Upgraded my broadband today...

[jace]

bt doing fibre optics now,its same price as normal broadband at mo (till evryone jumps on it lol,then bang!)

 

[4x4_Gav]

Ok for those that dont understand connection speeds....

I will say it simply as I am tired lol..

There are 8 bits in a byte which means when calculating your broadband actual download speed you would devide your advertised connection speed by 8..

Example, my 50 meg broadband devided by 8 is 6.25

I get EXACTLY 6.25 MBPS download rate

Simples

I hope you now understand connections, so for those who say your dont actually get 50 Meg, you do, but due to how actual download speeds are calculated you wont actually download at 50 Meg. To download at an actual 50 Meg would mean you needed a 400 Meg connection

Gav

 

[clivvy]

No I believe you.....just tell me what torrents you're downloading you naughty boy :naughty

well...I dont use anything special TBH, but i regularly get silly fast speeds. I use uTorrent client, and generally btJunkie to source my files....:nenau Of course I always try to download from the high seed files.

 

[clivvy]

Ok for those that dont understand connection speeds....

I will say it simply as I am tired lol..

There are 8 bits in a byte which means when calculating your broadband actual download speed you would devide your advertised connection speed by 8..

Example, my 50 meg broadband devided by 8 is 6.25

I get EXACTLY 6.25 MBPS download rate

Simples

I hope you now understand connections, so for those who say your dont actually get 50 Meg, you do, but due to how actual download speeds are calculated you wont actually download at 50 Meg. To download at an actual 50 Meg would mean you needed a 400 Meg connection

Gav

exactly Gav, a 50Mbit connection like you have, is capable of downloading at 6.25 MegaBYTES/s. A 20Mbit will equate to 2.5MB and so on...

 

[zippy656]

here works speeds..

so a bit faster when at home??

 

[clivvy]

yeah thats quick, what is it a leased line or just afast broadband? upload on that is mental, looks like a leased line to me, we have several for our clients and at our main offices...!

 

[zippy656]

somthing like 200 pc's all linked to serviers in Manchester, we are down in Devizes

so a bit quicker than at home

 

[clivvy]

ah right, does sound like a leased line then, cant be 100% sure of course but thats what it looks like!

 

[zippy656]

im sure it is.. we have more than one line i know that much

 

[lacroupade]

exactly Gav, a 50Mbit connection like you have, is capable of downloading at 6.25 MegaBYTES/s. A 20Mbit will equate to 2.5MB and so on...

Well you're both right of course, but its entirely theoretical due to the effects of ISP throttling, server restrictions, general internet latency yadda yadda yadda.

I mean put your hand on your heart and tell me your download speeds don't get seriously whacked from mid-afternoon onwards when the US gets online? Of course they do...bigtime as we all know, so in the real world, even if you do manage to achieve those download rates (which I seriously doubt in most cases unless you're downloading from a fat server with massive pipes and nobody else connected) it won't be for long.

I've spent the last 20 years listening to IT techs telling me what things 'should' be doing while I have to explain to the client why it isn't LOL :bow

 

[clivvy]

Well you're both right of course, but its entirely theoretical due to the effects of ISP throttling, server restrictions, general internet latency yadda yadda yadda.

I mean put your hand on your heart and tell me your download speeds don't get seriously whacked from mid-afternoon onwards when the US gets online? Of course they do...bigtime as we all know, so in the real world, even if you do manage to achieve those download rates (which I seriously doubt in most cases unless you're downloading from a fat server with massive pipes and nobody else connected) it won't be for long.

I've spent the last 20 years listening to IT techs telling me what things 'should' be doing while I have to explain to the client why it isn't LOL :bow

theres no doubt external factors affect broadband speed, thats why ISP's advertise "up to", its a standard disclaimer! I think the point here is someones happy they have a decent connection, so that when thinsg do get a bit congested, they might fare better than someone with a slower speed line...it woudl be wonderful, if we could easily get a low or no contention ratio connection, but generaly thats reserved for business and wouldnt make THAT much of a difference!

 

[4x4_Gav]

theres no doubt external factors affect broadband speed, thats why ISP's advertise "up to", its a standard disclaimer! I think the point here is someones happy they have a decent connection, so that when thinsg do get a bit congested, they might fare better than someone with a slower speed line...it woudl be wonderful, if we could easily get a low or no contention ratio connection, but generaly thats reserved for business and wouldnt make THAT much of a difference!

All technically true, however, just downloaded something now with the same speed as I did at 6am this morning 6.2mbps.

For the most part, Cable customers tend to get hit less than the unfortunate among you that have to have ADSL :lol

When I was speaking to the Virgin engineer when he installed my new modem/router he actually told me that Virgin are going to be GUARANTEEING 100 Meg with their new 100meg service, and not 1 meg under.

This is what makes cable internet soooooooo much better than ADSL, and dont forget, I work for BT :lol :thumbs

 

[clivvy]

All technically true, however, just downloaded something now with the same speed as I did at 6am this morning 6.2mbps.

For the most part, Cable customers tend to get hit less than the unfortunate among you that have to have ADSL :lol

When I was speaking to the Virgin engineer when he installed my new modem/router he actually told me that Virgin are going to be GUARANTEEING 100 Meg with their new 100meg service, and not 1 meg under.

This is what makes cable internet soooooooo much better than ADSL, and dont forget, I work for BT :lol :thumbs

absolutely, cable is excellent, although didnt I hear BT were fitting soem new cables that were much higher capacity and capable of much higher speeds?? I was talking to a BT friend of mine last year about it...?

anyway, it sounds like you really are on a good connection although im not dissapointed with mine to be fair :thumb2

 

[4x4_Gav]

Yeah BT are having to roll out newer cabling to support their BT Infinity Broadband, still not going to get anywhere near the speeds that Virgin offer, not yet anyway

 

[jace]

what ever happend to "fibreway" a fibre optic network laid along canal towpaths?

 

[Deleted account DD]

Interesting debate but lmao , reminds me of debates as a kid, the derailleur gears on my bike means it goes faster than the one with sturmey archer...................so many different things to influence.

I just done that test 5 times within a few minutes and got 5 widely differing results so its clear theres a lot more to it

best below, worst 5.1

 

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Interesting debate but lmao , reminds me of debates as a kid, the derailleur gears on my bike means it goes faster than the one with sturmey archer...................so many different things to influence.

I just done that test 5 times within a few minutes and got 5 widely differing results so its clear theres a lot more to it

best below, worst 5.1

yeah starting with kington on hull being 50 miles from teesside ??

 

[briggie]

 

[lacroupade]

theres no doubt external factors affect broadband speed, thats why ISP's advertise "up to", its a standard disclaimer! I think the point here is someones happy they have a decent connection, so that when thinsg do get a bit congested, they might fare better than someone with a slower speed line...it woudl be wonderful, if we could easily get a low or no contention ratio connection, but generaly thats reserved for business and wouldnt make THAT much of a difference!

:thumbs

The only thing that bugs me about it is the fact that it makes people go out and spend money on superfast BB that they don't need....codded by the ISPs! :doh

 

[clivvy]

:thumbs

The only thing that bugs me about it is the fact that it makes people go out and spend money on superfast BB that they don't need....codded by the ISPs! :doh

yeah, its all business first. ISP's are there to make money, not happy customers lol. imagine though, if they just did what they were supposed to do, and we all got un congested connections for the majority of the time? they'd be struggling for new business thats for sure!