Whats The Bloody Point?

[lacroupade]

I consider myself to be a ordinary bloke.

I've worked hard and made a few bob over the years and my kids have never gone without, although I've had some really bad times as well as good ones.

I'm not racist - I believe we are all born equal, but the way this country is run you have to despair, and I can see how easy it is for people to slip over the line sometimes.

Don't get me wrong, I know we need a degree of immigration just to keep the tax system going in the light of an ageing population, but if the government did a bit more to get some of our feckless youth off their asses and into work, then looked after them a bit better, maybe we wouldn't need so many. And I talk as someone who paid enough tax last year to keep 26 of them in Jobseekers Allowance for a year, so I feel qualified to criticise.

But this is what is close to me and pi55es me off. A month or so ago, the Kurdish idiot who married my dimwit sister a few years ago, then fecked off once he got his passport and carried on working in a tax-free environment (yep, the old kebab shop), has been given a council flat in a nice little area, for him, his passportless non-english speaking imported wife and their snot-nosed brat, born at my expense in an NHS hospital that they then had the gall to criticise because she wasn't given pain relief quickly enough.

Then yesterday my bleeding-heart sister rings me up asking if I've got a car to sell him cheap cos his has failed its MoT and he is "too poor to fix it, what with moving into the flat and all...". I politely said no (thinking "f**k right off!), and this morning she calls to say "Its alright, its sorted..he's been and bought as brand new VW Polo instead".

Whats it all coming to for gods sake???????:doh My head hurts!

 

[DaveAMac]

I hear you, mate. These people that play the system and get away with it just add to the anti-immigrant sentiment and don't do anyone but themselves any favours. They really need to tighten up the system. Good for you denying this guy help - if he can afford a new Polo he's not doing that badly.

I think the current Government needs a good kick in the nether regions.

Dave

 

[tezzer]

i wont go there paul :lol you know how i feel. but did you hear of the english woman with 2 ex husbands and 6 kids who the council could'nt house because they did'nt have a 6 bedroom house, so she found a small mansion type property and they told her to move in and the fu**ing rent is £7000 a month, my daughter had to private rent and the council will only pay £700 a month she has to find the rest herself another £100. and this woman with 6 kids one of her ex's is a solicitor. :doh

 

[paulp]

housing

Hi Tezzer

I work as a housing advisor

what size is the proprty and how many kids and ages

paulp

pm if u prefer

 

[Liam]

Well,I'm at a complete loss. This type of thing has been going on in a lot of countries for a long time. There is no Government solution because the Government do not see it as being a problem. How do you fix a problem that you do not acknowledge as a problem. Governments are happy to let people get up a head of steam over similar issues to these because it gives them a golden opportunity to further oppress the population by introducing tougher ,more restrictive laws to prevent race riots,racism,race attacks,discrimination etc. The more people complain or take the law into their own hands,the more Governments restrict your freedom. I hate to say it but the Government's plan works well in a whole lot of countries. The only way to counter this as I see it, is to demonstrate that harsh laws are unecessary because we all get on so well. And that is going to happen on the 12th of never. It's a vicious circle, the more you protest,the more the Government introduces draconian laws.

 

[sidsid06]

we should get a big boat and ship all the f..ers back along with all the over payed w.nkers who work in the goverment and the bankers with their big bonus....its people who need help get no help!!!! i have no work on at the mo and things are really tight like a ducks ass!!! so rang the benfites agency and they did not want too no!!! they wanted to know how much kit i owned and the vaule of it all and wanted to see my books from the last year and speak to my accountant!! well what the f..k.... in other words sod off mr newman your british!!! still want their tax money tho let me think if i pay them!!!! this country needs a sorting out!!! help are own before others and sack all the bankers!!!

 

[Deleted account DD]

Paul, youre in the position a most of us who work our butts off find ourselves in and theres loads of examples that qualify it;

Youre not well off enough to say wtf then just pay up but your not poor enough to claim a bean. Bang in the middle and get hit for everything.

I do sometimes wonder why I bother but then I have a conscience :thumb2

I dont begrudge affluent folk all their money can buy if theyve worked for it and hit the mother lode with a good business, business idea or pure graft and cleverness. However I do feel pissed off when I see people who view benefits as a way of life and consider foreign holidays , ipods , nintendos and a new car as necessities.

Just wait till I'm pm bring back chain gangs too :thumb2

ok........rant over :naughty

 

[extreme-4x4]

i guess im lucky to be the only British national on the building site im working on

to be fair some do try to fit in and become citizens pay taxes etc

its the scroungers and the ones who dont want to fit in that should be removed from our society

 

[sidsid06]

i could rant on for ever it winds me up!!!!!!! theis goverment ministers with their big pay packets and then expensives on top.what is going on lucky they have a job could do with out at least half of them anyway their a wast of space and wast of tax payers money! pm after me i would sack them all and start gain!!!and i empty the prisons by putting that scum on the front line with just a penknife to protect them selfs. save all the decent chaps and ladies getting blown up for no reson!!!! ive work hard all my life it seems the harder you work the less you get when you need a bit of help!!

 

[lacroupade]

i could rant on for ever it winds me up!!!!!!! theis goverment ministers with their big pay packets and then expensives on top.what is going on lucky they have a job could do with out at least half of them anyway their a wast of space and wast of tax payers money! pm after me i would sack them all and start gain!!!and i empty the prisons by putting that scum on the front line with just a penknife to protect them selfs. save all the decent chaps and ladies getting blown up for no reson!!!! ive work hard all my life it seems the harder you work the less you get when you need a bit of help!!

whats your trade sid if you don't mind me asking?

 

[sidsid06]

landscape gardening.......... its been good for 6 years but last year nealy finished me off!! and so far this year hmmmmmmm not good.. i dont have big buisness but did employe 3 chaps.. had to let them go 2 weeks ago..felt really bad about that!! my next trade will banker!!!so i can f..k things up and still get a bonus!!!!!!!

 

[Deleted account DD]

I agree with extreme,

I dont mind grafters, where I get the anti is my understanding is that benefits are a crutch if you like , to help and support during the bad times, not a lifestyle choice. Its those who treat them as a lifestyle choice I'd be after all guns blazing.

I have no problem at all with immigrants when they contribute. The UK must be one of the most mixed bloodline countries going , all the invaders we've had. They reckon most of us have Italian blood somewhere in us, those in the south French and us in the north Scandinavian.

Lots of other things the racist types overlook is the contribution immigrants and those from the colonies as they were have made to our society, everything from Chicken curry, I think it was tikka masala (London early 1800's) through to the conveniently overlooked fact that only a small percentage of Nelsons crew on Victory where white & "English"

The point of that? contribute like them or the Ghurkas and its a pleasure to have you here, **** about and you should be out of here.

 

[sidsid06]

could not agree more!!!!!!!!:clap and all the waster who play the system and watch day time tv..sod off their the door!

 

[lacroupade]

landscape gardening.......... its been good for 6 years but last year nealy finished me off!! and so far this year hmmmmmmm not good.. i dont have big buisness but did employe 3 chaps.. had to let them go 2 weeks ago..felt really bad about that!! my next trade will banker!!!so i can f..k things up and still get a bonus!!!!!!!

thats a bitch sid. i'm sure things will pick up when summer comes - and if you stay flexible and turn your hand to the odd bit of hard landscaping that you might not normally do, gravelling drives etc.., you'll get through mate. If you already DO that stuff, PM me your number, ss I might have a little job or two later in the year if you don't mind driving to wales! :thumbs

 

[sidsid06]

thats a bitch sid. i'm sure things will pick up when summer comes - and if you stay flexible and turn your hand to the odd bit of hard landscaping that you might not normally do, gravelling drives etc.., you'll get through mate. If you already DO that stuff, PM me your number, ss I might have a little job or two later in the year if you don't mind driving to wales! :thumbs

yes i do all landscaping drives, patios, raised planters ect..... hope it dose pick up.. or i will be living in the caravan!! i dont mind but the bird wont like it. dont mind wales, it the sheep that worrie me

 

[mikep]

Could be a Polo on the Motability scheme !

I work part time for the Office for National Statistics,visiting a wide variety of households carrying out various surveys all of which include asking about the level of state benefits being claimed. We are not allowed to comment or report on any discrepancies discovered as it compromises our impartiallity.
Believe me the abuse of our benefits system is staggering beyond belief.You can be certain that the party funded mini-buses will be working overtime going to the polling stations on General election night.-Draw your own conclusions from that!

I consider myself to be a ordinary bloke.

I've worked hard and made a few bob over the years and my kids have never gone without, although I've had some really bad times as well as good ones.

I'm not racist - I believe we are all born equal, but the way this country is run you have to despair, and I can see how easy it is for people to slip over the line sometimes.

Don't get me wrong, I know we need a degree of immigration just to keep the tax system going in the light of an ageing population, but if the government did a bit more to get some of our feckless youth off their asses and into work, then looked after them a bit better, maybe we wouldn't need so many. And I talk as someone who paid enough tax last year to keep 26 of them in Jobseekers Allowance for a year, so I feel qualified to criticise.

But this is what is close to me and pi55es me off. A month or so ago, the Kurdish idiot who married my dimwit sister a few years ago, then fecked off once he got his passport and carried on working in a tax-free environment (yep, the old kebab shop), has been given a council flat in a nice little area, for him, his passportless non-english speaking imported wife and their snot-nosed brat, born at my expense in an NHS hospital that they then had the gall to criticise because she wasn't given pain relief quickly enough.

Then yesterday my bleeding-heart sister rings me up asking if I've got a car to sell him cheap cos his has failed its MoT and he is "too poor to fix it, what with moving into the flat and all...". I politely said no (thinking "f**k right off!), and this morning she calls to say "Its alright, its sorted..he's been and bought as brand new VW Polo instead".

Whats it all coming to for gods sake???????:doh My head hurts!

 

[sidsid06]

I work part time for the Office for National Statistics,visiting a wide variety of households carrying out various surveys all of which include asking about the level of state benefits being claimed. We are not allowed to comment or report on any discrepancies discovered as it compromises our impartiallity.
Believe me the abuse of our benefits system is staggering beyond belief.You can be certain that the party funded mini-buses will be working overtime going to the polling stations on General election night.-Draw your own conclusions from that!

that be right ship them to the polling stations for their vote! they should get them on thos mini buses and ship them straight back from ware they come from !!! o no we greet them with open arms come on in and start claiming and taking the british blokes jobs!!!

 

[Deleted account DD]

I
Believe me the abuse of our benefits system is staggering beyond belief.

I'm gobsmacked



Only joking, I too used to get to visit all sorts of homes and often enough checking up on info.

I often had to bite my tongue when I realised that many of the so called poorer sections of society who were unemployed as a lifestyle choice had newer cars than me, more channels on the cable or sky ( actually had one bloke tell me he needed sky sports and films because he was at home all day :doh I'm sure if I'd offered him advice re getting up off his arse thered have been shed loads of excuses all begining with "me" or "I cant" ) plus they all seemed to be able to afford to smoke and drink premium lagers.

I must balance that by saying there were also a lot very decent nice people too who found themselves on welfare. They didnt have the above and didnt want to be there.

 

[lacroupade]

I have every sympathy with people who end up on benefit for reasons beyond their control - I've been there in the dim distant past myself.

Its when they cant be arsed to get off it again that I object.

And the simple fact is, anyone in this country who starves on benefit these days is clearly spending it all on :doh aren't they. (Did you like that little smiley word joke there?)

 

[sidsid06]

all on :doh i now what you mean!!! half the buggers on benafit have been on it for years and breed like rats.... so to get more money and bigger house!! i done a job for the local council.. last year in the the best part of cheltenham.. and the local natives.. would go by saying sod that job mate that looks like hard work.. and if you never had your kit tied to you it would be gone as soon as you turn your back!!!!!! why dose the goverment seem to bend over for this s..t. and spend are hard ernt tax money on