GarryMartin
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I'm looking to acquire a Y61 2003/04/05 Patrol and have noticed that the "descriptions" associated with vehicle condition can be varied, and, ahem, quite personal.
I've attempted to condense and paraphrase a number of examples on the Internet to come up with a guide to condition that I feel I might want to use as a benchmark before travelling sometimes hundreds of miles to look at Patrols in "excellent" condition... ;-)
It's obviously not Patrol specific (and so some of the condition examples and mileage bands may need to change) so I'd welcome feedback, but I'd also be delighted and honoured if anyone thought it useful enough to use in their own pursuits.
Reproduced below for your pleasure...
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Vehicle Condition
How would you describe the condition of your vehicle, and is the “wear and tear” consistent with the mileage it has recorded? The following information should help you and prospective purchasers to get a feel for the condition of your vehicle. After all, descriptions of vehicle condition can be very subjective and personal and so it is important to have easy to follow guidelines based on simple metrics and observations that will help a prospective purchaser to be confident of the condition and value of a vehicle for sale.
Below are three grades associated with used vehicles; Excellent, Good and Fair. You should be able to determine the condition of a vehicle by comparing it to these category definitions:
• Excellent condition means that the vehicle looks like new, is in excellent mechanical condition and needs no reconditioning. This vehicle has never had any paint or body work and is free of rust. The vehicle has a clean history and a current MOT. The engine compartment is clean, with no fluid leaks and is free of any wear or visible defects. The vehicle also has complete and verifiable service records. Less than 5 percent of all used vehicles will fall into this category.
• Good condition means that the vehicle is free of any major defects. This vehicle has a clean history and a current MOT. The paint, body and interior have only minor (if any) blemishes, and there are no major mechanical problems. There should be little or no rust on this vehicle. The tires match and have substantial tread wear left. The vehicle will have at least 80% of their standard services and all major services or key component replacements (e.g. cam belts) completed and recorded. There may be light scuffing or scratches to the outside edge of an alloy wheel but it will not be deformed. Wheel nuts should be rust and damage free. Most consumer owned vehicles fall into this category.
• Fair condition means that the vehicle has some mechanical or cosmetic defects and needs servicing but is still in reasonable running condition. This vehicle has a clean history but may not have a current MOT. The paint, body and/or interior may need minor work performed by a professional. The tires may need to be replaced. There may be scuffing, scratches or bubbling of the alloy wheels but they will not be deformed. Wheel nuts may show some rust. There may be some repairable rust damage on the body.
Beyond the general condition descriptions, it is recognised that mileage will ultimately play a further role in the overall condition of a vehicle.
• Vehicles with mileage of 0 - 30,000 will have hardly any wear.
• Vehicles with mileage of 30,000 - 60,000 can be expected to have some minor scuffs on plastic and very slight creasing or fraying on seat sides and backrests. Bodywork should be in very good condition, with only very minor stone chips or occasional fine scratches on the main panels.
• Vehicles with mileage of 60,000 - 90,000 will have more scuffing and fabric creases or fraying on the seats; indeed, the seats may even have begun to sag slightly. The ceiling of the vehicle and light trim may also be slightly dirty or marked. Some plastics will be a little shiny in high wear places, such as control stalks, gearshift and steering wheel. Pedal rubbers will be showing signs of wear. Load areas may have some scratches. Bodywork should be in good condition, with some stone chips on the front of the vehicle and some minor fine scratches on other panels. There may be the odd very small dent (less than 160mm2).
• Vehicles with mileage of over 90,000 will have very shiny gearshifts, control stalks and steering wheels, and light fabrics will be marked. Some seat squabs and backrests will be creased, sagging and frayed. Pedal rubbers will be significantly worn. Load areas will be scratched. Bodywork may have quite a few stone chips on the front, a few light scratches in other panels (that can be removed by mechanical polishing) and one or two very small ‘dings’ per panel (less than the approximate size of a 20p piece). Importantly, the base paint coat must not have been penetrated and there should be no rust.
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What do you think? Reasonable? Easy to follow? Or am I being an arse? ;-)
Cheers, Garry
I've attempted to condense and paraphrase a number of examples on the Internet to come up with a guide to condition that I feel I might want to use as a benchmark before travelling sometimes hundreds of miles to look at Patrols in "excellent" condition... ;-)
It's obviously not Patrol specific (and so some of the condition examples and mileage bands may need to change) so I'd welcome feedback, but I'd also be delighted and honoured if anyone thought it useful enough to use in their own pursuits.
Reproduced below for your pleasure...
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Vehicle Condition
How would you describe the condition of your vehicle, and is the “wear and tear” consistent with the mileage it has recorded? The following information should help you and prospective purchasers to get a feel for the condition of your vehicle. After all, descriptions of vehicle condition can be very subjective and personal and so it is important to have easy to follow guidelines based on simple metrics and observations that will help a prospective purchaser to be confident of the condition and value of a vehicle for sale.
Below are three grades associated with used vehicles; Excellent, Good and Fair. You should be able to determine the condition of a vehicle by comparing it to these category definitions:
• Excellent condition means that the vehicle looks like new, is in excellent mechanical condition and needs no reconditioning. This vehicle has never had any paint or body work and is free of rust. The vehicle has a clean history and a current MOT. The engine compartment is clean, with no fluid leaks and is free of any wear or visible defects. The vehicle also has complete and verifiable service records. Less than 5 percent of all used vehicles will fall into this category.
• Good condition means that the vehicle is free of any major defects. This vehicle has a clean history and a current MOT. The paint, body and interior have only minor (if any) blemishes, and there are no major mechanical problems. There should be little or no rust on this vehicle. The tires match and have substantial tread wear left. The vehicle will have at least 80% of their standard services and all major services or key component replacements (e.g. cam belts) completed and recorded. There may be light scuffing or scratches to the outside edge of an alloy wheel but it will not be deformed. Wheel nuts should be rust and damage free. Most consumer owned vehicles fall into this category.
• Fair condition means that the vehicle has some mechanical or cosmetic defects and needs servicing but is still in reasonable running condition. This vehicle has a clean history but may not have a current MOT. The paint, body and/or interior may need minor work performed by a professional. The tires may need to be replaced. There may be scuffing, scratches or bubbling of the alloy wheels but they will not be deformed. Wheel nuts may show some rust. There may be some repairable rust damage on the body.
Beyond the general condition descriptions, it is recognised that mileage will ultimately play a further role in the overall condition of a vehicle.
• Vehicles with mileage of 0 - 30,000 will have hardly any wear.
• Vehicles with mileage of 30,000 - 60,000 can be expected to have some minor scuffs on plastic and very slight creasing or fraying on seat sides and backrests. Bodywork should be in very good condition, with only very minor stone chips or occasional fine scratches on the main panels.
• Vehicles with mileage of 60,000 - 90,000 will have more scuffing and fabric creases or fraying on the seats; indeed, the seats may even have begun to sag slightly. The ceiling of the vehicle and light trim may also be slightly dirty or marked. Some plastics will be a little shiny in high wear places, such as control stalks, gearshift and steering wheel. Pedal rubbers will be showing signs of wear. Load areas may have some scratches. Bodywork should be in good condition, with some stone chips on the front of the vehicle and some minor fine scratches on other panels. There may be the odd very small dent (less than 160mm2).
• Vehicles with mileage of over 90,000 will have very shiny gearshifts, control stalks and steering wheels, and light fabrics will be marked. Some seat squabs and backrests will be creased, sagging and frayed. Pedal rubbers will be significantly worn. Load areas will be scratched. Bodywork may have quite a few stone chips on the front, a few light scratches in other panels (that can be removed by mechanical polishing) and one or two very small ‘dings’ per panel (less than the approximate size of a 20p piece). Importantly, the base paint coat must not have been penetrated and there should be no rust.
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What do you think? Reasonable? Easy to follow? Or am I being an arse? ;-)
Cheers, Garry
