wedding venue

[jace]

watching "big fat gypsy wedding" on ch4 and was thinking if you had a largish parcel land or hotel, and seing how these families are strugling to get a venue,if you were gypsy freindly venue youd never be short of buisness and doing gypsys a big favour and your guaranteed buisness so profits!

 

[Paul]

Was thinking the same the other day talking to a mate of ours.

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

watching "big fat gypsy wedding" on ch4 and was thinking if you had a largish parcel land or hotel, and seing how these families are strugling to get a venue,if you were gypsy freindly venue youd never be short of buisness and doing gypsys a big favour and your guaranteed buisness so profits!

I haven't seen it tonight (yet), but remember the vast majority of people on the show weren't Gypsies - it should have been called 'Big Fat Irish Traveller weddings!'

 

[jace]

tonnight was proper romany gypsys,but you could hate gypsys and do it just for dosh,itd help if you got on with them though lol kindve win win situation and im suprised no shrewd dying on its feet venue hasnt grabbed (no pun intended) the idea and made a go of it!

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

tonnight was proper romany gypsys,but you could hate gypsys and do it just for dosh,itd help if you got on with them though lol kindve win win situation and im suprised no shrewd dying on its feet venue hasnt grabbed (no pun intended) the idea and made a go of it!

I'll have to have a watch of that tomorrow then and see it it's for real. :thumb2

 

[jace]

4+1 its on now,plenty of footage from apleby and the trip down in covered wagon,one drawback i could see for the venue would be the planning protests if it got out it was going to cater for gypsy/traveler,if you had to declare such a thing to planning!

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

4+1 its on now,plenty of footage from apleby and the trip down in covered wagon,one drawback i could see for the venue would be the planning protests if it got out it was going to cater for gypsy/traveler,if you had to declare such a thing to planning!

they couldn't ask you to declare he race or ethnicity or your proposed customers, it's just the same as catering for any racial or ethnic group mate :thumb2

I have recorded it I'll watch it tomorrow :thumb2

 

[jace]

maybe a nice piece of woodland,being sold off cheap anytime soon lol!

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

dont see why would have to state intended customers, just not barr anyone based on
personal biggotory.

cant believe anyone would want their daughter on her biggest day of her life to have
to go thru the shit some of the so called publican and licencees put their customer
base thru, wonder if they find out a family are just house dwelling chavs, and plenty
of those about, if they get barred.

kin hell the place is insured, and its not like the men are tea total is it, put plenty
thru the bar tills.

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

dont see why would have to state intended customers, just not barr anyone based on
personal biggotory.

cant believe anyone would want their daughter on her biggest day of her life to have
to go thru the shit some of the so called publican and licencees put their customer
base thru, wonder if they find out a family are just house dwelling chavs, and plenty
of those about, if they get barred.

kin hell the place is insured, and its not like the men are tea total is it, put plenty
thru the bar tills.

and it is breaking the law, at least 3 different laws at that! I haven't watched the show yet but i wonder how many venues have set themselves up for prosecution :augie

 

[jace]

exactly if you made it known you were gypsy/traveler freindly,im sure any dammage would be more than covered,i cant see anymore dammage being caused by travelin folk than normal wedding guests.
the mere fact you are gypsy/traveler freindly and wont snatch the big day away from thems gotta make them more apreciative and want to look after place more.

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

exactly if you made it known you were gypsy/traveler freindly,im sure any dammage would be more than covered,i cant see anymore dammage being caused by travelin folk than normal wedding guests.
the mere fact you are gypsy/traveler freindly and wont snatch the big day away from thems gotta make them more apreciative and want to look after place more.

if you did go to the lengths of 'making it known' would that be just as bad - i.e. advertising the ethnicity of your preferred customers. It would be like a sign on the door saying, 'we prefer white middle class English customers - but you are all welcome.' There is a danger it would become implied racism, it's a difficult situation, but yo are right if your treat people (any people) with respect your chances of getting the same respect back are much higher than when you start with a bad attitude :thumb2

 

[jace]

yes i gues youd have to mke it open to all to keep your venue lisence etc,but advertising ing in traveler press and making it known that being traveler freindly is going to put the venue way up on peoples to moan about list,so even higher behavoiral standards would be apreciated to gain public aproval,maybe little hearts and minds propaganda wouldnt go a miss lol and a sucessfull venue for all concerned.
jobs for local people,extra trade for local buisnesess,bar provided by local publican all very profitable for local area could help change atitudes!

 

[felixthelogchopper]

and it is breaking the law, at least 3 different laws at that! I haven't watched the show yet but i wonder how many venues have set themselves up for prosecution :augie

Any licensed premises can refuse entry without reason :augie

 

[jace]

i have an atitude of next mans moneys the same, no matter what colour or race he is lol!

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

Any licensed premises can refuse entry without reason :augie

If the reason for refusal is implied or direct racism they can't and if someone suspected it was and complained then the venue would have to come up with a reason and it would have to be pretty good - gone are the days when a publican could put a sign on the door saying: "no blacks, no Irish" And I am glad they are gone:thumb2

http://www.crawleyobserver.co.uk/ne...-news-reports/pub_probed_over_racism_1_972118

 

[Deleted account DD]

The landlord does not have to give a reason for refusing entry/to serve/eject a customer. Comes down to the fact its their licence.

Its also the fact the police are obliged to assist them achieve that unless the request is clearly unlawful for any other reason.

It need never go into the racism scenario either by implication or directly.

There must be more to that story on the link.

That appleby landlord last night was incredibly tactful :clap

Whilst the series was well entertaining i think ultimately it took the piss out of those "travellers" involved. It almost became a parody.

Also quite interesting was the irish traveler vs english romany "debate" on the Jeremy Vine show

 

[(RIP) PLANK]

The landlord does not have to give a reason for refusing entry/to serve/eject a customer. Comes down to the fact its their licence.

Its also the fact the police are obliged to assist them achieve that unless the request is clearly unlawful for any other reason.

It need never go into the racism scenario either by implication or directly.
There must be more to that story on the link.

That appleby landlord last night was incredibly tactful :clap

Whilst the series was well entertaining i think ultimately it took the piss out of those "travellers" involved. It almost became a parody.

Also quite interesting was the irish traveler vs english romany "debate" on the Jeremy Vine show

Need not? in many cases it really does need to!

I agree have found the whole series a parody, and yes I witnessed a lot of that heavy handed policing first hand at Appleby last year. Sad but it happens!

But to be honest, I think this thread is in danger of going down the road of so many others - and so soon after the last ones I'm not convinced it is a good idea. What do you think?

didn't hear the Jeremy vine thing, i will look for it on I player :thumb2

 

[extreme-4x4]

can someone please explain to me .

what defines a gypsy

what defines a traveller

i read a lot about race on these threads , but are gypsies a different race , religion or colour .

if gypsies are a different race , surely they must have a native land ? if so where and when ?
if they have a different religion . what or who is there god ? .

just interested thats all

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

can someone please explain to me .

what defines a gypsy

what defines a traveller

i read a lot about race on these threads , but are gypsies a different race , religion or colour .

if gypsies are a different race , surely they must have a native land ? if so where and when ?
if they have a different religion . what or who is there god ? .

just interested thats all

well from my teacher

traveller is usually irish traveller, more likely to be caravan based
in family communities, as per most of shown on documentry.

classicly roman catholic, guess from irish roots.

gypsy, or romany, more likely to have a house and caravan,
and integrate in general community.

the romanys came from india,
many do have links with romania.
are going to be more british than average british if can say
that!