Winches and advice sort please

[dino]

Any one give a little advice as i have never used a winch before

Just looking at price of winches and found this:
http://www.northerntooluk.com/products.asp?partno=168300E&cm_mmc=Affiliate%20Window-_-Datafeed-_-AW-65970-_-Product-168300E&cm_mmc=Affiliate%20Window-_-Appended%20Click-_-AW-65970-_-null

Or
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/p...2volt-winch-lp8500/path/hand-electric-winches

Any one used these?:
http://www.dborc.co.uk/goodwinch/

 

[extreme-4x4]

first one is a quad winch
second one is a good make a little small but ok good for parts and repair

third never heard of them


the thing with winches is

it need to be a good make
as strong as you can get

but its only going to be as good as the fixing to the truck so you want the best of that too. same as the electrics

i was offered a warn 8500-9000 ish brand new in the box a while back but left it 400 quid ..... should have had it now

so you want the best you can afford
the best fixing you can get
and the best electrics you can afford

and buy a book or dvd on how to use it and it will be a good tool that will last.......


anything else your wasting your money


unles you try portable winch then you can pull back or front whichever is easiest to get you out.... but you will need to double up and know how to use it


winches are good...... but a good rope will get you out of most things


i plan to get some more made up. or ask our residant sailor to make some

 

[dino]

first one is a quad winch
second one is a good make a little small but ok good for parts and repair

third never heard of them


the thing with winches is

it need to be a good make
as strong as you can get

but its only going to be as good as the fixing to the truck so you want the best of that too. same as the electrics

i was offered a warn 8500-9000 ish brand new in the box a while back but left it 400 quid ..... should have had it now

so you want the best you can afford
the best fixing you can get
and the best electrics you can afford

and buy a book or dvd on how to use it and it will be a good tool that will last.......


anything else your wasting your money


unles you try portable winch then you can pull back or front whichever is easiest to get you out.... but you will need to double up and know how to use it


winches are good...... but a good rope will get you out of most things


i plan to get some more made up. or ask our residant sailor to make some

:thumb2 thanks for that not ready to buy yet and am looking into it

 

[Terranosaurus]

Unless you really really need one they are a just a great big expense. By the time you have finished buying a winch, decent rope for it, a mount and electrcis you'll be well into £500 and probably on you way to £1000.

To date I have never failed to be pull anyone out with a strap.

And I would argue straps over ropes, as straps come duely certfied etc and not just some bit of rope. Spliced ends etc all weaken the rope too - buy straps with proper rating labels on them. Plus straps are a lot easier to store and clean.

Worth noting that if you buy lifting straps they have an inbuilt safety factor of 7:1 so a 2 Tonne lifting strap has a breaking strain of 14T.

Likewise shackles, only buy rated shackles, if they are not rated don't use em, last thing you want is the resulting shrapnel if one were to fail. Lifting shackles have a 5:1 safety factor. Also always use bow shackles not D link/chain shackles - unless you know which to use when etc. You can use a bow in the place of a D but not the other way around.

 

[dino]

Unless you really really need one they are a just a great big expense. By the time you have finished buying a winch, decent rope for it, a mount and electrcis you'll be well into £500 and probably on you way to £1000.

To date I have never failed to be pull anyone out with a strap.

And I would argue straps over ropes, as straps come duely certfied etc and not just some bit of rope. Spliced ends etc all weaken the rope too - buy straps with proper rating labels on them. Plus straps are a lot easier to store and clean.

Worth noting that if you buy lifting straps they have an inbuilt safety factor of 7:1 so a 2 Tonne lifting strap has a breaking strain of 14T.

Likewise shackles, only buy rated shackles, if they are not rated don't use em, last thing you want is the resulting shrapnel if one were to fail. Lifting shackles have a 5:1 safety factor. Also always use bow shackles not D link/chain shackles - unless you know which to use when etc. You can use a bow in the place of a D but not the other way around.

Thank you :thumbs

 

[lacroupade]

Got to agree with Terra - unless you're hardcore its a very heavy expense for something you will only rarely use, if ever. And mounting on the T2 is painful. Trick is not to get stuck in the first place - that takes skill as opposed to blind optimism!!:lol:lol:lol

If I ever invested in a winch it would be a Tirfor - people may take the mickey but it never breaks down, never flattens your battery and you can use it from any angle...watch the russians offroading on Youtube, they get into some truly mental situations then crank themselves out with their trusty hand winches no problem. THATS what you call macho!:bow

 

[makeitfit]

Got to agree with Terra - unless you're hardcore its a very heavy expense for something you will only rarely use, if ever. And mounting on the T2 is painful. Trick is not to get stuck in the first place - that takes skill as opposed to blind optimism!!:lol:lol:lol

Whatever can you mean:augie :lol

 

[lacroupade]

Whatever can you mean:augie :lol

Moi? :augie

 

[ocelot]

I had a Ryder winch on my rangie, in the 5 years I had it, I used it on sites, maybe once a year, a few times helping the general public out of ditches etc but given the insurance nightmares nowadays, I don't think I'd fit one again. Its a dead weight to carry and drains the hell out of your batteries too.....
Insurance companies specificy that winches are for self recovery too which is understandable.
If I were going to get another one, I'd get a portable, hook over ballhitch/fit to strop type of winch and fit a second battery in the back of the car. Split charger unit, (2x diodes and some connector block).

Lot of stuff to carry for that odd occasion tho

 

[bensonsnuts]

The Goodwinch are advertised in all the LR mags and are a decent budget winch .
Winching is great fun , but like others said ,you really have to think how much use you are going to get from it ?
I was fortunate enough to buy one of my previous cars with winch already installed so someone else had born the expense .
It got the most use on pay and play days pulling other people from major stuckies . It will free cars from situations when a tow is not enough !
Properly controlled it is much safer than a snatch or straight pull :thumb2
You need the best kit you can afford if you decide to get one and uprated electrics and a quality mount could cost more than the winch
I'd love another winch but they are an expensive toy :augie
If you just want a more capable vehicle you'd do better to spend the money on tyres and ground clearance :bow

 

[dino]

Thank you all for your comments, and after looking into i find that the expense is a little to high, as said i might only use it once or twice

 

[rustic]

Just found this link about how to select a winch.
http://www.off-road.com/offroad/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=285616

 

[dino]

Just found this link about how to select a winch.
http://www.off-road.com/offroad/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=285616

Thanks :thumb2

 

[makeitfit]

Just a little add on but this weekend Team Wales were on manouvers when our way was blocked by a rather large and inconsiderate tree!
After much chopping and jumping on it it was still in the way!:augie
Ah ha, call in Thunderbird 2, he's got a landingroverer thing but phwoar, what a winch
2 strops and some snatch blocks later the tree was suffering a 3:1 pulley system and a 12000 lb worm drive winch:sly
We had to tie the landy to another tree but with a bit more jumping about the tree was well and truely beaten:clap
Moral: invite someone else who HAS a winch to your off road outings:naughty
Then buy him drinks at beer'o'clock :thumb2

 

[zippy656]

so makeitfit where are all the pics then?