Ziehl-Abegg fan motor

[solarman216]

As there are many trades on here, I just wonder if the title means anything to anyone that can help with a new motor it is an MK or AC106 or maybe it is an MK AC106 whatever I have a customer in desperate need, Rick

 

[don simon]

As there are many trades on here, I just wonder if the title means anything to anyone that can help with a new motor it is an MK or AC106 or maybe it is an MK AC106 whatever I have a customer in desperate need, Rick

How old is the unit?
Fan technology has moved on a lot and it's possible that the fan you're looking for is not efficient enough and therefore not available.
What have the company said?
It's all abour ce motors these days.

 

[solarman216]

Do not know the age, but company in the UK still shows them on line, and will be contacting them in the morning, but so often when dealing with these sort of firms, is that they will not deal with me but have to go through one of their dealers, which all adds time to the job, restaurant is closed till I get this fan going, the motor is currently with an old and valued electrical engineering firm in Hastings but he seemed doubtful when he saw it, he has rewound odd motors for me in the past so may yet come up trumps but am just trying to be one step ahead if he cannot, Rick

 

[don simon]

Do not know the age, but company in the UK still shows them on line, and will be contacting them in the morning, but so often when dealing with these sort of firms, is that they will not deal with me but have to go through one of their dealers, which all adds time to the job, restaurant is closed till I get this fan going, the motor is currently with an old and valued electrical engineering firm in Hastings but he seemed doubtful when he saw it, he has rewound odd motors for me in the past so may yet come up trumps but am just trying to be one step ahead if he cannot, Rick

You did better than me in finding something on-line. If they don't sell direct, as you know, it'll be resellers and unless you get lucky with someone who's carrying stock. Again, you know all this.
I'd still be getting in touch with them, they'll tell you where the stock is and how long it'll take to get it to you.
I've worked for companies that sell direct and current company only uses resellers, nothing to lose calling them in the morning.

 

[solarman216]

I have now managed 3 numbers for calling in the morrow, one is in Southampton we will see if they have stock, seems there are 9 sizes of this motor but the numbers on the stupid printed label are long gone, so just hope we can identify it on mechanical sizing and fan size, Rick

 

[solarman216]

No joy at all, so going for a new fan and an adaptor plate, Rick

 

[terranosaurusdoug]

What is the fan off of Rick?

 

[solarman216]

It is a commercial kitchen canopy extractor, this particular motor only is coming in at lots of money and 6 weeks lead time, so new off the shelf it is, at a fraction of the cost, Rick

 

[terranosaurusdoug]

It is a commercial kitchen canopy extractor, this particular motor only is coming in at lots of money and 6 weeks lead time, so new off the shelf it is, at a fraction of the cost, Rick

Give these guys a try Rick, I have used them a couple times with good success :thumb2
http://www.cateringparts.net/

 

[solarman216]

I use them lots for grill bits etc, but doubt they will deal with big fan motors, it is a bit more specialised, Rick

 

[solarman216]

Just so you all know the details, this is the old fan housing

 

[solarman216]

Replacement Flactwoods fan to be grafted into the housing

 

[solarman216]

Fitted into the housing

 

[don simon]

Replacement Flactwoods fan to be grafted into the housing

I hope the fan and motor are kept well away from the air path.

 

[solarman216]

The old bad motor and fan, new unit running well, Rick

 

[solarman216]

I hope the fan and motor are kept well away from the air path.

Not quite with you there don? the motor is in the air stream as is designed, Rick

 

[don simon]

Kitchens aren't my thing, I do commercial and schools, but I understand that putting the fan/motor in the airstream is not good practice due to grease/cleanliness and longevity. I guess that if there is sufficient filtration, there won't be a problem. I'm not too sure what the regs are though.

 

[solarman216]

The fan we used was a spare 500mm Flakt Woods axial jobbie, but it seems it is not powerful enough as they are getting canopy over spill, so now the hunt is on for a reasonably priced more powerful replacement, but as they can function the pressure is off so more time to track a suitable unit down, Sunday pm I had a call from another eating house that their walk in freezer was at only -2 C so popped in and diagnosed bad compressor, it was hot but not running and tripping out on it's internal safety device, tried some so called 24/7 refrige people but no answers, called again Mon am, those that answered said anything from 2 to 6 weeks, I gave them a small chest freezer left over from Bears but could do no more, Mon pm I was free having completed a job early, so went down to have a further look at about 3pm not being too hopeful, anyway pulled the wire off the compressor and tested it with a meter and seemed OK so next pulled the two capacitors and gave those a quick check with my rather ancient capacitance meter and they both read bad, so off to Deeprose in Hastings to have this confirmed and return with two nice new ones and lo and behold it is up and running, but sadly not before they had lost a large portion of their stock, I have been telling people with big freezers that they need some back up for emergency's just like this and also for running repairs that can sometimes take a few hours to do, do they listen! of course not, such is my life, Rick

 

[johnb5177]

'The impossible we can do today, miracles take a little longer'.....:doh....

 

[solarman216]

Further to the walk in freezer, the repair only lasted a day, new capacitors fried, so motor is the real culprit, new one fitted yesterday, vac'd it down and recharged it with 1.1Kg 404, called in today as a follow up and got the thumbs up from the staff, seems it is a lot quieter than the old one, I will be cutting the top off of the compressor removed to find out why it failed, Rick