no big deal if the Government know what I like to have a little sexual fun with. It's much easier to refuse to fill in a form than march to the House of Commons to protest, sadly not filling in the form is nowhere near as effective as people power, but if it makes you feel powerful for a few minutes, what the heck,enjoy your mini revolution.:D:D

[jace]

dont capita do congestion charge aswell! big brother is watching.

[briggie]

i suppose this information will become available to marketing companies for a price obviously :augie like the community register

[lacroupade]

dont capita do congestion charge aswell! big brother is watching.

Certainly do. They make millions out of local and central government.

[jace]

i wonder how many ex ministers are on board or listed as "consultants" lol.

[lacroupade]

i wonder how many ex ministers are on board or listed as "consultants" lol.

more then you can ever imagine mate - jobs for the boys and all that.:doh

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

so have we got a date for the census then. think previously was early spring
once clocks go forward, april/may maybe avoids major holidays.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

http://2011.census.gov.uk/

27th March 2011

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

can do it online, with unique identifier from paper form when it arrives

[lacroupade]

http://2011.census.gov.uk/

27th March 2011

Shame, I'm camping on that day :augie

...and before Plank grasps the opportunity, yes, its probably 'within tent' to avoid the census :lol

[jace]

how many of us would it take giving stoopid answers to sway the results or throw a spanner in works?

[lacroupade]

how many of us would it take giving stoopid answers to sway the results or throw a spanner in works?

WTF does it matter to the government? :nenau

If the facts don't fit they just make up new ones.:doh

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

how many of us would it take giving stoopid answers to sway the results or throw a spanner in works?

well saying goes give enough monkeys a typewriter each and eventually they'll turn
out some great piece of literature between them.

how random is random....

[solarman216]

Well then gents and ladies, on the eve of our party to celebrate stuffing the planning system, on the four year rule re conversion of an existing agricultural building to full living accommodation, unless it arrives in the post tomorrow we have not had a census form, very odd as we are on the electoral register, and jims place is on the normal address data bases, so we do not have one to throw on the fire, I am disappointed, Rick

[Liam]

Well,surprise ,surprise. The majority of the census enumerators around here are; retired or serving Gardai (police),serving or retired prison officers,retired or serving teachers,ex health Service workers,and currently serving school secretaries. Wonder how that happened:rolleyes:

[macabethiel]

Well,surprise ,surprise. The majority of the census enumerators around here are; retired or serving Gardai (police),serving or retired prison officers,retired or serving teachers,ex health Service workers,and currently serving school secretaries. Wonder how that happened:rolleyes:


When my Missus worked in Local Government she used to be a Polling Clerk at local & general elections when she left they never took her up on her applications.

Guess its jobs for the Boys or Galls does not make it right though.