Zippy and 4x4 response

[briggie]

just checked our insurance policies ... it says class 1 business use ..... is that ok ?:nenau

what exactly does class 1 business use mean ? :nenau , we have to have it on both vehicles because sheilas work insist on it for any vehicles she may use

 

[kbekl]

also you will need to find what radio systems the group use we currently use mobiles but are looking into SAR and br at the mo

 

[Terranosaurus]

id like to help out with 4x4 response , but im not sure how id get on because of my mobility problems .. ie if i get stuck , or have to get out of the vehicle

No reason you can't be involved, your local group Yorks-Lincs 4x4 Response have a member who uses a mobility scooter and he has been very useful. Dinky from here too, he isn't the most mobile of people but has been on a number of callouts.

The next local meeting is Wednesday 15th December 2010, Sair Inn from 20.00hrs.

also you will need to find what radio systems the group use we currently use mobiles but are looking into SAR and br at the mo

Is that NW4x4R?

To the best of my knowledge mobile phone is still the primary communication method for all 4x4 Response groups. Most supplement this with CB (very common in 4x4 community anyway), Amateur radio (good number of responders are amateurs and many groups arrange courses) and PMR for close range stuff as they are very cheap. There are a few other systems in use but ultimately none can provide the national coverage a mobile phone can. 4x4 needs to have resilient forms of communications but it is not our remit to provide emergency comms, Raynet already do that, bridges are being built at local an national level to enable closer working with them.

Briggie for YL4x4R you don't need any form of radio, nice to have but not compulsory.

 

[kbekl]

No reason you can't be involved, your local group Yorks-Lincs 4x4 Response have a member who uses a mobility scooter and he has been very useful. Dinky from here too, he isn't the most mobile of people but has been on a number of callouts.

The next local meeting is Wednesday 15th December 2010, Sair Inn from 20.00hrs.



Is that NW4x4R?

To the best of my knowledge mobile phone is still the primary communication method for all 4x4 Response groups. Most supplement this with CB (very common in 4x4 community anyway), Amateur radio (good number of responders are amateurs and many groups arrange courses) and PMR for close range stuff as they are very cheap. There are a few other systems in use but ultimately none can provide the national coverage a mobile phone can. 4x4 needs to have resilient forms of communications but it is not our remit to provide emergency comms, Raynet already do that, bridges are being built at local an national level to enable closer working with them.

Briggie for YL4x4R you don't need any form of radio, nice to have but not compulsory.

yes nw4x4r, it has recently be mentioned but they are looking into a group license, don't know where it will end up but at the mo it is just an idea

do all the other groups attend events or similar as we have a couple in 2011 comming up last was the Keswick to Barrow Walk:thumbs

 

[briggie]

i have a very good radio ( see my signature ) ..... oh and a little aerial :augie

 

[Terranosaurus]

i have a very good radio ( see my signature ) ..... oh and a little aerial :augie

4x4 response vehicles need to be squeaky clean legal or the police and other services won't use us, so buners are a no no I'm afriad - not to mention highly antisocial.

 

[briggie]

4x4 response vehicles need to be squeaky clean legal or the police and other services won't use us, so buners are a no no I'm afriad - not to mention highly antisocial.

as far as im aware it is pefectly legal to own a linear amp , ... it is however illegal to use it .... my stalker is perfectly legal anyway ( on legal fm )

 

[Terranosaurus]

Perfectly true - very stupid law - ad are you telling me you don't use it?

 

[briggie]

Perfectly true - very stupid law - ad are you telling me you don't use it?

it looks very pretty

 

[briggie]

i might also add that it is illegal to exceed 70mph ...... and extremly anti social too ..... most cars on the road today are capable of speeds far in excess of this .......i wonder how many do actually ?

 

[kbekl]

i might also add that it is illegal to exceed 70mph ...... and extremly anti social too ..... most cars on the road today are capable of speeds far in excess of this .......i wonder how many do actually ?

well the pete thats strike 2 for you :lol:lol:lol

 

[briggie]

well the pete thats strike 2 for you :lol:lol:lol

qed

 

[jims-terrano]

Watching and enjoying reading this thread with interest. Terranosaurus is defo they guy to speak to about 4x4 response.

Pete, you armed with a mobile phone and a second battery to run your radio from could be very usefull to any vunteer group. Pete you have something that is worth far more than any qual, that's experience. You could easily run a mobile control station. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying you souldn't join them and go out on shouts it's just that you've probably had more operating experience than possibly anyone else on here.

If all goes well for me then I should be able to run Foundation Courses and arrange the exams as a spin off from my ATC work.

Just out of interest, if you were out in the snow with your truck minding your own business and you stumble upon someone that needs a tug out of a hole. So tow strops attached off you go and oh no their chassis is bent or something. Just who will be held liable? In this day and age people are only too willing to claim the shirt off your back so I can only advise caution.


Jim

 

[MontysMaverick]

Watching and enjoying reading this thread with interest. Terranosaurus is defo they guy to speak to about 4x4 response.

Pete, you armed with a mobile phone and a second battery to run your radio from could be very usefull to any vunteer group. Pete you have something that is worth far more than any qual, that's experience. You could easily run a mobile control station. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying you souldn't join them and go out on shouts it's just that you've probably had more operating experience than possibly anyone else on here.

If all goes well for me then I should be able to run Foundation Courses and arrange the exams as a spin off from my ATC work.

Just out of interest, if you were out in the snow with your truck minding your own business and you stumble upon someone that needs a tug out of a hole. So tow strops attached off you go and oh no their chassis is bent or something. Just who will be held liable? In this day and age people are only too willing to claim the shirt off your back so I can only advise caution.


Jim

Totally agree with regards of petes operating experience,knowledge etc even something like phonetics can be difficult to learn if youve zero radio experience, and he would be a big asset to any response organisation. Although, I do feel that Pete would benefit from doing one of your foundation courses as hed fly it with his knowledge and operating experience and would gain by being totally legit, Pete you are right with regards to your linear and even the speed limit, but this aint the point is it ..really. at least if pete had a foundation licence he could volunteer for both the response groups and raynet, as raynet around this location is struggling for good operators who are prepared to go that extra mile. As for the merits of bending someones chassis, this is a very real thing in todays climate and I would only assist someone if they had they correct towing eyes fitted to their vehicle, if they didnt or werent prepared to use them, then I would offer to assist and take them to a safe point like their home or a local garage etc.

Pete, get the foundation course done and offer your services, it can be a real way of giving something back to society

 

[lacroupade]

yes nw4x4r, it has recently be mentioned but they are looking into a group license, don't know where it will end up but at the mo it is just an idea

do all the other groups attend events or similar as we have a couple in 2011 comming up last was the Keswick to Barrow Walk:thumbs

why on earth would anyone want to walk to Barrow????? the best thing about that dump is the road out of it :lol:lol:lol

 

[briggie]

Totally agree with regards of petes operating experience,knowledge etc even something like phonetics can be difficult to learn if youve zero radio experience, and he would be a big asset to any response organisation. Although, I do feel that Pete would benefit from doing one of your foundation courses as hed fly it with his knowledge and operating experience and would gain by being totally legit, Pete you are right with regards to your linear and even the speed limit, but this aint the point is it ..really. at least if pete had a foundation licence he could volunteer for both the response groups and raynet, as raynet around this location is struggling for good operators who are prepared to go that extra mile. As for the merits of bending someones chassis, this is a very real thing in todays climate and I would only assist someone if they had they correct towing eyes fitted to their vehicle, if they didnt or werent prepared to use them, then I would offer to assist and take them to a safe point like their home or a local garage etc.

Pete, get the foundation course done and offer your services, it can be a real way of giving something back to society

thankyou monty and others for your input , its something i have been considering for some time ( ask jim ) , but a couple of things really get to me . one is the fact that i allready have a perfectly legit set up , and secondly this " holier than thou " attitude from some hams who have a foundation licence after a short exam , and are telling me off for my equipment after 30 years !!!..... it really gets on my tits

 

[briggie]

although i must admit raynet interests me tremendously .... for those who are as old as me ... i used to be a react monitor in the 80s :naughty

 

[jims-terrano]

although i must admit raynet interests me tremendously .... for those who are as old as me ... i used to be a react monitor in the 80s :naughty

Good god Ch 9 man ehh, yep your old Pete :lol:lol

Jim

 

[briggie]

me and jim have had quite a few chats with regard to my intentions , however . the sheer cost of equipment is cost prohibitive at the mo , a foundation licence is not me at all ..... i try my best in every thing i do ( not always succesfull , but i try ) .... and would only be happy with a full ham licence ..... so i dont see the point in purchasing equipment for a foundation holder ..... see my point ?

 

[jims-terrano]

thankyou monty and others for your input , its something i have been considering for some time ( ask jim ) , but a couple of things really get to me . one is the fact that i allready have a perfectly legit set up , and secondly this " holier than thou " attitude from some hams who have a foundation licence after a short exam , and are telling me off for my equipment after 30 years !!!..... it really gets on my tits

Don't let the odd one or two spoil it for you Pete. Plenty people cut their teeth on CB and still use both. I'd have an operator with your experience and common sense in RAYNET any day Pete. Your nearest would probably be Calderdale and I could put you in touch with them no prob's. Best thing is just because your a member of one group it doesn't stop you helping other groups too.

Jim